Mortal Mist
Journals => Dream Journals => : Caradon August 09, 2009, 12:28:10 AM
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Well I've decided to start this separate thread for my feeble attempts at WILDing. Mainly to help motivate me to keep working at them. I also believe that staying that focused while falling asleep can help induce DILD's. So it should help me in that way as well.
Today's attempts
I begin to hear the Lolly pop song in my head. Then I do this weird thing, and try not to focus solely on the song, but just kind of hear it off to the side. It works, and I suddenly find myself cutting a pineapple, while only half listening to the song. there was something else too, but I can't remember what it was. I had the song on one side of me while working on the pineapple. Then there was something that formed off to my other side. But just then I slide out of it.
Into my nap
I begin to hear a mans voice talking in what sounds like a foreign language. At first it seems very strange to me that my brain is speaking in this other language that I don't know. But then I realize that I've heard people speaking in other languages enough that it's probably not that strange. Probably the same kind of thing that allows us to hear perfect music in our dreams.
I slide out of that, then enter a scene that I barely remember. All I remember is that there was some bald guy talking to me.
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Today's attempt
Saturday/August/8/2009
I get several very brief work related Lucid HI images.
I then end up entering a scene without Lucidity. I'm in a bedroom with several beds. there are children sleeping on the beds. There is a window on the wall, and outside the window looking in, is a woman. This is not a living woman. She is a ghost. I can hear her speaking. She wants to enter the room. She is saying something about her needing to help the sleeping children in some way. But she cannot enter the room without my permission, and she is trying to get me to allow her to enter.
Didn't get anything in my nap that I remember. But I got a countable DILD for the trying.
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...Mainly to help motivate me to keep working at them...
You're not the only one being motivated by it, just reading your entries makes me want to try harder too!
Can't wait to read more!
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Scary WILD!
I'd take it.
Well It didn't really have a scary feel to it. And I wasn't actually Lucid, so I can't really call it a WILD. But it was an attempt
You're not the only one being motivated by it, just reading your entries makes me want to try harder too!
Can't wait to read more!
Thanks miss-maya. It's nice to know that my experiences are able to help others as well. :)
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Today's attempts
Sunday/August/9/2009
I enter a work scene with partial Lucidity. I'm helping with a delivery. (Something I don't normally do.) As I become more fully Lucid, I literally drop what I'm doing and start to walk away. The dream slips away.
I had a little bit of Lucid HI after my second WBTB, but I don't remember what the images were.
Into my nap
Several times I enter a scene Lucid, where I'm opening a door and about to step through. Each time dream slips away before I make it through the door.
Then I'm falling, and I'm hung by a noose around my neck. Not sure if a I wake up real quick here, but next I'm looking up and can see the rope dangling loose above me.
That's all I remember from that. The hanging part wasn't as scary as it sounds.
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Today's attempts
Monday/August/10/2009
Fist I start to hear somebody whistling. Then I enter a scene without Lucidity. There is a deep canyon with along rope hanging down into it. Up and out of the canyon climbs, Megatron from the transformers. Near the edge of the canyon is Optimus Prime. He is beaten down into the dirt, and Megatron is standing over him. I don't remember thee exact words that were said, but Megatron is giving Prime a lot of crap about trying to save the human race. It was more complicated than that But I can't remember the details of it.
I come out of that one and enter another scene without Lucidity. there is some young girl show off her real life super powers. She can walk through walls, or any object really as if they were not there. I'm watching her do this for a bit, Then I ask, "That's an amazing power you have. Are you sure this isn't a dream?" When I ask the question I become fully Lucid and the dream slips away.
Then I enter another scene with full lucidity. There is a man sitting at an office desk. I'm standing right behind him looking over his shoulder. he opens a drawer on the desk and starts to rummage through the contents. It looks like mostly papers and miscellaneous office supplies. I watch for a moment, then it fades away.
I then enter another scene with full Lucidity. I'm at the park preserve and I see a nice looking girl in a white short sleeve shirt, and dark colored shorts. She is walking a dog down the paved trail. I just watch her walking for a moment before the scene fades away.
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Do you think rubbing your hands together or spinning to stay in the dream would help the dream not to fade away? or is it hard to control?
Have you tried those methods?
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Impressive. I wish I could get as far as you--even hanging ones. Don't forget to include tips, if you can think of what helped you.
I don't really have much for tips. I just lay there trying not to think any words at all, then stuff starts to happen. Sometimes I focus more on listening, sometimes I just watch the blackness for visuals, and sometimes I try to stay aware of how my body feels laying there.
Practicing keeping a silent mind while awake helps too. And the most important thing for me, is to try not to drink too much liquids. Because when I'm laying on my back and I start to get very relaxed, I can actually start to feel my bladder filling, little by little. That drives me nuts and ruins any chance I have at WILDing.
Something weird happened to me; I was making progress and it just stopped dead, and hasn't come back. I keep trying. This is a cool journal idea. If I could, I'd make one too. That makes me realize I haven't even had any HI to post for a long time.
That sucks. Are you still trying it on your back? I know I have to do it that way.
Do you think rubbing your hands together or spinning to stay in the dream would help the dream not to fade away? or is it hard to control?
Have you tried those methods?
Well I've tried spinning after entering a scene before, that didn't work. I just spun out of it. I've been planning to try rubbing hands though. I don't think I've done that in a WILD yet. A lot of times when I enter a scene Lucid, It's so fragile that as soon as I try to move it slips away. Other times moving seems to help keep me in it longer. There is a little focusing trick I've been working with that I've had some success with. But I have not really tried it in these most recent ones. A lot of it has to do with how relaxed I am when I enter it too. Because even a very slight sudden surprise of being lucid can ruin it for me. Just after these last few days of working harder at it, it has started getting easier to enter scenes. So hopefully I will start to get some that are a little bit longer.
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Today's attempts
Tuesday/August/11/2009
I lay there for a while getting a lot of audio. A lot of different voices saying short random sentences. Then I see this girl sitting on a beach drinking out of a bottle of whiskey. Then I start to hear a group of people singing the happy birthday song. After that I started getting really uncomfortable laying on my back so I gave it up.
Into my nap
I hear a random voice say."Getting ready to punch the Jedi." Then I end up in this weird scene. I think I had a little bit of Lucidity because at one point I remember looking around and being amazed about where I was. I was a little boy of a different race. (Can't say of which one exactly.) I was sitting on the steps of some temple. I lived at this temple, and I was in some kind of training. Some girl comes walking down the steps and sits next to me.(Supposedly my sister.) She is talking to me, but I can't remember what she had said. I wish that could because what ever was said was meaningful to me at the time. Then I start to become more fully Lucid and I'm very startled by the whole situation. And it jolts me awake.
Next, as I lay there, I start to feel that inner expansion that I sometimes get. Within the inner depths, there is a certain point that I can feel. (Not sure of any other way to describe it.) This point starts to form into the shape of a person. And as I watch this shape forming, I begin to fall through darkness. I feel like this person is with me as I fall. Then we are swinging across some wide canyon on a rope. The scene shifts and I'm now falling with an elevator. I'm on the roof outside of the elevator, and falling down the shaft. Then I begin to very clearly hear emergency vehicle sirens. As if they are already on their way to the falling elevator accident. The visual starts to fade, but the sirens continue for a while. I lay there listening to them until I come fully out of it.
After that there was a lot more that I can't remember well enough to describe. I lay there for about an hour entering several different scenes, mostly without Lucidity. And each little dream had some freaky horror movie theme to it. All from different horror movies that I've seen.
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See right there is a tip--I usually try to repeat a phrase, or count, or something. I'll try not to.
Sometimes that can work, but for me it's best not to think any words at all. Then it's like your brain can't stand it, and starts making stuff on it's own. :chuckle:
Lol, that's some impressive body awareness.
It can be very annoying.
I never have been able to do it on my back. It's so uncomfortable, I don't know why; I always want to go on my side.
That's one of my biggest obstacles too. It's hard to resist the urge to turn over. Sometimes I can't resist for long.
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Today's attempts
Wednesday/August/12/2009
Today wasn't the best day. Last night I was having a hard time clearing my head, So I did a little VILDing. I started visualizing myself drawing on a wall. Almost instantly I'm pulled into the scene, I'm standing in a room drawing lines on a wall. My Lucidity is partial as I notice my brother enter the room behind me. For some reason I don't want him to see what I'm doing.
Into my nap
Well, there wasn't really a nap. I came home pretty pissed off. I've been having to deal with a lot of bullshit people problems lately.
I lay there on my back for probably more than a half an hour. I realize that WILDing at this time is not likely. So I just roll over and try to fall asleep. Still, it's a long time before I can get relaxed at all. I actually manage to slip into this little dream Lucid, where I'm flying over some city scape. I land on the street then wake up.
After that I start to actually fall asleep for real, then my dog starts making noise causing me to wake up. After that any possibility of sleeping was all over with.
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...I can actually start to feel my bladder filling, little by little. That drives me nuts and ruins any chance I have at WILDing.
Blah bladderr! i get that too! yes, lots of liquids in the morning and less liquids at night. People usually feeling more thirsty at night because their body is tired.
Well I've tried spinning after entering a scene before, that didn't work. I just spun out of it. I've been planning to try rubbing hands though...
oops i made a mistake, i forgot that spinning (done as soon as you sense you are about to wake up) is meant to keep you from waking up.
Rubbing hands is meant for keeping you in the scene.. heheh, pardon my n00bness. i've used spinning for teleportation once, but its hard to control the destination.
That focusing trick of yours sounds like it would work the best, as it does not involve movement. ;)
See right there is a tip--I usually try to repeat a phrase, or count, or something...
I've found that listening to my heartbeat (which is difficult to hear) for as long as i can, usually quietens my thoughts. If my thoughts are persistant, i begin to concentrate on trying to slow down my heartbeat.
lol, i think your thread has turned into a workshop Caradon.. :D
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Lol, good description. My brain can only take a nanosecond of it! So it shouldn't take me long! :uhm:
Yeah, If you keep completely silent it usually doesn't take long.
Sounds like it! I thought I was dealing with some annoying things, but being aware of your ureters tops them all! That's one body part I can stand to do without know about. Usually you only find out about them if you have a kidney stone. (Hey, how's your back doing, anyway? It must be better, that's good.)
I know someone who recently had an operation for kidney stones. They said that not drinking enough water causes it. If That's true, that's something I should never have to worry about.
Well after my spring cabin trip I went back to sleeping in my bed, and my back has not acted up. But since I started seriously trying to WILD again, I did start to get the nerve pinching in my leg again. But just slightly. So I started sleeping on the floor again right away, with a bunch of pillows strategically arranged for support. That seems to be taking care of it, we'll see how it goes in the next couple of weeks.
Blah bladderr! i get that too! yes, lots of liquids in the morning and less liquids at night. People usually feeling more thirsty at night because their body is tired.
I was going to mention that I always get extra thirsty in the evening. And that it's hard to keep away form the delicious ice cold spring water in my refrigerator. I was wondering why that happens.
oops i made a mistake, i forgot that spinning (done as soon as you sense you are about to wake up) is meant to keep you from waking up.
Rubbing hands is meant for keeping you in the scene.. heheh, pardon my n00bness. i've used spinning for teleportation once, but its hard to control the destination.
That focusing trick of yours sounds like it would work the best, as it does not involve movement. ;)
I've played with spinning some during normal Lucid Dreams. I've hardly ever noticed it doing much of anything. Except for one time I was able to make the sun rise little by little, by spinning repeatedly. That one is in the Dream Gallery at DV. I'll have to go back to playing with that. I'm going to try rubbing hands in a WILD, next time I'm in it long enough to remember to do it.
I've found that listening to my heartbeat (which is difficult to hear) for as long as i can, usually quietens my thoughts. If my thoughts are persistant, i begin to concentrate on trying to slow down my heartbeat.
lol, i think your thread has turned into a workshop Caradon.. :D
If you use earplugs you can hear your heart beating a lot easier.
I use to do relaxation exercises where I focused on relaxing each part of my body until I could feel my heart beating in that spot.
Well, lets hope this thread helps us all out. :) I know it helps me just because of wanting to have something to post in it. In the past when I Practiced WILDing every night, continuously. I did start to progress. Last year I think there was two WILDs' that I officially counted as true Lucid Dreams. It does already feel like it's getting easier, hopefully I can keep it up.
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Today's attempts
Thursday/August/13/2009
Well last night I didn't really bother trying to WILD because just getting to sleep was challenge enough. But I did get one brief Lucid HI moment when I had someone walk right up to me and look me in the face.
Into my nap
Nap time was a little better. Even though I was having some difficult keeping my thoughts silent. I hear a voice speak a random sentence.( Can't remember the exact wording now, wish I would have wrote it down because it was weird.) Something like "The government spent one hundred something thousand dollars( exact number) on therapy testing. The exact wording sounded stranger than that, made less sense.
I enter a little dream about an ex girlfriend of mine being a DV member and I never knew it. I did have partial Lucidity in this dream. And at the time it was happening I thought that I was getting some real life information from my mind. I'll have to look through the DV member list and see if there is any names similar to what I learned hers was.
After that I briefly enter a scene fully Lucid, where I'm watching my dog run around the house.
After that I got sick of laying on my back, rolled over and fell asleep.
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Yea that can do it. I hope you or me both never has to worry about that; it's one of the most painful things there is.
Well lets make sure we are always drinking enough water, because that doesn't sound too good. Pretty much all I drink is water so that's good.
Got to stay away from the tap water with fluoride too. I've recently learned that fluoride is a poison that is put into our water supply, that causes all sorts of health problems. The worst of which is damage to pineal gland in the brain.( very bad for us people who are into dreaming.) I suspect this plays a role in why we have to work so hard to remember our dreams as we get older. When I was younger I always remembered my dreams without having to work at it at all. It's also in a lot of food since the food is made with contaminated water. I'm going to buy a fluoride water filter, and test kit. I know there is less fluoride in the spring water I drink, but it's still in it. So I'm going to order one of those pitcher type filters. One designed for filtering out fluoride, and run my spring water through it.
I've tried to use listening to the heart as a focus not to think. Mine always beats too fast however, and I end up counting too fast and it doesn't seem relaxing.
Probably better to use your breathing then. Taking deep slow breaths and trying to relax more with each exhalation.
Yes it is a workshop, Car. Thanks for doing it; I know it's extra effort to describe every incident, but it is very helpful.
So far it's been fun to record them, and it should be interesting to go back a read some of the weird experiences over time.
It's not really too much work so far seeing how they are so short lol. Hopefully that will be improved on.
One thing I was wondering was when you most often try to WILD; like after how many hours of sleep? Are you still having some crazy work hours where you don't get enough sleep some nights? Do you think that helps the next night?
Well I'm trying to WILD every time I go to sleep. regardless of what time it is. I have a much harder time after WBTB's I always fall asleep before I get much. Other than getting up for the bathroom, I don't do WBTB's unless it's a night for me to sleep in. And then only short ones. I will probably have more success with staying in WILD's longer when I get better at doing them in the morning.
Yeah my sleep schedule still kind of sucks. I didn't sleep at all last night. Sometimes it's easier to get into HI when I'm tired. But a lot of times I just fall asleep before I can get anything. Like at nap time today.
I accidentally erased one of your comments. :? I didn't want to start over, that's why there is no reply to it.
Ooh, thunder just shook the house. Quickly unplugging the computer.
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Today's Attempts
Friday/August/14/2009
Well last night other than a little bit of Lucid HI I didn't sleep at all.
I had kind of an odd moment. I lay there and I get this weird perspective of looking up at the over hanging roof of some house. It was strange because it was like I was upside down outside the front of the house looking up at the edge of the roof. It takes me a moment before I realize I'm actually there looking at this house, and not just imagining it. It doesn't fade away right away. I'm able to think about how odd the scene is while viewing it.
Next I enter a work scene fully Lucid. It's very brief because of me being startled out of it by the sudden entrance to the scene.
Next, as I lay there trying to relax I start to see an odd blob shape that's darker than the rest of the darkness behind my closed eye lids. The blob shape forms into the image of an eyeball. Then another smaller eyeball forms in the center of the eye. I laugh to myself about how strange it is before it fades away.
I didn't really get much in my nap that I can remember. I vaguely remember some voices before passing out completely. I then slept about two and a half hours.
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Oh the fluoride thing...http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2692/is-fluoride-in-water-a-good-thing-or-a-danger (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2692/is-fluoride-in-water-a-good-thing-or-a-danger)
Well, what ever the case may be. Since I have no way of knowing for sure what the stuff is doing to me, I will avoid it as much as possible.
The last thing I need is some unwanted chemicals messing up my dreaming. I would rather have all my teeth fall out than let that happen. After all, teeth can be artificially replaced. I'm sure the pineal gland couldn't be repaired so easily.
You're right that melatonin levels are different as we age (produced by pineal gland.) I take 3-5 mg of melatonin every night before bed.
I think, I still have better than average recall most of the time. But I have to have my thoughts always on my dreams to keep it that way. When I get distracted even a little bit, recall starts to slip. I saw some of that melatonin at the store the last time I was getting vitamins, and was considering trying it. I think I may pick some up and see what it does for me.
Oh OK, even if it doesn't have a high likliehood of working, it probably gets you in the habit. I sort of do that, but it's so hard when you fall asleep so quickly. And usually if I'm not falling asleep, there's a reason, one that will also keep me from WILDing. (Restless, hot, toe hurts, something like that.)
Yeah, So far I actually have had the most success when I'm first falling asleep. Last night I had some success early in the morning though.
And it does seem to help when I'm trying it every time.
Oh OK; but sometimes I think our sleep schedule is helping you.
Hmm, maybe sometimes yes, and sometimes no. I should really be getting some rebound tonight. But I'm not really expecting to get Lucid.
My awareness work has really been off. Even though I've still been trying, I'm not having the best couple of weeks. I hope the rebound really kicks in, otherwise I may have some stress killed recall. I'm planning to really try to WILD all night too.
I think, if it wasn't for needing to take care of my dog, I would sleep more right when I come home from work. Getting up in the middle of the night, and staying up until morning.
What?! Erased one of my important comments! ;)
Yes, your comments are always important. :)
You sure do have a variety of images that appear in your HI.
Yeah, that's part of what makes it so fun. I never know what's going to happen.
But I keep getting too much crappy work stuff right now too.
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Today's attempts
Saturday/August/15/2009
Last night I had one of those nights where laying on my back was so uncomfortable that I couldn't stand it. I tried to force myself to lay that way for as long as I could, but eventually had to roll over.
But before I did, I end up in work scenes Lucid a few times.
One time as I lay there waiting for something to happen, I randomly reach up and pinch my nose, and I can breath.
Twice a weird thing happened that was sort of like the jerk thing, but without the Jerk. Very suddenly it was like my inner space expanded and I started fall or get sucked away are something. But, both times I was just as suddenly awake and laying there like normal. It happened so quickly that it was startling.
I had a near success in the morning after my alarm went off. I pushed snooze, then lay on my back trying to WILD. I enter a weird scene Lucid, where I'm laying on the floor beneath a kitchen table. The table has lots of food on it. I'm laying on my back looking up at the edge of the table. all the food begins to fall off the edge and towards my face. This doesn't scare me because I know it's a dream. I watch with humor as the food rushes down at me. Then the scene shifts and I lose Lucidity. I'm at work and I'm about to tell somebody about this weird WILD attempt. But Then I remember my intention to never again, share anything at all, with any of these people. So I keep it to myself. I think I wake up at that point.
Into my nap
As I lay there I start to get a sense of movement in my vision, as if many different people are moving towards me and past me. But I can barely get a glimpse of them as they do. (I'm putting this part in black, because I can't remember it well enough to remember how Lucid I was. But I'm pretty sure I was at least semi Lucid.)
I now see a man standing in front of me. I remember that he was wearing a black shirt. He begins talking to me, but I can't remember what he was saying. But I think it was about Lucid Dreaming. The man wants to show me something, and he actually changes the scene. We are in a completely different place now and there is a screen, like a computer screen. The man points at the screen and is explaining something that is on it. As this is happening I slide out of it.
After that I couldn't fall back to sleep, or get anymore HI. My mind kept wandering so I finally just got up without getting a nap in.
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I think fluoride is most important for kids. If you have it in your toothpaste, you are getting a little, but not too much. I drink well water so I don't have fluoride in my water; I just use fluoride toothpaste and don't worry about the tiny amount.
I did get some Tom's all natural toothpaste, that has no fluoride in it. But I have very sensitive teeth, and need to use the sensodyne stuff. So I probably won't be able to use Tom's that often. Maybe every other day or something.
I did read that fluoride is a natural chemical, and can be in well water too. But It's probably not very much.
Oh OK, mu said he had his SP then too. I thought it was hopeless to try then, but I'll try harder.
No not hopeless. Almost everything in this thread has been done while first falling asleep. It's all very short, but at least it's something.
That's annoying; or when images are scary stuff. Like something is trying to scare you.
So far I have not gotten any of the freaky things some people describe coming after them when they WILD. I'm not really afraid of anything like that happening. Maybe that's part of why I have not experienced it. But, I have often seen people that I know who are dead.
That's weird. A couple weeks ago in a WILD, I find myself standing on a beach fully Lucid. I see a guy I used to work with walking towards me. Sadly the guy is dead in real life. He was a very good person, and was only in his mid twenties when he died of a heart attack.
Because of his drug problem.
I took some Melatonin before my nap today, I describe it in my next post. So far it seems like a good thing. Is that stuff supposed to make you feel weird before you fall asleep? Because I was feeling kind of good.
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Today's attempts
Sunday/August/16/2009
Well, sleep deprivation did nothing at all for me last night, other than make me sleep like a log. I lay on my back intending to at least get something. Next thing I know, I wake up four hours later on my side with zero recall. I had no memory of even turning over.
I wake up and do a fifteen minute WBTB. Then try again. I get relaxed and can feel my body falling asleep. I went completely numb, I then tried really hard to stay aware of my awareness, and not lose consciousness. I may have actually been sleeping at that time, it's hard to say. But that's the last thing I remember. I had hardly any recall either, until the last couple of hours of sleeping. Then had some pretty interesting dreams. a lot of end of the world kind of stuff, and some zombie action too.
Into my nap
I had much more success WILDing into my nap today, and a lot more dream recall too. I tried some Melatonin for the first time. I took one tablet-3 mg, about a half hour before I was planning to go to sleep. Like the bottle says to do. I don't know if the stuff is supposed to make you feel sleepy or not. But after half an hour I started feeling very sleepy, and relaxed. But I was unsure if that was because I had just eaten too. But as I lay there on my back I was starting to feel really good lol. So it must have been more than the food.
And I had a very easy time WILDing too. As soon as I kept my mind completely silent. I would start to get stuff almost immediately. There was so much that I can only remember some of it.
First, I find myself opening a door and stepping through. But I wake as I step through.
Then, I open a door and step through again. This time I'm in a hall. My Lucidity is partial as I reach up and take my sweat shirt down from a hook on the wall. I'm about to go through another door, that I know leads outside. But then slide awake.
After that there was a lot of very brief HI images. I can't remember them all.
I remember one time looking at someones tattooed arm, that was held up to my field of vision.
Then there was a guy with a shaved head, and wearing plastic safety glasses. He kept turning his head from side to side, but his eyes stayed locked on mine as he did it.
Next I'm looking at a computer screen. I can see the cursor on the little page down bar on the right side of the screen. I watch as the cursor pulls the bar down the side of the screen. I'm expecting to slide out of it right away, but I don't. I continue to watch it, and with each moment I'm more surprised that it's not fading away. Then I remember my goal to try rubbing my hands together to stay in the WILD. So I try that. But as soon as I start to bring my hands together, I slide out of it before they even touch.
Right away I enter another scene. I can't even remember what this one was. I just remember trying to rub my hands together again. Same thing happens. I slide out of it before my hands touch.
I think there was more but that's all I remember right now. After about an hour of sleeping I started having some very vivid recall, and I was sleeping really good. I didn't even want to wake up. It may not be a good idea to take the Melatonin on the nights when I know I'm only going to get like two or three hours of sleep before work. I will try it again tonight.
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Today's attempt
Monday/August/17/2009
Well, for the first night after starting this journal, I don't really have anything good to post. I fell asleep before getting any kind of HI, that I remember anyway. But I did two WBTB's, and tried to WILD after them. Both times I directly entered dreams from waking, but without Lucidity. I think I may be getting closer with WILDing at that time. I've decided not to take a nap today, because I don't want to be up all night. Otherwise I probably would have something to record.
I did have a very great night of dreaming, and came very close to having DILD's two times. So I'm far from discouraged. I just need to start getting more focused on trying to induce DILD's's again too. The last two weeks were not very good for that.
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Hey Caradon, this is a very interesting journal! (Thanks for bringing it to my attention MB.)
I've got to read in more detail later on, but do you generally try to WILD using SP? Some of your descriptions sound very much like what works for me.
:goodjob:, not worrying about freaky WILD things. I love that stuff when it happens. I also often see people I know are dead in these dreams..
Something weird.. I think WILDing using SP bears some similarities to what people report in near-death experiences--the floating up, tunnels, lights, dead people, even god-like beings.. Maybe it is a similar process in the brain (at least initially?)
That eyeball was very cool.
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I don't see why it couldn't work then too. I know we're not supposed to have dreams then, but everybody does sometimes.
I seem to do everything in an unorthodox way. I think most of the time I get some little bit of dreaming before I fall completely to sleep.
Oh that's weird; my HI is all just random weird stuff, never people I know. Maybe it's cuz you get further than I do.
Mines pretty random the majority of the time too.
Hmm, I never noticed anything. It is supposed to suppress REM to allow deep sleep for a while, which then causes REM rebound to help dreams.
Well, it definitly seems to make me feel a little bit different.
Monday night I had a ton of vivid dreams right away. Then recall got lesser as the night went on. I could have possibly been still getting some rebound from the lack of sleep I had on the weekend too. But I thought I had slept enough Sunday night.
Hopefully the increased WILDing will automatically always help with DILD's.
I'm hoping that too.
Hey Caradon, this is a very interesting journal!
Thank you.
I've got to read in more detail later on, but do you generally try to WILD using SP? Some of your descriptions sound very much like what works for me.
Actually I'm not really sure about the whole SP thing. Most of the time I just start seeing and hearing stuff, and entering dreams. Once in a while I get the numb sensation. Or spinning, or floating, or expanding. Other than that I don't really know. I've never felt paralyzed.
:goodjob:, not worrying about freaky WILD things. I love that stuff when it happens. I also often see people I know are dead in these dreams..
Lol, yeah. Some of us weird people love the scary stuff. And others go to doctors to try and get scary dreams to stop.
Actually, I think the people that are so afraid of their dreams that they have to see a doctor about it, are the weird ones.
Something weird.. I think WILDing using SP bears some similarities to what people report in near-death experiences--the floating up, tunnels, lights, dead people, even god-like beings.. Maybe it is a similar process in the brain (at least initially?)
you could be right. I've also seen the white light people describe during near death experiences a few times. It's been a while since that's happened though. Maybe if I think about wanting to see it, I'll see it again. It's an amazing thing.
That eyeball was very cool.
That was pretty weird.
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Today's attempts
Tuesday/August/18/2009
As I lay there on my back, I start to think about picking up a bag of chips on my way home from work the upcoming day. Because I have a jar of salsa in the refrigerator that I should use up. This thought, leads to a weird chain of thoughts about other Mexican foods. And eventually leads me to a memory of when I was a kid and went on a trip to Mexico. On the real life trip, we went to some place that was making fresh tortillas. And I was remembering how good they were.
This thought becomes a dream, and I'm now back in Mexico. I'm at some outdoor food market with a fresh tortilla in my hand. There is a food line, like a buffet, with pans of different things that you can put onto your tortilla. I start to scoop something out of one of the pans with a ladle, when I remember that I'm dreaming. And wake up right away.
Now, I try to concentrate harder on not thinking anything. And I soon enter a scene Lucid, where I'm watching this guy walking alongside some crop field. I don't know what the crop is. Just a bunch of tall green plants. The man is walking along with a open book in his hand, and he is reading as he is walking. I watch him walking and reading until it fades away.
After that I decide to give it up, because I ended up staying up too late watching a movie, and I didn't have much time. I figured I would try more in my nap.
I came home from work and took some Melatonin, but then ended up having to stay awake much longer than I should have. Because tornado sirens started going off, and I turned on the TV to see what was going on. It turns out that a tornado had touched down a few miles south of my house, and the storm that produced it was heading towards my neighborhood. The TV says that everyone in my area should be taking shelter, because more tornadoes are possible. So I ended up staying up until the threat was over.
When I finally lay down for my nap, I didn't get any WILD stuff. I just fell asleep. But I did have some vivid dreams. Unfortunately no tornadoes in my dreams though.
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That was a cool one. That's always the point I wake up too--the instant I realize what's going on!
Yeah, it usually always happens to me too when I gain Lucidity after entering the scene. Just the sudden surprise, regardless of how slight, is enough to knock you out of it.
Wow. Note to self: remember not to think anything!
Yeah, that's the difficult part. Trying to see how long you can do it during the day is good practice for when you lay down. Sometimes it helps make it a little easier.
Oh I thought you were going to have a tornado dream for sure.
Me too. Especially with the scary show I watched about tornadoes on Discovery Just a week ago. That show really freaked me out for some reason. Well, they were talking about finding peoples bodies shredded and torn to pieces. And something about the show really made it hit home to me, on how little protection a house really is. Makes me want to invest in having a storm shelter installed.
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Today's attempts
Wednesday/August/19/2009
I had some difficulty last night because I felt like I was wide awake when I went to go to sleep. So it took me a while.
I remember getting a weird image of viewing myself laying in a bed with some woman.
I actually turn over after a while and just try to get to sleep, but still trying to WILD on my side. Three times I briefly enter the same scene Lucid where I'm standing in my living room looking around for a moment before it fades.
Then I fall asleep, and the first dream that I remembered I got Lucid in.( Posted in my Lucid Dream journal.) While not a real exciting one to read, it was a good one for me being there . I woke up real excited about it, and wide awake. I was unsure if I would be able to fall asleep again. After about fifteen minutes of being up, I try to get back to sleep.
I lay down just repeating "this is a dream," over and over really fast. I was really just trying t make myself fall asleep. I feel this sudden expansion,a nd I find myself in a dream Lucid. I don't remember much about the scene. I was sitting down and looking at a water bottle I had in my hand. There was something weird about the spout that you drink out of. For a moment I Actually thought that I had this one. I thought I entered a full blown dream. But then I slide out of it.
I had stuff on my mind when I got home, and could not get anything in my nap. It took me a while just to fall asleep, even with how tired I was.
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Today's attempts
Thursday/August/20/2009
Not much to report today. I had a restless mind last night. It's a miracle I managed to relax enough to get anything at all.
I start to hear a voice, I can't remember exactly what was said. I try to talk to it. But every time I try to speak, the voice speaks, and interrupts me
Then I enter a work scene Lucid. I'm in the middle of some project, And it fades away momentarily.
Into my nap
I start to hear a song being sung. " It's the end of the world and I know it. I feel fine."
After that I just fell asleep laying on my back. I was really tired I guess.
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More post-apocalyptic thoughts. It must be near. O_O
Maybe.
I just wish I could know for sure, so that I could quit my job and enjoy life for a little while.
I'll be pissed if the end really does come in 2012, and I find out I've been wasting my time getting up and going to work every day, for nothing.
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Today's attempts
Friday/August/21/2009
Last night I lay there for quite a while with my thoughts completely clear. I wasn't getting much of anything for some reason. But actually, it felt so good to just lay there in the dark, with such a quite mind, that I was content to just have that moment of peace.
Eventually I do hear a voice in my head say, "The president of the United States."
Then I hear what sounds like the footsteps of somebody walking with sandals on. That slapping against the bottom of the foot sound.
Then a work scene fades in, that's almost identical to the night before.
Into my nap
I wanted to try and get something more in my nap, but I just got this cool little non Lucid, pre sleep dream.
I'm driving a red race car on a track. I'm racing against I guy in a blue car. I push some kind of turbo button, and I go so fast that everything becomes a blur. I get an entire lap ahead of the blue guy. I did it so fast that he is not even aware that he had been lapped.
After that I fall asleep.
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He was wearing flip-flops.
Yes, that's it.
You have the coolest little HI's. :)
Thanks. I was glad that I remembered that one so well. A lot of times I come out of those early non Lucid ones with just a glimmer of what had happened.
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Yesterday
Saturday/August/22/2009
Into my nap
I start out by entering a work scene with partial Lucidity. I'm just working on something for a little bit. Then I walk to another area. As I become more fully Lucid I slide out of it.
I fall asleep for about an hour, maybe less. Then get woken up. I'm up for a couple of minutes. I lay down on my side just trying to fall asleep, and get a good dream. I start repeating this is a dream.
I enter a work scene fully Lucid, still repeating this is a dream. There is much going on around me, lots of people. I don't remember what I was doing exactly. I was carrying something. And all the people were in my way. I just kind of go with the flow of it, repeating this is a dream. I try to simultaneously ignore everything that's going on around me, while staying aware of everything as well. (Much like I do in real life.) I hear one person saying to another, that they should get out of my way. Yet I still kind of ignore them, focusing on one thought alone. This is a dream, this is a dream. While I try to work my way between the people. The way that I have my thoughts focused is working to hold me in the dream, I can actually begin to feel the dream becoming more solid around me. Then I start to get excited that it's working, and it startles me awake.
This is the third time that this certain type of staying aware of everything at once has helped to keep me in the dream. It's also what I had a DC tell me I should do. But I seem to have to enter the right type of scene in order to do it. A lot of times I can't help but just stare at a particular image, or scene that appears, until it fades away.
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Oo, you got pretty far with that one!
Yeah, one of these days... Lol.
I try that a lot, repeating 'this is a dream" to myself.
Yeah, that can work sometimes. I've been liking to do that when I'm having difficulty quieting my thoughts lately. Or after WBTB's.
I usually have trouble keeping my thoughts still after WBTB's. Plus, at that time, there is a greater chance of entering a full blown dream. And bringing that thought in with you could sure help.
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Todays attempts
Sunday/August/23/2009
well there was a lot of little stuff, can't remember everything.
There was one at the beginning of the night where it was like I was looking through someone else's eyes. The person was in a garden picking what looked like tomatoes off a green plant. I could see my arms reaching out and picking them, but I was not controlling the arms.
Early in the morning I remember twice finding myself Lucid in a hallway looking at a door that was partially open. The second time it happened, before the scene fades, a man opens the door from the inside and steps out. I watch him walk away from me down the hall. As I watch him walking, I try to think of a way to hold myself in the scene. But it still fades.
There were a couple of other non Lucid dream entries. In one I noticed something weird and almost became Lucid in it.
Into my nap
I lay there not really caring if I fall asleep. I was just trying to see what I could get for WILDing.
This is weird to describe. I start to get that expanding kind of feeling a little bit. And the feeling of laying there creates this image of a kind of dark square shape in my vision.
Around this square shape I am able to purposely create a silver ring. I make the silver ring spin, circling the black shape. It now feels as if I'm in the center of the black shape, and the ring is spinning around me. But it's just a feeling, because I can see it in front of me. I stop focusing on the spinning, and I start sliding out of it. so I make the ring spin again. I make it spin really fast, and I can feel myself getting pulled deeper into sleep. then I'm suddenly standing on a trail at the park preserve, and I'm seeing these wide tan spinning disks flying down the trail away from me.
After that I appear several more times at the park preserve. And each time some kid on a skate board just about runs right into me.
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Well, no WILDing last night that I remember. But I nearly became Lucid twice during the same dream in my nap today. So hopefully Lucids will start picking up soon. That was a really fun dream anyway. It seems like mountains are becoming a dreamsign for me.
I've been a lot more motivated since last weeks Lucid.
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Today's attempt
Tuesday/August/25/2009
Was having difficulty clearing my thoughts properly last night, and in my nap.
I just managed a brief Lucid image of a snake biting someone in the face.
Then I had the most fun dirt biking dream ever.
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Lol, yeah. Some of us weird people love the scary stuff. And others go to doctors to try and get scary dreams to stop.
Actually, I think the people that are so afraid of their dreams that they have to see a doctor about it, are the weird ones.
Right on! Here's hoping our dreams scare the crap out of us!
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You have really amazing recall of the whole process leading up to everything, what your mind's doing.. And it seems to work almost all the time.
This is the third time that this certain type of staying aware of everything at once has helped to keep me in the dream. It's also what I had a DC tell me I should do. But I seem to have to enter the right type of scene in order to do it. A lot of times I can't help but just stare at a particular image, or scene that appears, until it fades away.
This is what I seem to find myself doing a lot lately. It's hard to describe, isn't it? It's like awareness, but also ignoring. It really works though, it's pretty amazing. And it seems to get easier. Last time it happened I was very close to waking up the whole time, but it seemed like I could keep going indefinitely.
This is weird to describe. I start to get that expanding kind of feeling a little bit. And the feeling of laying there creates this image of a kind of dark square shape in my vision.
Around this square shape I am able to purposely create a silver ring. I make the silver ring spin, circling the black shape. It now feels as if I'm in the center of the black shape, and the ring is spinning around me. But it's just a feeling, because I can see it in front of me. I stop focusing on the spinning, and I start sliding out of it. so I make the ring spin again. I make it spin really fast, and I can feel myself getting pulled deeper into sleep. then I'm suddenly standing on a trail at the park preserve, and I'm seeing these wide tan spinning disks flying down the trail away from me.
That's so cool, how the disks still appeared in the dream proper. You must have great concentration to pull that off! I wonder if you could somehow use those disks in the dream. Since they got you here, maybe they can help keep you here, something like that.
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Right on! Here's hoping our dreams scare the crap out of us!
:cheers:
Heck yeah! :cheers:
You have really amazing recall of the whole process leading up to everything, what your mind's doing.. And it seems to work almost all the time.
Thanks. Sometimes when I come out of the non Lucid ones I have a hard time remembering the details. But most of the time if it's Lucid I can remember it well.
Yeah, if I'm determined enough I can usually get at least something. Unless I'm too tired and just fall asleep.
This is what I seem to find myself doing a lot lately. It's hard to describe, isn't it? It's like awareness, but also ignoring. It really works though, it's pretty amazing. And it seems to get easier. Last time it happened I was very close to waking up the whole time, but it seemed like I could keep going indefinitely.
Yeah, I'm glad you know what I'm talking about. The first time I did it I was walking down a park trail Lucid. The dream kept trying to slip away from me. But I was able to keep pulling myself back into it before it could completely disappear. I was able to do it for a little while anyway.
That's so cool, how the disks still appeared in the dream proper. You must have great concentration to pull that off! I wonder if you could somehow use those disks in the dream. Since they got you here, maybe they can help keep you here, something like that.
That's a good idea. But I'm not sure how to make it happen that way again though.
Yeah, My concentration can be good when I really want it to be. I'm trying to direct some of that into inducing some DILD's right now.
I'm getting really tired of this slow spell. But it's my own fault for getting lazy about it.
I've been experimenting with the melatonin a little. I have not quite decided if it helps or hurts WILD'ing.
But it certainly helps with general dream recall.
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Today's attempts
Wednesday/August/26/2009
Into my nap
Don't think I was Lucid, but I remember getting this weird perspective of laying on my side along a road. There is bumper to bumper traffic, so all the cars are stopped. I'm looking underneath one of the cars when I see a pair of hands touch down to the ground on the other side of the car. Somebody is crawling out of the car. Then my perspective changes, so that I'm more toward the back of the car. I can now see that a man in a suit crawled out of the car. And the road looks like a busy down town street. The man stands up, and he is in the middle of the road. In the lane directly next to him, is some kind of big construction vehicle. The man begins kicking this vehicle, as if he is pissed that it is in his way.
After sleeping two hours and waking up for a couple minutes, I try to WILD a little bit more. I got a couple more non Lucid dream entries, but I don't remember what they were now.
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Today's attempts
Thursday/August/27/2009
I find myself standing outside my house, in the back yard, looking around.
I then get a brief image of a big plastic container sitting on my kitchen counter.
I then find myself in the back yard of the house again.
Into my nap
I step through a large black square on a white wall. Beyond is a dark room. Across the room, through the darkness, I can see a lighted corridor. I make my way in the direction of the corridor. Before I can get there the light dims and goes out. I think, I'm going to enter a dream of darkness. Then I remember how I once used spinning to make a dark dream light. And I think I may have to try it in this dream. I don't get the chance. I wake.
I'm walking across a dark room again. There is a person beside me. I see a hint of movement on one side of the room. I think it's a monster. I got the impression of the long bony tail of an alien snaking through the darkness. There is a point on the opposite side of the room that I can see. I see two human shaped figures walking towards me. I realize that what I'm looking at is a mirror, and that I'm seeing the reflection of myself and the person beside me. I say to the person beside me," That's just our reflection, nothing to worry about." But then I realize, that since this is a dream, the figures walking towards us could become something quite different than just a simple reflection of ourselves.
Next I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm on a medieval battlefield, wielding a scimitar. I'm surrounded by the enemy, and I'm hacking and slashing, trying to stay alive.
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Ahh...there is wisdom here...I read, and my SC learns...(I hope)...
Hopefully I can start remembering to do that more often too.
Well,I was going to stay off the computer tonight and just try and focus on inducing a DILD, because it's the first night of my weekend. But have been in too shitty of a mood to concentrate on it anyway. So I thought I would get on the computer to break up my train of thought, and try to help me get into a more dreaming conducive mood.
I'm still trying to figure out if Melatonin Makes WILDing more difficult. I'm starting to lean more towards thinking that it does. But it's still unclear to me if it's the Melatonin on those nights causing difficulty, or if it's just a lack of concentration on my part. And just a coincidence that I happened to take some on the same nights as my inability to concentrate.
Friday/August/28/2009
Friday night I gave up and rolled over pretty quick, I just wanted to fall asleep. But I had a weird Lucid moment in the middle of the night. I'm not sure if it was a WILD DILD or one of those dream reentry Lucids. But I know that in the dream I believed that I had just WILDed.
I was having this dream that I was at McDonald's. I was standing in line to order. While standing in line I got into a fight with two people. I'm not sure what happened next, if I woke up for a second, or what. But next thing I know, I'm in the same dream McDonald's, standing in the same line, But fully Lucid. I believe that I had just WILDed into the dream, and I'm looking around. There is this guy cooking. He is wearing one of those stupid looking, boat like, paper cooks hats, that you never see anymore. Since I believe that I had just WILDed, I'm expecting the dream to fade. So I just kind of watch this guy cooking. Until the dream does start to fade. I'm sure that my expectation caused this, and I may have had a quick false awakening. I'm not sure about that. But I end up back in the same dream again, this time without Lucidity.
Into my nap
I lay down no my back, fully expecting to WILD, still pretty psyched up about the success I had the day before. But I must have fell right to sleep, because I didn't remember any type of HI whatsoever. I had taken another 3mg of Melatonin. I didn't even get any recall. I just suddenly woke up and it was two hours later.
Saturday/August/29/2009
I took some more Melatonin partly just to help me sleep. Because I was pretty awake, and I needed to get up really early. The Melatonin does help to make me sleepy. I lay on my back for a little while, and was unable to clear my thoughts enough to WILD, or fall asleep. So I turn over on my side, still trying to WILD that way.
I didn't WILD, but fell asleep shortly. And went directly into very vivid colorful dreaming that seemed to last the entire three to four hours I slept.
Into my nap
Same thing happened as the day before. I was fully expecting to WILD. I lay on my back, but fell right to sleep with no memory of any HI or anything.
But this time waking up from some very fun vivid dreaming.
I plan to take more Melatonin tonight, and tomorrow. For the helpful recall. And see if it still hinders WILDing. Then maybe go without any during my work week. And see if there is a difference in WILDing. But if recall starts slipping, it will be difficult to not take any.
The dreams I've been having have just been so much fun, even with a lack of Lucidity.
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Today's attempts
Sunday/August/30/2009
Well last night I managed to get a little bit of brief, Lucid, work related HI. But it was getting pretty late, like three in the morning. I decide to roll over onto my side and just try to fall asleep. But on my side I was still able an Lucid image of some old man wearing glasses.
Into my nap.
Mostly nothing going into my nap either. Even though I felt pretty tired, I worked at it for nearly two hours without falling asleep. I did manage to get a couple of "Final Destination" images. I had just gotten back from watching the movie. I think my problem was mostly due to not being able to completely clear my thoughts. But even when I started working harder at keeping a silent mind, I was not able to get much. but I did get into that weird floating expanding feeling for a while. That was kind of fun just relaxing in that state. But it didn't quickly form into images and dream scenes like it normally does.
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Well I've officially decided that melatonin is definitely bad for WILDing.
Today's attempts
Monday/August/31/2009
Well I did manage to get some stuff last night, but mostly non Lucid. And I can't remember most of it very well. What I do remember is too weird to describe. But I did almost manage to successfully WILD after a short WBTB.
After a WBTB
I start to see this image of a hand saw cutting into someones arm. It's sawing back and forth really fast, and about halfway through the arm. Then, along side that, I get the image of someones face. The mouth is moving fast, and strange sounds are coming out of it. Then along side that, a violin playing really fast. The sound of the violin going along with the sawing arm, and the person speaking weird sounds. Like some kind of macabre orchestra. The image doesn't fade, and I watch and listen to this for a little bit. At the same time having separate thoughts on how to describe this. I become aware of the feel of my blanket covering me. but to me it feels like some kind of weird second skin. Still in the dream, and not moving my real body, I reach down and pull this second skin up over my head.The skin blanket is alive, and wraps tightly around my body. Like some type of vacuum packed food container.
The scene shifts a little, and I forget that I'm dreaming. I view myself wrapped in this skin from outside it. I hear a voice say that the change will be painful. I know that I'm about to be transformed into something else. But I want this to happen, and I don't care if it hurts. I can see movement within the skin wrap, which is my body. I can hear the snapping of bones as I am being reshaped and transformed into something unrecognizable. I think it's good that no one I know will ever recognize me, because I want to disappear.
Next thing I know, I'm walking through some place that looks like a bar. There are others like me, who have been transformed by this living skin thing. Only they are all still wrapped tightly in this skin. I can see their hands clawing at the air, as if in pain. I wake.
There was another one that I can't remember. But I know I lost Lucidity right away in that one too.
Into my nap
A little bit of Lucid HI. I remember one where I'm laying on the floor near a closet door. I light suddenly comes on in the room. I have a clear view of the door I'm laying next to.
There was something else that I don't remember.
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Today's attempts
Tuesday/August/1/2009
I begin to hear what sounds like a crowed of people clapping. (It was strange.)
The clapping fades, and I begin to hear laughter. It sounds like two people laughing.
I lose Lucidity a little as I find myself standing in the parking lot of the park preserve. I can still hear the laughter. The people are near by, but I can not see them. I start walking. There is a parked car that starts backing up. I try to avoid getting hit by it.
Then I remember that I'm dreaming and the scene fades.
Into my nap
I'm in what looks like an office room. There is a desk with a woman sitting behind it.
The woman gets up, and I notice that she is really a man, dressed like a woman. Then I see another man, dressed like a woman. Something weird happens here. I don't wake, but something changes. I don't remember having a visual. But I have a sense of being someplace other than a dream. It's like I can feel where the waking world is, and I can feel where the dream world is. But I'm someplace between the two. I remember thinking that I had found my way into some dream place that I'm not sure I want to be. Then I lose Lucidity, and I'm in a small body of water swimming. That lasts for a moment before I wake.
Next, I start to get a sense of expansion, and I start to feel myself floating upwards as if I'm leaving my body behind. Then I get an image of watching myself floating up, up, into the air.
After that I decide I just want to fall asleep, So I roll over onto my side. Ironically, I am now unable to get relaxed enough, and I don't sleep at all. Kind of annoying.
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What a trip. Such bizarre stuff.
Yeah, that one was pretty far out there.
That is so weird. You remember this stuff so well. I have HI a lot of times that I just don't remember.
Sometimes that stuff can be hard to remember. I think I've lost the recall on some of it the last few days too.
I've noticed that the the melatonin seems to make it harder to get into HI, and also makes it harder to remember the stuff that I do get.
I think I'm going to try not taking it right away before going to sleep. Try and do a little bit of WILDing. Then maybe take some melatonin after an hour or two of sleeping. and see how that works.
It seems hard to turn these into full lucid dreams, but I think you're getting close.
Some days it does feel like I'm getting a lot closer. My hope, is that if I consistently work at it every day, some part of my brain will develop the way it needs to, and it will keep getting easier, and easier. And these little WILD's will start turning into full blown Lucids. I'm already starting to be able to remember stuff after WBTB's in the morning. That's encouraging.
Weird, the feeling you had. I guess you don't want to go to the office where the tranvestites work. :chuckle:
I know. :lol: I think you could be right. When I woke up I was thinking the exact same thing.
I often try for a swimming-WILD, since it worked for me once.
Oh, I never tried doing it that way. I've been having a lot of swimming dreams lately though.
What a bummer! Nothing sucks more than a nap opportunity and you can't sleep.
I know, I hate when that happens. My naps are important for getting the recall I want. I went to sleep a little earlier last night to try and make up for it. I did have some decent recall, but not until the last couple hours of sleeping.
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Today's attempt
Wednesday/August/2/2009
Well didn't get much last night. Maybe because of being so tired, and not getting my n a in.
The only thing I got in my nap today, was a brief non Lucid dream entry.
I'm driving my car, and going through an intersection. Another car comes out of nowhere, and is about to hit me. I get startled awake.
There was one other little non Lucid dream entry, but I don't remember it well enough to describe.
Then, later in my nap, I had a conversation with a DC, (A Person I know in real life.) She gave me some really good advice, but I don't think I'm going to be doing what she said I should do.
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I took too long of a nap yesterday and had a really, really hard time getting to sleep last night. I worked at trying to fall asleep for more than three hours. I was finally able to, about an an hour or less before I had to get up. And some really bizarre dream too.
Even though I was just trying to make myself fall asleep. I manged to WILD a couple of times. I pulled myself into a couple of work scenes.
It was kind of weird, because of being aware of being in two places. When I moved in the WILD it was like moving away from my real body, because I could feel it laying there, and I turned away from it. PLus what I started I started to make the dream become more stable again, with what I was doing in the dream.
I also did my chalk board drawing VILD out of a desperate, attempt to pull myself into sleep.
It was funny, I entered the dream drawing numbers. Then the chalk board became a weird texture, so that I couldn't draw on it anymore.
Then some woman near me say something like. " That doesn't make any sense." I tell her that it's because this is a dream. but I wake out of it after I say that.
I got a lot of weird audio sounds too.
I probably won't post anything tomorrow night unless I have something countable. Because I'm just going to be working at trying to induce a DILD.
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Oh yea your chalk-board drawing technique. That reminds me; I tried that a few nights ago but didn't get too far, like not past 2. Or B. I can't remember what I was drawing.
You get further than I do. But it makes me realize it's possible. I vaguely remember.
I'm not sure why that always works so well for me. It usually does even under the worst insomnia moments. Maybe I'll try playing with that a little more.
Good luck. Me too.
Thanks.
Well, I didn't get anything that I'm going to count. But I'm getting a lot closer. I had a really cool one where I thought I was in a 3-D movie. It was the best 3-D movie dream yet. It was pretty much the same as being in a Lucid Dream. I had the glasses on and everything lol. I went flying around on this cart thing, then did an end over end free fall down into this deep pit, into some caverns. I was then walking around fascinated by everything like in a Lucid Dream. There was a moment just before I woke, where I thought that I was dreaming, but full Lucidity didn't quite come to me before waking.
There were a couple of other close calls too. I'll have to try and keep pushing it.
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Today's attempts
Monday/September/7/2009
This one is actually from Saturday night.
I enter a scene, I'm not sure how Lucid I was. I don't think I knew it was a dream, but I did know it wasn't real. I'm swimming with no gear, deep beneath the surface of the ocean. I'm not just under the ocean, but swimming through some undersea cavern. I have found some strange place where great white sharks are nesting. I think about how afraid I would be of the sharks if this was real. And I'm amazed by this place I am in. I try to swim up out of the cavern. I can see where there is light coming in. I make my way in that direction. But the cave starts to close in on me, there is no longer enough room for me to get out. I'm feeling trapped, and I lose what little Lucidity I had. The idea of being trapped in this undersea cave is frightening. I begin to panic, and I wake.
Other than a bit of fear at the end, it was actually really cool.
Last night
I'm laying on my back, on my bed this time. I hear some random voices that I can't remember now. Then I start to get many random images, one after the other, in a stream. It feels like I'm still wide awake laying there, but the images are easily and smoothly flowing. I don't remember everything that I saw, but I eventually end up in a scene that holds. The scene is me still laying on my bed, on my back. My head is propped up on pillows just like for real. My dog is laying next to me along my side.
My dog in real life begins to move around. The real life movement doesn't wake me up right away. Still fully Lucid, I look at the dream dog at my side. I'm fascinated that the dream dog is now moving around, repositioning, just as the real dog is. I wake after a moment.
I should have tried getting up or something.
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That swimming one was cool. The other one was weird how it was exactly like what was really going on. Sounds like you got close to being able to get up. Next time you'll remember to try.
I hope I remember to get up next time, or do something anyway. I get so accustomed to waking up right away that I end up just waiting for it to happen.
Well I finally got a good Lucid in last night. I knew I was getting close. :content:
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Yeah, I'm glad you know what I'm talking about. The first time I did it I was walking down a park trail Lucid. The dream kept trying to slip away from me. But I was able to keep pulling myself back into it before it could completely disappear. I was able to do it for a little while anyway.
Your dreams remind me a lot of my own in some ways:
- You often know you're not IRL, but think you're in some other place--not necessarily a dream. I can't count how many times that's happened. It really does seem like another place, right? I've actually thought sometimes (in the dream) that maybe it's a dream--but decide no, it's this other thing.
- You often seem to be waking up, yet still dreaming. That's an amazing little bit of time, isn't it? It seems like that would be the best time to learn about how dreams and lucidity work.. And because you're almost really conscious, the dreams just seem so incredible, wonderful. Not to mention recall is easy. Prolonging that; that would be a hell of a skill.
I've been experimenting with the melatonin a little. I have not quite decided if it helps or hurts WILD'ing.
But it certainly helps with general dream recall.
I was going to ask you about the, especially wrt recall. But I see you've decided it's no good for WILDing.
I'm laying on my back, on my bed this time. I hear some random voices that I can't remember now. Then I start to get many random images, one after the other, in a stream. It feels like I'm still wide awake laying there, but the images are easily and smoothly flowing. I don't remember everything that I saw, but I eventually end up in a scene that holds. The scene is me still laying on my bed, on my back. My head is propped up on pillows just like for real. My dog is laying next to me along my side.
My dog in real life begins to move around. The real life movement doesn't wake me up right away. Still fully Lucid, I look at the dream dog at my side. I'm fascinated that the dream dog is now moving around, repositioning, just as the real dog is. I wake after a moment.
That's what I'm talking about.. That's fascinating!
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Your dreams remind me a lot of my own in some ways:
- You often know you're not IRL, but think you're in some other place--not necessarily a dream. I can't count how many times that's happened. It really does seem like another place, right? I've actually thought sometimes (in the dream) that maybe it's a dream--but decide no, it's this other thing.
Yeah, most of the time that kind of thing happens when I'm trying really hard to induce Lucids. I see it as one of the ways in which my sc tries to help me get Lucid. Creating a scenario for me in which I already know it's not real. From there it's just a small step from my conscious self to realize it's a dream. The DILD I had the other day was one of those. I started out thinking I was in a video game, then smoothly became aware it was a dream. Unfortunately, I don't always recognize it either, but it is a big help.
- You often seem to be waking up, yet still dreaming. That's an amazing little bit of time, isn't it? It seems like that would be the best time to learn about how dreams and lucidity work.. And because you're almost really conscious, the dreams just seem so incredible, wonderful. Not to mention recall is easy. Prolonging that; that would be a hell of a skill.
I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by that.
I was going to ask you about the, especially wrt recall. But I see you've decided it's no good for WILDing.
So far the melatonin has been like a miracle recall drug for me. I thought I had pretty good recall before I started taking it, But now I've been waking up just totally blown away by what I had just experienced, and how clearly I can still see everything in my mind. Sometimes I'll wake up just as thrilled as if I had just had the most awesome Lucid, thinking wow wow wow. I'm sure part of it is because of how focused on my dreams I have been too. Whenever I'm working extremely hard at inducing Lucids, my recall starts to get much more clear.
And with the added melatonin boost, just wow. And some of the stuff has been just off the wall.
It is true I've been having a harder time WILDing since I started using it though. I have gotten a little bit of WILD stuff the last few days, but certainly not as much, or as easily, as I was getting it before. I'm going to see if I can try harder next week.
That's what I'm talking about.. That's fascinating!
Thanks, yeah that was such a weird feeling. Being Lucid in the scene and feeling my dog moving around like that, and knowing the movement was coming from the waking world.
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Today's attempts
Sunday/September/13/2009
I start to feel like I'm spinning, really spinning around in circles. I can see the blackness spinning too, but it feels like I'm spinning around the blackness. Then I can see a man, head cocked to one side. And it seems as if he is spinning around and around, staring at me the whole time. The man fades, but the spinning continues. But now I'm starting to become stretched. I have a perspective change, and I'm watching myself being stretched out. My body gets thinner and thinner, and longer too. Until I'm as thin as paper. I watch as my body starts to become rolled up on what looks a lot like a paper towel holder. It takes a while for my entire body to be rolled up on the roller. When it's done, I laugh myself awake at the ridiculous image of myself wrapped around a paper towel roller.
After a WBTB
I am on some high plateau, over looking a lighted city at night. I don't feel like I'm in the dream proper, but will be Lucid Dreaming once I enter the city. I think of the great adventures I will have once entering the Lucid Dream city. But I come out of it before I actually do.
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Whoa they're getting weirder and weirder! :chuckle:
I know, It's weird how the dream scene can form out of the strange feelings you get.
Did you spin on purpose?
No,I was just laying there trying to stay aware, then started feeling like I was spinning around.
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Today's attempts
Monday/September/14/2009
I lay there trying to listen for audio. After a while I hear voice say,"say something already."
Then I got really uncomfortable laying on my back and gave up.
Into my nap
I see a young barefooted young girl kicking this ball around.
I enter another scene where I'm laying there just like in real life again. I see my dog walking around, and question if there is anything dreamlike about her. Then it fades away, and I realize that it was a dream.
There was a lot more stuff going into my nap, but I don't remember it all now.
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Today's attempts
Tuesday/September/15/2009
I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm at the park preserve walking down a trail. The leaves on the trees are changing to their fall colors. there are white leaves covering the ground, and also falling through the air. They look more like giant White rose peddles than leaves. The scene is very beautiful, and I'm glad that I picked this trail to walk down today.
I enter another scene without Lucidity. I'm walking at the park preserve again. This time the trail is flooded by water and I'm trying to figure out a way to get around the water.
During my nap.
Sometime during my nap I woke up for a couple moments, then try WILDing.
I feel my body go completely numb in a way that I have not felt before. And I feel that inner expansion starting to happen, only this also feels different somehow, than the other times I've felt this kind of thing. I feel suddenly very free, as if I can easily move around inside my body. And I think that I'm about to step right into a dream, and away from the waking world. But that's the last thing I remember about that. Must have just fell asleep. Darn.
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Yeah, most of the time that kind of thing happens when I'm trying really hard to induce Lucids. I see it as one of the ways in which my sc tries to help me get Lucid. Creating a scenario for me in which I already know it's not real. From there it's just a small step from my conscious self to realize it's a dream. The DILD I had the other day was one of those. I started out thinking I was in a video game, then smoothly became aware it was a dream. Unfortunately, I don't always recognize it either, but it is a big help.
Cool, kind of like a gradually building lucidity? I think my SC tries to do that with recurring elements; but when I'm in an unusual place like that, I often think it's just a "not RL" place. As if there were a third option; RL, dream, and this. It's almost exactly like "regular lucidity" otherwise.
I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean by that.
I mean the time period in which you are very close to waking up, but manage to stay in the dream. RL and dream blend together, and you're aware of both. Like you've been having where you're lying in bed, and your dog's walking around.
Because you're almost awake, you're about as conscious as you can get.
So far the melatonin has been like a miracle recall drug for me. I thought I had pretty good recall before I started taking it, But now I've been waking up just totally blown away by what I had just experienced, and how clearly I can still see everything in my mind. Sometimes I'll wake up just as thrilled as if I had just had the most awesome Lucid, thinking wow wow wow. I'm sure part of it is because of how focused on my dreams I have been too. Whenever I'm working extremely hard at inducing Lucids, my recall starts to get much more clear.
And with the added melatonin boost, just wow. And some of the stuff has been just off the wall.
It is true I've been having a harder time WILDing since I started using it though. I have gotten a little bit of WILD stuff the last few days, but certainly not as much, or as easily, as I was getting it before. I'm going to see if I can try harder next week.
Wow. I think I might have to try some melatonin. The times I've had recall like that; I know what you mean, it just completely blows you away.. It's so hard to believe so much has happened, often in a very short time. Even if it wasn't particularly lucid, it's fantastic. To be able to hold onto the detail like that..
I'd say it's definitely worth a harder time WILDing.
Thanks, yeah that was such a weird feeling. Being Lucid in the scene and feeling my dog moving around like that, and knowing the movement was coming from the waking world.
Part of what I meant above.
I start to feel like I'm spinning, really spinning around in circles. I can see the blackness spinning too, but it feels like I'm spinning around the blackness. Then I can see a man, head cocked to one side. And it seems as if he is spinning around and around, staring at me the whole time. The man fades, but the spinning continues. But now I'm starting to become stretched. I have a perspective change, and I'm watching myself being stretched out. My body gets thinner and thinner, and longer too. Until I'm as thin as paper. I watch as my body starts to become rolled up on what looks a lot like a paper towel holder. It takes a while for my entire body to be rolled up on the roller. When it's done, I laugh myself awake at the ridiculous image of myself wrapped around a paper towel roller.
:lol: That was great!
I am on some high plateau, over looking a lighted city at night. I don't feel like I'm in the dream proper, but will be Lucid Dreaming once I enter the city. I think of the great adventures I will have once entering the Lucid Dream city. But I come out of it before I actually do.
The "dream proper.." AKA "I need to go over there and get lucid.." :D
I feel my body go completely numb in a way that I have not felt before. And I feel that inner expansion starting to happen, only this also feels different somehow, than the other times I've felt this kind of thing. I feel suddenly very free, as if I can easily move around inside my body. And I think that I'm about to step right into a dream, and away from the waking world. But that's the last thing I remember about that. Must have just fell asleep. Darn.
I bet at the point you "felt free," you were already dreaming. I wonder how many times I thought I was just lying there..
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Cool, kind of like a gradually building lucidity?
Yeah, that's exactly it.
I think my SC tries to do that with recurring elements; but when I'm in an unusual place like that, I often think it's just a "not RL" place. As if there were a third option; RL, dream, and this. It's almost exactly like "regular lucidity" otherwise.
Same thing happens to me. One time I even dreamed that I went into an alternate dimension. And I saw something that said the land of dreams on it and still didn't get Lucid lol. But I woke up shortly after seeing the sign, so I didn't have much time to figure it out.
I mean the time period in which you are very close to waking up, but manage to stay in the dream. RL and dream blend together, and you're aware of both. Like you've been having where you're lying in bed, and your dog's walking around.
Because you're almost awake, you're about as conscious as you can get.
Oh, Ok, I get now. Yeah, your right, that would be really cool to prolong that. That would be amazing.
Wow. I think I might have to try some melatonin. The times I've had recall like that; I know what you mean, it just completely blows you away.. It's so hard to believe so much has happened, often in a very short time. Even if it wasn't particularly lucid, it's fantastic. To be able to hold onto the detail like that..
I'd say it's definitely worth a harder time WILDing.
It would be interesting to see what kind of dreams it gives you.
Yeah, it's definitely a fair trade off.
:lol: That was great!
Thanks. I do get some weird stuff sometimes. :lol:
The "dream proper.." AKA "I need to go over there and get lucid.." :D
Exactly. It's weird when you think like that.
I bet at the point you "felt free," you were already dreaming. I wonder how many times I thought I was just lying there..
Your probably right. I hope I can get into that spot again and have a true WILDing experience. It's always so hard for me to do that after I've been already sleeping for a little while. But I know that's the best time to make something really good happen.
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Just bumping this up in case bro is interested in reading some of it.
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I am.
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I am.
Hi StarSeeker. :)
Last night I had such a hard time falling asleep that I actually did a little bit of WILDing without trying.
At one point I thought I was looking through my eyelids because I could see my room just as if my eyes were open. Then I started to wonder if my eyes really were open. So I tried opening them and found out that they had been closed after all.
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I am.
Me too. This was very interesting, Caradon.
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At one point I thought I was looking through my eyelids because I could see my room just as if my eyes were open. Then I started to wonder if my eyes really were open. So I tried opening them and found out that they had been closed after all.
Isn't that a way to OBE? My better attempts at WILD so far involved more visualization and HI. The nearest thing I had until now, was when I tried inducing HI.
I've read some of your posts here, and it seems that you prefer to lay on your back. I also relax more easily that way, but then it reaches a point where the vibration intensifies and reaches a certain area until I get distracted.
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Must have just fell asleep. Darn.
Bummer. Well you're certainly having experiences that are note-worthy..and considerable success on some of your previous WILD attempts..I thought I struck a chord very similar to your WILD attempts this last month..unfortunately hasn't held up.
Anyway. Best of luck on your next attempt.
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Me too. This was very interesting, Caradon.
Thanks mu. but I don't think I'm going to be able to keep up on this journal. At least for now anyway.
Isn't that a way to OBE? My better attempts at WILD so far involved more visualization and HI. The nearest thing I had until now, was when I tried inducing HI.
Yeah, it probably could have turned into one of those kind. I've not had too much experience with that type of WILD.
I've read some of your posts here, and it seems that you prefer to lay on your back. I also relax more easily that way, but then it reaches a point where the vibration intensifies and reaches a certain area until I get distracted.
When I'm seriously trying to WILD it does have to be on my back. Now and then I can get something while on my side, but not usually.
I've never gotten the vibrations people describe. I do get the jerk thing a lot though.
Bummer. Well you're certainly having experiences that are note-worthy..and considerable success on some of your previous WILD attempts..I thought I struck a chord very similar to your WILD attempts this last month..unfortunately hasn't held up.
Anyway. Best of luck on your next attempt.
Thanks Bro. It does seem to get a little easier if you work at it every night. you just have to keep at it.
Caradon I've been expermenting with tetris-ILD (based on seeing that game after you play it.) Pj's idea. Have you ever tried anything like that?
I've seen it in my sleep now, and gotten lucid, but I don't know if it was seeing the game or not. Not directly, anyway.
I've not done that kind of thing intentionally. But sometimes the theme has been about something I was doing just doing.
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Well, I started neglecting this journal when the latest season of Heroes and Battlestar Galactica came out. Then I started having a lot of insomnia problems again, so I didn't take it back up after that. I just started putting all of my effort into bringing up my DILDing frequency. I was doing pretty well. I managed to get Lucid six out of seven nights.(But only counted and recorded five of those.) And I was thinking about Lucid Dreaming in nearly every dream I had for a while there. But then lost focus a little bit.
I'm not going to have the time to keep trying real hard to WILD, or keep up this journal for now. Now that I've gotten this AVATAR 3-D movie out of my system It should be easier to concentrating on getting Lucid again. I was so excited about going to that movie it was making it hard to concentrate. I will probably have to go see it at least one more time though. It's so spectacularly beautiful. It sure won't be the same movie in 2-D and on DVD.
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When I'm seriously trying to WILD it does have to be on my back. Now and then I can get something while on my side, but not usually.
I've never gotten the vibrations people describe. I do get the jerk thing a lot though.
Perhaps you don't feel the vibrations because you focus on the imagery?
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Perhaps you don't feel the vibrations because you focus on the imagery?
I don't know. Sometimes I focus on that, or getting sound first.
I've just never had the crazy SP stuff a lot of people talk about. Only mild things like the feeling of floating, sinking, and spinning. Or a little bit of numbness.
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I have got to try harder. I kind of let it slip after not succeeding for a while.
Back to work! Sometimes it's better after you put something out of mind for a while. (Nice try at optimism, huh? I think WILDing is the hardest thing I've ever tried to do.)
Oh you said you're not going to keep this journal anymore? Well do let us know if you have some sort of break-thru or major discovery!
I thought you had some really great successes.
No, I'm not going to be working on WILDing so much. Maybe I'll try harder to stay aware while falling asleep on my side. I'm going to be putting all of my efforts into DILDing. After what I was able to achieve in October and November, I know I can meet my goals if I consistently do what I need to do.
But yeah, If I have any interesting WILDing stuff I'll post it here.
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I might start working on WILDing a little bit again. As time allows.
Today's attempt
Into my nap
The impression of a female voice begins to kind of fade into my awareness.
I can't make out every word, it's like a bad connection that keeps fading in and out.
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Cool, I hadn't seen this DJ before.
I'm trying to learn WILD atm, so i'm definitly gonna spend some time reading in here!
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Cool, I hadn't seen this DJ before.
I'm trying to learn WILD atm, so i'm definitly gonna spend some time reading in here!
Hi Feist. :)
Yeah, I've not updated this for a while.
Thanks for taking an interest. I'm not really that great at it, I usually wake up from them too soon. But I enjoy the little teasers, and weird things that happen when I try WILDing.
Good luck with your efforts!
I was unable to relax enough to get anything last night, or in my nap. Maybe tonight. Oh, I did manage to get some slight audio going into my nap. Just one or two words of a male voice. I don't remember what the words were now though.
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Today's attempts
Sunday/March/28/2010
-I begin to hear what sounds like someone playing a trumpet. Then other instruments join in and it sound like maybe a jazz band playing. I listen to it for a few moments and it fades away.
-I begin to sink and spin to the left, then I'm startled awake by the hypnic jerk.
-I hear the voice of a coworker say my name, then I'm standing in a work scene with same coworker right in front of me, wanting to tell me something.
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Been having a hard time relaxing enough. After about a half an hour I just give up and try to get to sleep. I don't want to lose too much of my already limited sleep time. I had a couple recently that I didn't get around to posting though. Here is something from last night.
Monday/April/5/2010
I enter a scene Lucid. I'm standing in a check out lane at the grocery store. I notice a nice looking female in line with me. Knowing it's a dream, I allow my eyes to wander over her body, not caring about being rude staring.
The scene fades out and I enter the same scene again. The same girl is there and I continue my observations of her. I'm in it long enough to wonder at my minds ability to create her image. And I try to find something about her form that isn't the way it should be.
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Tuesday/April/6/2010
Just got some little non lucid moment about some very strange creature. I don't remember very much of it. I end up seeing through the eyes of the creature. There is a DC diving back and forth in front of me. Apparently he is trying to stay out of the creatures line of sight.
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I love that trumpety dreamland music. So so cool
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I love that trumpety dreamland music. So so cool
Yeah, I like when the music happens.
I got a little bit last night but I don't remember it too well. I have to start trying harder.
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Thanks for the thanks PJ. :)
Friday/April/9/2010
Last night I had a very strange WILDing experience.
As I lay there having much difficulty falling asleep, I wasn't really trying to WILD, just trying to force myself to sleep. I'm laying on my right side as the exact image of my room comes into view. I'm looking across the bed, and at the rest of the room. Everything is so perfect that I suddenly wonder if I had actually opened my eyes.
I then focus my awareness on my face, particularly the area of my eyes. I can clearly feel that my eyelids are closed. I don't feel like I'm asleep at all. It just feels like I'm laying there with my eyes closed. yet I can see the room as if my eyes were open.
It was the weirdest thing, feeling like I was looking right through my eyelids. I just lay there experiencing this for a few moments then it fades.
It happens again. I don't remember the second time that well. But I remember that after a few moments of laying there I decide I should try and get up this time. I wake as I sit up.
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It's experiences like this that just add to the magic and mystique of lucid dreaming. I've had similar where I could see straight through my sleep mask. Like an idiot I lay there thinking it was a useless sleep mask!
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It's experiences like this that just add to the magic and mystique of lucid dreaming. I've had similar where I could see straight through my sleep mask. Like an idiot I lay there thinking it was a useless sleep mask!
Lol, that wouldn't be a very good mask.
I've had that kind of thing happen before but never like that, where I could actually feel that my real eyes were closed. It was so odd.
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Yeah I've never had that happen either. What a cool experience!
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I really wish I could get back into WILDing. It seems so impossibly hard right now.
I am convinced that successful WILDing requires two factors. The first is within your control and is simply your ability to do it, which comes through practice. The second is that your brain has to be at the right stage in it's sleep cycle. When we awaken naturally in the night I believe our brain awakens in between phases, which means at the end of a dream phase, and so when we next go to sleep, no matter how good we are at our WILDing technique it simply isn't going to work (a bit like turning up at the cinema in the middle of the night - you simply won't get to see a movie because there won't be one playing). The only real solution to this problem, if I am correct, is to set an alarm for a WBTB and hope you wake up just after a dream stage begins. It's hit and miss I know, but as long as one relies on a natural mid-sleep awakening it's a definite miss. At least with an alarm there's a chance. Just a theory, but it does make sense. When you go back to sleep it seems logical that your brain will try to pick up where it left off.
I don't want to quit trying even if it never works.
What a refreshingly positive attitude! I find the whole process of WILDing virtually never gets me a WILD (probably because I rely on natural awakenings and never set my alarm). However, all that focusing and thinking about lucidity and setting my intention to do reality tests during my WILD attempt seems to get my brain in a primed enough state to do a reality test at some point during the dreams that follow as invariably I have a DILD following WBTB & WILD.
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I had the sleep-mask thing once, but amazingly it got me lucid.
I really wish I could get back into WILDing. It seems so impossibly hard right now. Thanks for the inspiration. I don't want to quit trying even if it never works.
It's been pretty hard for me to get back into it too. But maybe it's starting to work again.
I am convinced that successful WILDing requires two factors. The first is within your control and is simply your ability to do it, which comes through practice. The second is that your brain has to be at the right stage in it's sleep cycle. When we awaken naturally in the night I believe our brain awakens in between phases, which means at the end of a dream phase, and so when we next go to sleep, no matter how good we are at our WILDing technique it simply isn't going to work (a bit like turning up at the cinema in the middle of the night - you simply won't get to see a movie because there won't be one playing). The only real solution to this problem, if I am correct, is to set an alarm for a WBTB and hope you wake up just after a dream stage begins. It's hit and miss I know, but as long as one relies on a natural mid-sleep awakening it's a definite miss. At least with an alarm there's a chance. Just a theory, but it does make sense. When you go back to sleep it seems logical that your brain will try to pick up where it left off.
That does make sense. But against all the rules, I've always had the most success while first falling asleep. I'm convinced that this is due to the fact that it's always such a struggle for me to fall asleep. It is probably true that these early WILD's won't make it that far though.
If I could get better at staying Lucid while going into later dreams... But so far even the times that I have, the dreams are still so unstable when first entering that they slip away from me pretty quickly.
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Saturday/April/10/2010
-I start viewing this work scene. I'm not in it, I'm just watching. Co-worker L, is asking co-worker V, if she has anything for a headache. She gets something from V then walks away. L starts pacing around. The scene gets weird. It's not really work anymore. It's kind of blank but not dark. There is a green floor and L is pacing around on the green floor.
- After that I have a kind of long one that I can't recall very well. There is a small animal being chased around a house by a cat. I'm watching like a movie again. The small animal being chased knows it's a dream and is playing the cat. It's a Tom and Jerry kind of scene. The small animal is pretending to be afraid as it runs all over the place, with the cat in pursuit. The small Lucid animal eventually tires of this game and changes it's form. It grows in size. It becomes twice the size of the cat. Grey, round shaped, and fur that sticks up like the quills of a porcupine. The expression on its face becomes ferocious as it attacks the cat. They roll around in a ball of fury, like a cartoon animal fight. Then the Lucid creature walks out the front door.
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That's some massive detailed HI. That suddenly reminded me of some tiny bit I had last night; I was thinking of one thing, then it got weird, and I realized it was thought-HI.
Cool, I'm glad I was able to remind you of that.
I wish I could of recalled more of that more clearly. It was pretty cool though.
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Monday/May/3/2010
I start seeing a car driving along a road. As I watch the car I'm just trying to stay focused on falling asleep. The scene shifts and I'm viewing myself in a bathtub. There is somebody holding me under the water drowning me. After a moment I start to get confused about whats going on. I'm floating around the room and I start to wonder if I've been killed and left my body.
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O_O I die a lot, but I hardly ever see my own body. Was it freaky, I mean, not counting the dying part? Must have been some intense SP that lead up to that..
:lmao: :D at the Tom & Jerry-like dream! Poor cat. It always seemed it was like this in the cartoon too.. :shakehead:
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O_O I die a lot, but I hardly ever see my own body. Was it freaky, I mean, not counting the dying part? Must have been some intense SP that lead up to that..
Oh, it wasn't freaky at all. I felt completely detached from the events. I was just floating there considering what might be happening.
There wasn't really any SP that I remember, I just started viewing the car driving, then I was floating above the bathtub scene.
:lmao: :D at the Tom & Jerry-like dream! Poor cat. It always seemed it was like this in the cartoon too.. :shakehead:
Yeah, It was just like the cartoon. It was weird.
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I'm moving this one to my WILDing journal because it was basically a WILD. I just had lost awareness for a few moments after entering the scene. It happens that way sometimes. It's also one of the very few that I have officially counted.
Sunday/June/14/2010
Lucid Dream # 33 0f 2010
I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm standing on the sidewalk along a dark city street. It's kind of dark, and there is a large building behind me. I hear police sirens. I look down the long road and can make out just a bit of red flashing lights. I want to get inside the building before a hoard of loud emergency vehicles come rushing by. I begin walking along the sidewalk, towards a door in the side of the building. Someone comes up behind me, surprising me. It's a small skinny man with short blond hair. "Give me your money!" He demands. Just then I remember that this is a dream.( I sometimes forget for the first couple of seconds of the scene when WILDing.) But instead of instantly snapping out of like I normally would in this situation, I continue standing there. I just stare at the wimpy looking man trying to rob me.
I don't respond to him in any other way. I'm just looking at his face, fascinated that he is not yet fading away. "Well, Give me your money!" He demands again. Still I don't respond, I just calmly stare at him with the same fascination.
After a moment, a few more people come running up, Possibly some of his friends. There were a few quick words spoken, I don't remember exactly what they were. Then they all randomly run away. Then another person runs up, slaps me on the shoulder, Says my name and runs off. I then stand there looking around. Wow I think to myself, I'm actually staying in a WILD. The entire environment has this really powerful feel to it. At the time of this dream I'm just starting to recover from an extremely bad fever that I came down with shortly after returning from the cabin. And the feeling of my fevered mind has carried into the dream state. I continue in my original direction, heading for the door in the side of the building. I pull the door open, and just when I'm about to enter the building, Another random man appears.
He wedges himself between me and the entrance. This one is dark hair, kind of heavy set, and has an aggressive look about him. Before he has a chance to say anything, I beat him to it."Give me your money!" I demand. Just then I come out of it.
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A little while back
I enter a scene without Lucidity. There is a man standing in from of me tat looks like a janitor. He is wearing a gray jump suit type uniform, and pushing a mop bucket. He starts talking to me but I can't understand the words."What?" I ask. He repeats himself but I still can not understand him. Just then I remember that this often happens when first entering dreams, and become Lucid. It's like my mind is not completely tuned into the station, and can't quite bring in the words clearly. The man continues to speak. I say something to him. I can't remember my exact words, but it was some smart ass comment, making fun of him for not being able to speak. We have a brief unremembered exchange of comments before I wake.
Saturday/July/24/2010.
--I enter a scene Lucid. There is a girl speaking to me. Like before, I can not understand exactly what she is trying to say. I can tell that she is trying to ask me a question though. I ask her to repeat it several times. Some of what happens next I can't remember very well. Just before waking I remember thinking that this is cool that I'm Lucid.
--A little later I enter another scene Lucid. It's a work scene, and there is some girl walking in front of me. I watch her for a while, thinking about how clear and vivid this scene is. It eventually fades out, but I slip in and out of the same scene a few times before finally falling back to sleep. ( I had been sleeping for a little while before I did this one.)
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what didn't you like about inception?
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I hope I can get some inspiration here. I feel like I'm further from WILDing than ever. It's weird how that happens and then I can't imagine how I ever did it.
Yeah, I know. I've been trying to get back into it. I have this new recliner. It's big and comfortable, fully automatic, with a remote. like a hospital bed. And with a built in back massager. I'm so spoiled right now, with the 3D TV and now this chair. Anyway, I'm going to try using the chair for WILDing.
what didn't you like about inception?
Gosh, I could go on and on all day about all the things in the movie that I thought were stupid. But to simplify it, I'll just say that other than the five to ten minute sequence that was very dreamlike, and very cool. I didn't think the rest of the dreaming events were even remotely dreamlike. May as well have been watching an action movie that was supposed to be taking place in the waking world, because I didn't see much difference. I guess what really turned me off the most, right from the start, was all the stupid gun fights. I was really hoping, and expecting, that Inception was going to be an inspirational movie about dreaming, that was going to really help motivate me into pulling myself out of this dry spell that I've gotten into. The movie was a huge fail in that regard. Any one of the Nightmare On Elm Street movies is more of an inspiration.
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Sunday-July-25-2010
--I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm walking my dog through the campgrounds of the park preserve near my house. This leads to a weird scene that I don't remember too well, trying to get into some building, and lighting a fire, like a torch or something.-- had a hard time recalling this at all as I came out of it.
-- kicked back in my new reclining chair just trying to stay aware as I doze off. I feel something change. as I sit there with my eyes closed, I get the distinct feeling that I'm actually now in a dream. I just sit there enjoying the feeling because I know the moment is a fragile one, and easily slipped out of.--
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Wednesday-July-28-2010
I start hearing a voice saying my name several times. Then I end up entering a scene Lucid. My recall of it isn't too great though, need to keep working on this. It's a house, or an apartment. There is someone there. I'm interacting with this person. I can't remember exactly what we were doing, I remember walking through different rooms. My Lucidity is kind of partial at first as I'm getting pulled into events, but then I start thinking about how this is a dream and I'm more fully aware. I walk into a room that has a large window. There is something wrong with the view outside, it's pitch black. I walk up to the window, thinking of the view as a curious dream phenomenon when I come out of it.
I just might have counted this one, if I would have remembered more of it more clearly. Just the last part with the window is real clear in my mind.
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I was trying to WILD in my reclining chair today. I didn't really get anything but I kept falling asleep, and then snoring so loudly that I would wake myself up. This happened at least four times. I finally gave up on the chair and went to bed. I had a couple of WILDs there, but I can not remember them now. :sad1: All I remember is that in one I was walking around in some kind of store. Can't really take notes on WILDs. If I do it will bring me too fully awake.
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I've started working on my WILDing again. It's been a few days now, maybe a week. I've started getting a little bit, and it feels good to get that little taste of Lucidity.
Probably not going to be posting much of them unless they stand out to me in some way. We'll see, I've not quite decided how much of them I want to keep a record of.
But of course, I'll be posting any I feel are worthy of counting as official Lucid Dreams. If and when that ever happens. :?
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I'm going to do the same. I'm going to try to get more sleep and therefore maybe not always fall asleep when I try to WILD (on weeknights, without caffeine, I mean--that's the only way I can do it.)
That might help. I don't fall asleep laying on my back very easy. That's how I have to do it, most of the time. My biggest problem is that once I start getting to that point where I start slipping into dream scenes, I have a really hard time resisting the urge to roll over on my side and just fall asleep.
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Tuesday-November-30-2010
I'm just laying on my back trying to relax, and WILD. I enter a scene Lucid but I have forgotten that I'm WILDing. It's Just kind of a matter of fact situation. There is no real surprise or excitement about being in this scene. I'm just here and I'm aware I'm dreaming. I'm in what is like a box car of some train that is moving along. I'm thinking about something I was discussing with a friend about Lucid Dreaming. I was talking about how unbelievably vivid Lucid Dreams can be. Like hyper reality. As I look around this scene it has a very realistic feel to it, the environment doesn't really have that vibrant glowing quality that Lucid Dreams have. It just seems like a normal place. I walk up to the door of the box car and slide it open. I look outside, and it's now like I'm sitting in my car and have opened the door and am looking out and towards the rear of the car. It's a very snowy scene. There is snow on the ground everywhere and snow is falling from the sky. I shut the door and I'm back in the train car. This is when the implication that I'm Lucid Dreaming actually hits me. I was aware I was dreaming before, but now I'm oh wow I'm Lucid Dreaming. Still not remembering that I was trying to WILD. I think that this is a normal Lucid Dream, not a WILD. I get excited, Woo hoo I did it, I really wanted to get Lucid tonight. Then my excitement snaps me back to full wakefulness. I try to do it again for a few minutes. I get the feeling of motion as if I'm entering the train car scene again, but I don't completely get back into it. After a minute or two I give it up and just go to sleep.
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Same here. I can't even make it that far except very rarely. When I do CWILD, I can easily WILD on my side, but I fall asleep too easy usually.
It's hard.
Occasionally I can get some Lucid HI while laying on my side. But that's fairly rare. Usually only when I'm having a really hard time falling asleep.
Looks like you almost did it in that one. You got pretty far.
Yeah, forgetting that I was WILDing really helped. For a moment there I thought I was in the middle of a good countable Lucid.
Was Lucid last night but it was in the first couple of dreams and can't remember it very well at all. I remember levitating and flying around a room a little, but the rest of it's mostly gone. Recall is a lot better now, but still far from perfect. Had some vivid recall in later dreams, and a good chance at getting Lucid during a sledding dream in my nap today too.
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You always do really well at WILDing when you try. But I know how hard it is too, to make yourself try all the time. I've been forgetting lately. Or I fall asleep so fast it's not happening.
I started having trouble once I started taking melatonin every night. Still taking it even though it's doing nothing for my dreams anymore. If anything it makes recall more difficult.
Had some low level Lucidity yesterday. It started out with me thinking I was in a 3D movie. Then I ended up going into one of my acrobatic fits for the remainder of the dream.
Funny little WILD today. I was laying there when I felt the dog move next to me. I kind of wonder if she needs to go outside. Next thing I know dog is at the door wanting to be let out. I get up to let her out half knowing I'm still WILDing. I can tell my body is sleeping and I think I'm sleepwalking. I think it's pretty cool that I can get up and let the dog out without actually having to wake up.
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I don't know if our dog would agree with that. :chuckle:
Yea I guess I take the melatonin for non-dream related purposes. It doesn't seem like it would hurt dreams, since it's higher when you're younger, and decreases when you get older. But maybe it's not a natural amount or something.
I read it's good for the immune system. Could account for why I never caught a cold or flu last winter. This June after my cabin trip I caught a really really bad fever though. But I think that was probably because of getting too much sleep on my time off. My body isn't used to sleeping so much.
Since melatonin is supposed to suppress REM sleep, at least initially, and since I usually don't sleep more than a couple hours at at a shot, I'm guessing it's not helping those early REM periods. And maybe for the same reason making WILDing more difficult for me.
There were a few nights when I didn't take any and recall seemed really good on those nights. But since recall can fluctuate a lot it's hard telling if that was for sure the reason. Also when I stopped taking it, by the second night I end up with a terrible headache. My eyeballs actually hurt. Again, hard telling for sure if that was the cause, but it seemed like it was. I'm not going to take any tonight and see what happens. Also intending to sleep longer.
As for how much I'm taking. Last time I resupplied I got a two for one deal on a couple of bottles of 5mg liquid gel caps. So I've been taking one of those most nights. Can't really break those in half. When those are gone I'll get the 3mg ones again.
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I've been taking 3 mg. I sometimes don't take it; not sure if I notice much difference on those nights. No physical symptoms that I've noticed.
I've gone two nights without it. No headaches this time so that must have had another cause. recall was pretty good the first day, especially in my nap. Not so good last night. Didn't take a nap today though. Not much for WILDing. I'll probably take some tonight.
Watched The Outpost yesterday. Not too bad. Weird ending. The movie reminded me of The Fog a little.
Got Alice In Wonderland 3D today. Never saw it before. It's very good, surreal, and dream inspiring.
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Yea, the way it was filmed was weird; it seemed to change in the middle. Not the best Nazi-zombie movie ever, but OK. (you saw "Dead Snow", didn't you?)
Yeah, I saw Dead Snow. That was a fun one.
:goodjob: I can't wait to read them. :)
It's kind of cool, Alice thinks she is in a dream the entire time so it's like the movie is a Lucid Dream, sort of. She even has a conversation with the Mad Hatter, discussing how he is a character created by her own mind. It's very reminiscent of those moments of talking to real dream characters.
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Wednesday-December-8-2010
Laying on my back and I get the focus just right to easily start getting audio. I lay there for a while just listening to different voices speaking random sentences. Can't remember any specific sentences now though. I suddenly start hearing the sirens of emergency vehicles so loudly that I think they are real and just outside my house. I sit up quickly and realize it was just in my head. Wearing both the foam earplugs, plus the earmuff kind over the top of those, I doubt I would have heard the sirens outside if they had been real anyway.
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Thursday-December-9-2010
Was laying there trying to get that perfect focus to receive audio but It wasn't happening as easily this time. But after a few minutes I start getting visual instead. I see this thing that looks like some kind of Christmas tree decoration. It's a figure that looks almost like a snowman, but made of shiny metal. The thing rushes at me and kind of disintegrates into smoke as it gets closer to my face. I slip out of it then get a brief image of an old man sitting in a chair. I come out of it then give it up, because I have less than three hours to sleep.
I try again when I get home from work but I had some things on my mind and couldn't concentrate. Wasn't able to fall asleep at all actually.
My boss told me I could stay home from work tomorrow because of the big snow storm coming, so get to sleep in some. :) Just hope I will be able to get the car out of the cul-de-sac Sunday morning. Hopefully someone will come and plow it before then, but I'm not counting on it. The city doesn't do it and the stupid association is pretty much worthless. Last time it snowed I ended up getting the car stuck out there, a couple of times.
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Hopefully you won't have to go anywhere.
Today(Saturday) I don't have to. But I'm supposed to be at work early in the morning. I don't think that's going to happen. I've just spent pretty much the entire day shoveling. I've got the Cul-de-sac completely cleared out to the road on the one side. Now every house but one can get their cars out because of me. And I did it with a shovel. I'm pretty impressed with myself lol. :D But the snow is real deep out in the road still and I'm not going to be able to drive down it until the city comes through with the plows, sometime tomorrow hopefully. But it's not likely to be early enough for me to get to work on time, if t all.
Really wish I had a big powerful snow blower right now.
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:goodjob: They should all chip in and buy you a present. You're gonna dream about shoveling.
Yeah, they should get me a nice snow blower! Actually, I got one yesterday. Someone I know just got a new one so they sold me their old one really cheap. Their old one is pretty nice too. I was making some trails in the back yard with it and it easily cuts right through. It doesn't have normal wheels, it has like tank track deals so it rolls through a lot easier. Too bad I didn't have that thing Saturday morning.
I did have some Shoveling HI.
We got quite a bit too, not sure how much. It looks deep. I guess it's stopped now.
You might have gotten even more than we did. I think they said it was around 17" in Minneapolis. Did you hear about what happened to the Metrodome?
The roof collapsed and an avalanche of snow fell into the middle of the playing field. Good thing no one was there playing at the time. people probably would have been killed.
Well in that case you might as well enjoy your day off, if there's nothing to do about it.
Ended up having to work. Went out and checked and surprisingly a plow had made a quick pass through in the middle of the night. Just pushed enough snow out of the way that I could get through.
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Yeah we had a bunch already too. Never had a snow blower before so kind of fun playing around with that.
I slept sitting in my recliner all night. About eight or nine hours. I don't think I've ever done it for the entire night before. Normally I get up and go lay down after a while.
The intention was to aid in WILDing. I didn't get any WILD stuff that I can remember. But recall ended up being very good, and I did have some MILD Lucidity.
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Uh-oh, getting old, sleeping in the chair all night. ;)
Maybe it will be good for dreaming. :)
Lol, I did it on purpose. I wish falling asleep was that easy for me. Then again, maybe not. People like that fall asleep driving too.
Yeah, I think the chair is good for dreaming. I need to do that more often. It especially helps with WILDing because I'm forced to stay in one position. I can't so easily roll over. I just don't have the will power to stay laying on my back otherwise.
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Isn't that so hard? Why is that so hard? It doesn't seem like it should be. Especially for me and you, since we want to WILD so much. It's not like it hurts or anything; it's just impossible to stay in that position. I've even almost fallen asleep and snapped awake and realized and then couldn't even stay that way, as tired as I was.
I know. It's like once my body starts getting that numb drifting off feeling I start to get extremely uncomfortable and I just have to roll over. Especially since I'm laying on the floor. I completely got rid of my bed because I was having too many back problems. I have a really comfortable air bed I can use when I want, but I'm not using it right now. I'm just using one of those foam camping mats right now.
Damn it. Just wrote down a WILD I had the other day but accidentally deleted it. I don't feel like writing it again.
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I've thought about checking out those sleep number beds too. It'll probably be a while before I'm motivated to spend money on a bed though.
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Yea. The good thing about the tempurpedic is a 20 year warranty, and no moving parts.
That would have been nice to have through yesterdays full day of sleeping.
Sunday-January-9-2011
Just laying there trying to fall back to sleep when a scene fades in. It's my living room, and S, a very nice looking girl that I work with is standing there. She is wearing that parka with the fur lined hood that looks so cute on her. Then with a little confusion, I think, am I Lucid? Yeah, this is a dream and I'm aware of it. I lose a little recall on what exactly happens next. I know I enter the scene and after a moment remember that I always want to see S in a Lucid. But the next thing I remember is going outside through the back door. There are two other people here I don't know who they are. I hear a noise behind me and I stop and look back. I think that we had left the door open and that the sound was of S shutting the door. The other two people continue around the side of the house. Then I'm like where am I going? I want to see S. So I start going back to the house but just then I wake.
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That's a nice WILD! I know you would have liked it to continue for longer, but I'd say that's more than an attempt, and a success.
Thanks. I was considering counting that one. I guess I'll post it in my Lucid thread as the first one of the year. :)
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Tuesday-March- 29-20011
Laying on my back head propped up a little higher on pillows than I normally would. Trying to relax and not think a single word. I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm in a car, driving. Someone is with me. We are talking about the beauty of the scenery. We have just past the last little town on the way there. As we drive along I see a small body of water, a marshy pond. I think I see an animal in the water. Yes, there is movement. A brown shape in the water. Ahh, it's a beaver. I watch as the beaver swims away then come out of it.
I try for a couple minutes longer but having trouble keeping thoughts silent now, and mostly give it up.
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Tuesday-March- 29-20011
Laying on my back head propped up a little higher on pillows than I normally would. Trying to relax and not think a single word. I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm in a car, driving. Someone is with me. We are talking about the beauty of the scenery. We have just past the last little town on the way there. As we drive along I see a small body of water, a marshy pond. I think I see an animal in the water. Yes, there is movement. A brown shape in the water. Ahh, it's a beaver. I watch as the beaver swims away then come out of it.
I try for a couple minutes longer but having trouble keeping thoughts silent now, and mostly give it up.
At least you entered a scene albeit not with lucidity :P In my case, I have a hard time getting HI to start with, maybe it has to do with not staying awake up(in my WBTB attempts) or maybe I just maintain my awareness too much and as a result, I never get to HI because I'm clearly awake O_O
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At least you entered a scene albeit not with lucidity :P
Yaeh, it happens that way sometimes. :P A part of the process.
In my case, I have a hard time getting HI to start with, maybe it has to do with not staying awake up(in my WBTB attempts) or maybe I just maintain my awareness too much and as a result, I never get to HI because I'm clearly awake O_O
It's difficult. I have to keep thoughts very silent.
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Wednesday-March-30-2011
- I hear a the voice of a woman speaking. Can't remember exactly what was said because of getting distracted by the two dogs growling at each other.
- Laying there trying to get something. I begin to feel really weird, numb and floaty. There is a woman being rolled up and down a string as if she was a yo-yo. At first I'm not sure If I'm actually seeing this or just imagining it. But then it becomes a dream. There is some communication and interaction with the woman on the string that I can't really recall Then the woman causes some kind of dragon-fly type creatures to begin flying out of my mouth. At this point Lucidity is kind of partial. I get a little freaked out at the things flying out of my mouth and come out of it.
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At least you entered a scene albeit not with lucidity :P
Yaeh, it happens that way sometimes. :P A part of the process.
Either way, I think that's great :)
In my case, I have a hard time getting HI to start with, maybe it has to do with not staying awake up(in my WBTB attempts) or maybe I just maintain my awareness too much and as a result, I never get to HI because I'm clearly awake O_O
It's difficult. I have to keep thoughts very silent.
True, hoping that waking up at WBTB and then just focusing on some music in my head would help :D
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Either way, I think that's great :)
Thanks. Yeah, the non Lucid WILDS can be pretty interesting too.
True, hoping that waking up at WBTB and then just focusing on some music in my head would help :D
I need to work on getting better at at them after WBTB too. That's the best time for a real successful one after all.
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Thursday- March-31-2011
I think there was a little bit of something but don't really remember. I gave up shortly because of having to be up in a couple hours and didn't want to spend too much time on it.
Going to sleep early tonight. Maybe have enough time for a WBTB, we'll see.
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I need to work on getting better at at them after WBTB too. That's the best time for a real successful one after all.
oh, so, you are trying to WILD when you first go to sleep? ??? If that's the case, then that's pretty impressive. I can't even get to a dream scene, let alone HI in my WBTB :P
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oh, so, you are trying to WILD when you first go to sleep? ??? If that's the case, then that's pretty impressive. I can't even get to a dream scene, let alone HI in my WBTB :P
Thanks, yeah. Most of the WILDs in this journal are as I first fall to sleep. Either at night, or into a nap. I need to work on doing better with them later in the mornings too.
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Friday-April-1-2011
-There is something about a group of people running.
-There is a beautiful girl with long straight black hair looking at me in a suggestive manner. She turns and walks away from me in a way that seems to be inviting me to follow.
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I've noticed that when I visualize something with sound, even if I don't particularly feel tired or get any other feeling that it's working, I can often "hear" the sound. Hand clapping, for example.
I don't know what it means, but I'm going to try to use that. Have you ever noticed that?
I've actually noticed the same thing since I've been working on that, but when V-WILDing, aren't you supposed to be engaging all the fives senses as much as possible? :P
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Yeah, I think I know what you guys are talking about. I don't think I've really thought about it with VILDing, but I'm sure it must have happened sometimes. Interesting idea purposely adding sound to the image. Maybe something along the lines of smacking sticks together. To get the visual, motion, and sound all together.
I don't usually try to VILD unless I'm desperately trying to beat insomnia. Then my chalk board or note book writing method usually works pretty well to pull me in. But I prefer the silent thought, blank mind method and let what a happens happen. I like when I can be quite enough to listen for the random audio stuff to come before the visual If I can. I love listening to the voices in my head Mua ha ha ha ha. :evilchuckle:
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Saturday-April-2-2011
- Been trying to get some audio and finally do. 'Boom boom boom boom." Someone stomping on the floor upstairs really hard. I even feel a little bit of shaking from the vibration the stomping causes.
I come home from work and decide to try a little WILDing kicked back in my reclining chair before laying down for a nap.
-It's fairly successful, I get all sorts of stuff. A little bit of audio voices first. Can't remember exactly what the words were now though. It wasn't much, just a sentence or two. Then I enter and come out of several different scenes, mostly work stuff. Sometimes they are Lucid, sometimes not.
-But then I get something a bit more interesting(At least for me.) Fully Lucid I lift my arm and look at my hand. It's sort of an OBE type since it feels like I'm still sitting there in my chair. I'm fully aware of the feeling of my real body as I look at my dream body hand. I don't often examine my hands in dreams and I remember that dream fingers are supposed to look weird. My hand is kind of tilted flat so that I can't see all the fingers well. For a second I try to get a better look at them, but I become distracted by an ever increasing odd feeling of being disconnected from my real body. Hmm how to describe it... It was just weird, I have this sense of being aware of both bodies at once, and yet maybe also separate from both of them as well. I feel this inner dimensional space kind of opening up and making me feel as if I'm moving farther away from my real body without an actual sense of movement. More of a sense of expansion than of moving away.
After that I try to lay down for a nap, but couldn't clear thoughts enough to fall asleep or WILD any more. That kind of sucks because I wanted a nap for better recall tonight. Maybe the WILDing was enough to help. Yay, I get a two day weekend finally. First one in practically a month. This will be the fourth weekend, actually, since my last two day weekend.
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Phew! talk about some cool WILDs... I've been trying to but it isn't going so well. OBE stuff seems really weird, makes me want to try it out in future lucids!
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:gaah: I totally was gonna tell you something, but forgot what it was on the way from my DJ to yours. I'm sure it was very important so hopefully it will come back to me.
Darn, I hope you remember what it was.
I don't purposely add sound, sometimes it just happens. It's like within a few seconds, even if I don't feel tired at all. Yet I know some parts of my mind must be ready for that, since it can happen so quickly.
Oh ok. I do often get sound but I don't remember noticing it as much during VILDing, though, since I'm focused more on the visual aspect of it. But it must happen sometimes. I'll remember to watch for that next time I'm trying to VILD.
That was cool, even if it didn't lead to a lucid.
yeah, that was pretty cool. I wish I would get them like that more often. Maybe it was sitting in the chair that helped to cause that.
Hope it was a good one. :)
Thanks. :) Well, Monday and Tuesdays are my weekends. So I'm on it right now. So far it's good. Didn't have to wake up to an alarm clock. And knowing I don't have to tomorrow either makes this moment right now pretty nice. :D plus have a countable Lucid from last night too. Not a very long one, but an interesting experience for me since I consciously controlled the environment a little. I just woke up too soon to fully take advantage of what I had done.
Phew! talk about some cool WILDs... I've been trying to but it isn't going so well. OBE stuff seems really weird, makes me want to try it out in future lucids!
Thanks, Kwauf. Thanks for reading. And welcome to our forum. :D
The OBE type WILD is pretty rare for me so far. usually I just randomly enter scenes, or view images and hear stuff. Sometimes I get the odd floaty feelings to go with it. Yeah, the WILDing can be difficult. Have to work at it a little bit every day and it starts to come a little easier after a while. Hopefully I'm starting to get to that point again. And maybe I can keep at long enough this time to actually start staying in them, and making them at least what I feel like are real Lucid Dreams.
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Sunday-April-3-2011
-I enter a weird scene without Lucidity. I grab my left foot and pull it close to my face. I'm wearing shoes and for some odd reason I'm trying to bite my shoelaces. :? I can't quite get my foot close enough to bite on them though.
-I enter a scene Lucid. I'm at work. My boss comes up to me and starts talking to me. I can't remember what was said, I don't remember the scene that clearly. But as my boss is talking to me I clearly remember the feeling that I've entered a full blown Lucid Dream. I get a little excited about that and come out of it.
I think there was a little more before rolling over onto my side but I can't remember everything.
-laying on my side I enter another scene Lucid. I'm standing in front of the refrigerator with the door open. I reach inside and start moving stuff around for a moment before coming out of it
I try after a WBTB but can't much. I manage to see a couple very brief work related images. All this working related WILD stuff is kind of annoying. If I take a nap today I'll edit in if I get anything else. Not sure if I will be.
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Monday-April-4-2011
Disappointing night. Not much for WILD, or recall in general. I I kind of remember the face of a nice looking girl. I seem to be getting a lot of that in my HI.
After lunch I kick back in my recliner with the intention of just sitting there trying to get WILDs for however long I feel like doing it. The only thing that I remember clearly getting is the image of my vacuum cleaner. Then I just end up falling asleep in my chair. But I end up having some really vivid dream recall sitting in my chair so I'm pretty happy with that anyway.
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Tuesday-April-5-2011
People start randomly appearing an walking past my field of vision. I always see there backs because it's like they walk past and away from me, one after the other. I have difficulty getting any deeper into it, so i start VILDing. It comes easy. Pretty much instantly I'm in a scene in front of a huge blackboard. I have this giant piece of chalk in my hand and I'm drawing these huge loops across the blackboard. Then I suddenly find myself back in grade school. There is some commotion, kids and stuff. And I wonder at these dreams of being back in school again. (But it was the VILDing that brought me to that particular scene of course.) Then I suddenly get the hypnic jerk thing that knocks me out of it
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You always get so much closer than me.
Except for on your C-WILD nights. Then you're pretty awesome at it.
It's a little discouraging to see even then it's so hard, but I like reading this because it reminds me to try every night.
Well, I'm certainly not trying to be discouraging. :sad1: But I do think that working at it every night is pretty important, even if it only entails getting some brief HI. I think the more you do it the easier it gets to get into that hypnagogic state.
One of these nights, we'll get it figured out.
Yes. :)
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Wednesday-April-6-2011
-This odd scene fades in. It's like one of those dumb late night comedy talk shows that are not really very funny. Jay Leno or David Letterman. there is a long desk with three guys sitting behind it. behind them is this big lit up cityscape scene. there is some kind of discussion going on about whether or not the city scene behind them is real a real city or a fake image.
-I enter a work scene. Lucidity starts out kind of partial. S, I very nice looking girl that often work with is doing something off to my right a little. I look over at her, and she looks back at me. I look back to my work so as to not just stare at her. But then I remember that since this is a dream it doesn't matter what I do. So I look back at her. She is still looking my way, and I just hold her gaze with my own. I have time to think about the amazing realism of even this minor Lucid moment. S, is so exactly her. And the expression on her face is so her as well. Her expression is kind of half knowing half questioning. It takes me a second to let go of the awkward feeling of just sitting there staring at her. But being aware it's just a dream I'm able to shrug it off quick enough. Dream fades away.
Had a couple non Lucid ones going into my nap. Can only seem to remember one though., I know there was more. They were kind of involved short little dreams. The one I remember had kind of a morbid feel to it. There were two people looking for something in a cemetery, and there was this huge gate at the entrance of the cemetery. can't remember the details very well now, but there was something important about the cemetery gate.
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That always seems like it doesn't count. It works, but I want it to carry over to other nights. I think it helps, any success is better than nothing. But it doesn't help as much as I wish it did.
I know what you mean but it's still really cool that you have so much success doing it that way.
No, it's not discouraging, I like reading it a lot.
Ok, good. Hopefully I can keep it up this time. :P
I hope it gets easier. I think it will. Just takes a lot of practice.
It does. It be nice to find some time where I don't have to worry about falling asleep at all and just sit there practicing WILDing for however long. I attempted that on my day off but ended up falling to sleep anyway lol.
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Thursday-April-7-2011
-I hear some random sentence that is completely nonsense. Can't remember the whole thing now though, wish i would have wrote it down right away. Voice says "Cut it all off." then something about a letter.
-I enter scene without Lucidity. I'm not sure I have a body in the scene, but my perspective is of flying along the top of this huge wall that looks very similar to the great wall of china. I come to a spot where there is a very young boy standing atop the wall and looking out over the land. The boy is royalty, a prince maybe. I think this is supposed to be an ancient time in a foreign land. The boy is troubled. He wants to do something to make a change in the world, but for some reason he is unable to do anything. I can tell this is very frustrating for him. I have a sense that he wants to jump from the wall and fly away. But he cannot because he will just fall to his death instead of fly.
-I enter a couple more scenes without Lucidity. Just more work related stuff.
After work
-I hear some sound that is familiar, but I cannot remember where I have heard it before. I get the feeling that I heard it on some game show maybe. The sound isn't really music. More like what some kind of game machine might make.
I get some more brief work related HI images. I start getting really uncomfortable and end up giving in and rolling over on my side. I try for more in that position but don't remember anything else before falling asleep.
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How do you not just fall asleep? So often, I think I'm wide awake, and I think I should try to WILD...next thing I know, it's three hours later. I need something to keep me alert yet let me sleep, beside caffeine.
I guess that's the hard part. If I think too much, I wake myself up too much. If I don't think enough, I fall back asleep instantly.
I think it's a good sign that you are going into non-lucids and recalling it so well. I always have what seems like a black-out period, but it's probably just lack of recall. That first scene with the boy on the wall was really cool and interesting and detailed, even if not lucid.
Going to have to agree with this big time. I don't drink coffee or crazy amounts of tea so I don't need caffeine to keep me alert, however, I find that if I start to think about LDing, very rarely I'll get a headache(like really rare), but, more cases than not, I'll remain awake and can't actually sleep. It's only when I drop the thoughts and quiet my mind that I'll fall asleep pretty fast but then that doesn't benefit me in my quest to get more LDs. Your WILDs are inspiring though, nice to know that at least someone is able to hang onto his conscience as he drifts off. My best HI might be some purple and green lights spinning around :/
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How do you not just fall asleep? So often, I think I'm wide awake, and I think I should try to WILD...next thing I know, it's three hours later. I need something to keep me alert yet let me sleep, beside caffeine.
It's very difficult for me to fall asleep laying on my back. Especially since I sleep on the floor. It can be pretty difficult just to lay that way long enough to do any WILDing sometimes. Once I turn over onto my side, though, 90% of the time I do just fall asleep even though I'm still trying to maintain awareness in that position. Sometimes when I do it in my recliner I fall asleep too. But I've also ended up with several really good DILDs while trying to WILD in my recliner.
I guess that's the hard part. If I think too much, I wake myself up too much. If I don't think enough, I fall back asleep instantly.
Try finding a way to position yourself so it's not so comfortable that it's easy to fall asleep.
I think it's a good sign that you are going into non-lucids and recalling it so well. I always have what seems like a black-out period, but it's probably just lack of recall. That first scene with the boy on the wall was really cool and interesting and detailed, even if not lucid.
Yeah, I came out of that one like whoa, where did that come from. I was a little annoyed that I kept losing awareness. But like you say, I wouldn't even have remembered any of that stuff if not for trying to WILD into sleep.
Going to have to agree with this big time. I don't drink coffee or crazy amounts of tea so I don't need caffeine to keep me alert, however, I find that if I start to think about LDing, very rarely I'll get a headache(like really rare), but, more cases than not, I'll remain awake and can't actually sleep. It's only when I drop the thoughts and quiet my mind that I'll fall asleep pretty fast but then that doesn't benefit me in my quest to get more LDs.
If you are trying to maintain awareness of whether or not you are in a dream throughout the normal part of your daily routine, I think that's the most important thing when trying to induce DILDs. However, if you can maintain a focus on a single thought as you fall to sleep. "Am I dreaming right now." or "This is a dream." Its' much the same thing as keeping the mind silent. At least you are not letting your mind randomly wander. The wandering thoughts is what keeps me awake. Also, you can have intention without thinking as well. Your mind can understand your intent even if you are not voicing it with silent words.
When I'm trying to WILD I like to try and keep my thoughts completely silent so that I can listen for audio. I love it when random voices start popping up and saying things all on their own. To me when that happens it almost feels like the mind just can't stand to be silent anymore and starts forcing words into your mind on it's own accord lol. I have to say, the weirdest thing that happens with audio is when a random voice suddenly shouts your name really loudly in your head. It's startling. Whats even weirder about it is that it's a fairly common occurrence. I've seen others mention it too. I wonder why that happens.
Your WILDs are inspiring though, nice to know that at least someone is able to hang onto his conscience as he drifts off. My best HI might be some purple and green lights spinning around :/
Thanks. The weird lights are cool. If you can work on consistently getting to that stage you should be able to get more stuff too. :)
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Friday-April-8-2011
didn't get much last night that I remember. This is some stuff from when I got home from work.
-Some stuff that I lost as I came out f it.
-I enter a work scene semi Lucid. My boss is talking to me, going on and on complaining about his job. Just before I come out of it he asks if things could get anymore difficult for him. (My boss doesn't complain like that so much. But there is often much complaining from others.)
-I hear a random voice say, "The window is watching us."
-Scene fades in before my eyes. It's my room, exactly as if I was sitting there with my eyes open instead of closed. I look at my dog as she is standing there staring at me.
After that both the dogs start barking because of some noise outside. Probably a car door and they thought someone was here. I decide to give it up. I really didn't want t o fall asleep long since I have to be up so early tomorrow and want to get to sleep a little earlier tonight.
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Saturday-April-9-2011
Not a very good night for WILDing or general recall.
-I enter a funny little scene without Lucidity. It's a dream about WILDing. There is this special room at Mortal Mist (a literal room) set up just for WILDing. There are these black WILDing reclining chairs set side by side along one wall. they are a special technologically advanced chair that have sensors that can read everything that is going on with your body as you go through different stages of consciousness. The chairs will tell you what you need to do as they read what is going on with you. Such as, telling you if you need to focus on relaxing muscles more or what not, and how you should be directing your awareness at any given moment. Like a guided meditation sort of, only very personalized. The room is empty aside from one dark haired woman who is sitting in one of the chairs. The chairs are new to Mortal Mist and the woman is describing and demonstrating how the chairs work to the rest of the forum members by use of a live web cam.
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Great invention. Let's make one. :D
It would be tricky to find a way for the chair to communicate the info without it being distracting.
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Two days of trying to WILD in my recliner. Didn't work all that well. More comfortable than what I'm used to and ended up falling asleep too fast. At least I know I don't need to buy a bed. :) I'd like to get a bigger wider recliner though. Mine is getting old and worn out and not real big either.
Sunday-April-10-2011
-There is some loud clear voice. Can't remember what was said now.
-I enter a scene without Lucidity. It was actually a pretty long little dream sequence I don't want to write all the details but I end up over by the school walking. There are other people walking and there are all these dogs everywhere. I notice this odd expression on this one dogs face as it watches what is going on around it. And the dog just has this odd look to it. It has this really loose furry skin surrounding it's face that adds to it's expression. Then there are these two other little dogs that come running around me. And just then I remember that I'm dreaming and come out of it.
-I feel this sudden wooshing expanding feeling and then I'm able to see the room as if I was sitting in the chair with my eyes open. I view the room for a few seconds before coming out of it.
Monday-April-ll-2011
More clear voices heard. Again don't remember exactly what was said.
I watch a scene of a guy riding and odd looking three wheeled bike down the road.
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Tuesday-April-12-2011
-Laying there, I think there is something else that happens first but can't remember. This scene is really kind of gradual to come in. There is a guy that appears before me and is talking to me. I'm a little distracted here because there is other stuff going on. I can see a kids playground, like with swings and stuff. I'm wondering what the playground has to do with the guy. Then I'm wondering if I'm even seeing the play ground, or if I'm just imagining it. But then it becomes obvious that I'm actually there, seeing it. The playground is in the background. There is a woman and kids there playing on the swing. The setting is a place I know, a place where I was out walking earlier in the day. The guy is still standing in front of me, talking. He is more clear to me now. Blond curly hair. He suddenly turns and walks in the direction of the swing set, where apparently his family is. As he turns, he motions with his hand for me to follow him. And I clearly hear him say, "We've been waiting for you." His comment surprises me and kind of startles me out of it. I lay there for a little bit with eyes open thinking about what had just happened. It was weird.
--Then some image of my kitchen fades in. It's a vivid lingering image. And I just view it kind of surprised that It's not fading away, but it eventually does.
-There is a curvy road on an incline. It looks like maybe a mountain road. There is a rock wall on one side. I view the scene looking up the road. A car comes down the road in my direction The wall is to the cars passenger side. The road curves a little and the car, instead of going with the curve runs right into the rocky wall. Kind of bounces off a little and continues to keep hitting the wall as it comes down the road. then another car comes down the road and does the same thing. Then another and another. And I just watch all these cars running into the wall until I come out of it.
I know there was another little bit longer one but I just can't remember what It was now. Disappointed about that. It's been a little difficult for me to remember some of this stuff sometimes. But can't really take any notes on it because that will make it too hard to get back into that stage. I think that will pass, though, as I keep working at it.
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Wednesday-April-13-2011
There was a lot from last night bit can't remember most of it very well.
There was some work stuff. I remember drifting into a work scene then coming out of it, then going right back into the same scene. I stayed in it for a while, I just remember there was a bunch of stuff going on. But i just couldn't clearly remember it when I came out of it.
-I then get the image of my Mom pushing a shopping cart through a store.( I guess shopping is what Moms do lol.)
-The sound of glass shattering, then seeing broken glass all over the floor. Like a glass plate fell and broke.
-Listening to music playing in my mind I know the song, but not the name or even how it goes. But I recognized the tune from hearing it played at work.
-Seeing myself laying there and looking at my legs and moving them a little bit. (But in actuality I was under a blanket so couldn't have seen my real legs.)
A bit more drifting in and out of HI. Maybe a couple more longer ones too. can't really remember.
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The other night I didn't know how to get into a scene, so I just stood up and walked into it. I had been dreaming already for a while however so it was easy at that point.
Cool. Oh, was that the night with the winged horse? I'll go look again. I should try that one of these times when I get my room to fade in. But the scene always seems so fragile, especially when there is no action going on, that I feel like if I try to move at all it will just slip away. I guess most times it just does that anyway, so can't hurt to try lol.
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Your scenes are so incredibly detailed and well-formed; there should be some way to get into them. It's like you're soooo close...
Thanks. Yeah, I have a good feeling actually. I just have to keep doing it. And I have to get better at the later ones. That's when I have the most trouble staying awake through the process.
I edited my last comment by the way. I think you probably read it before I changed it.
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The other night I didn't know how to get into a scene, so I just stood up and walked into it. I had been dreaming already for a while however so it was easy at that point.
Cool. Oh, was that the night with the winged horse? I'll go look again.
Oh yeah, That was the night with the windy truck ride entrance. That was really cool too.
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That was CWILD; it makes it easy to WILD, but can kick me out of the dreams too quickly. It's weird; I'll start having vibes when I feel completely awake, and can even change position and keep having them.
That is pretty weird. I have a hard time understanding how the caffeine doesn't just keep you too awake to do anything. Maybe if you have been drinking coffee regularly for years it's different. I've never gotten vibrations at all. Some pretty powerful hypnic jerks sometimes though. And those obviously don't do anything to help things along.
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Thursday-April-14-2011
-I enter a scene without Lucidity. It comes on rather quickly I might add. I'm outside the front of my house. There is a low one step high deck off the front door. Crossing the pavement right in front of the step up to the deck, the dogs invisible fencing wire crosses, and goes to the garage. Normally i keep a welcome mat type thing over the wire there so no one trips on it and breaks it. I notice that the mat isn't covering the wire, and the wire is all loose so it would be easy to catch a foot on. I find the mat off to the side and put it over the wire. My dog is sitting on the deck. I take her electric collar off. For a second I think, why am I taking her collar of,f she could get out of the yard. But I only what her collar for a moment, and I realize that it will take her longer than just a moment that to figure out there is nothing keeping her from crossing. I take her collar and hold it near the wire to test and see if I can hear it beeping. What the hell, it's not beeping. Why isn't it beeping? (I check it every day to make sure it's working, and that the battery is good.) But then I remember that this is a dream, and of course it's probably not going to work right in a dream. It fades away. I decide to chance taking a note on this one to make sure I didn't forget it. That did turn out to be a mistake. Woke me too much and had a hard time getting back into it. Didn't try for much longer because had very little time for sleeping.
I can see the United States flag hanging from a pole and slightly rustling from a gentle breeze. My mind was actually wandering a little here and it took me a moment to even realize a scene had appeared before me. then I'm like, hey that's kind of cool I'm actually seeing that. It fades away.
There is a lady with long straight dark hair sitting on a chair or couch. I'm juts watching her. I don't remember exactly what she was doing she is looking down. Maybe at something in her hands. But then she notices me looking at her and suddenly looks up at me. She gives me a couple really odd expressions. The look on her face is a kind of mixture of surprise, annoyance of me staring at her, and questioning what I want. She moves her head in a way that adds to the expression on her face. But then she fades away.
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That is pretty weird. I have a hard time understanding how the caffeine doesn't just keep you too awake to do anything. Maybe if you have been drinking coffee regularly for years it's different. I've never gotten vibrations at all. Some pretty powerful hypnic jerks sometimes though. And those obviously don't do anything to help things along.
I take it when I'm tired and go right back to sleep, so it hits when I'm already asleep.
That's interesting that you've never had vibrations. You have such intense WILD's, I thought it went together. I never had them til I started taking supps. Some people seem to have them just with falling asleep, not even dreaming.
I usually don't get much of the SP stuff at all. Most of the time I just suddenly randomly enter scenes, or just start seeing or hearing stuff. Sometime I'll get a little numb feeling as I'm getting to that drifting off stage. Or more rarely I'll get the expansion or floaty feelings. that's about it.
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Saturday-April-16-2011
-Viewing a work scene. Wow cool. for some reason I'm more fascinated than normal by a work scene WILD. I'm just viewing it thinking about how cool it is that I'm actually seeing it
- I get some audio can"t remember the words. Then I'm kind of thinking about how I was just talking about how I don't get much SP type stuff. Then some weird thing happens. The only way I can think to describe it is that it was like being on a roller-coaster in the dark. Because I didn't have any visual at first. I was moving fast. Like sinking way down through the floor, then flying way high. Then down then high, over and over a few times. I have a sense of my physical body being in the middle and I'm sinking way below it then way above it. Then an odd thing happens I end up in a scene. I'm laying on the floor on my side in my old apartment in Colorado Springs and I'm sinking halfway through the floor. (This is funny because this really happened to me once when I was living there. I was trying to fall asleep on my side on the floor and I had kind of an unintentional WILD. I got the sensation as if I sank halfway through the floor so that it was like the floor was going through the middle of my body. It was one that kind of always stuck with me because of the oddness of the way it felt.
After that I get extremely uncomfortable laying on my back. As much as I wanted to I Just couldn't stay that way anymore. If that continues I'll have to try using the chair again.
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I still haven't managed to fall asleep on my back. I can even be almost asleep, and the vague thought that I'm on my back occurs to me, and even tho I'm not physically uncomfortable at all, I suddenly have to turn over. What is with that, I wonder?
I don't know. I think I read a theory on the forums somewhere that as your body starts to fall asleep it gives the urge to roll over to test if your mind is falling asleep too. Because the body doesn't want the mind to stay awake through the process, or some such thing. Same thing with the itching that can occur to distract you. Don't know if that's true, or how anyone could know it if it was lol. The last couple times I was WILDing in the recliner I ended up falling asleep fairly easily though.
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Monday-April-18-2010
WBTB stuff
Couldn't lay flat on my back last night because of a sore spot. Should have used the chair but didn't feel like getting up and moving stuff around. But did a little bit longer WBTB than I normally would have in the morning. Maybe fifteen minutes, maybe a little longer. The tired hard to WILD and not just fall asleep.
-The WBTB was a little too long. I ended up being too awake. It was a struggle but I eventually started slipping off and I could feel a little bit of the odd numbness coming on. But even then it was hard to go any farther. I was just kind of laying in that in that near drifting off stage for a while without getting any kind of HI or anything. But then I get this awesome expanding wooshing sensation almost like I fall away from myself. I then suddenly find myself standing near the front door of my house Lucid. The main door is open and the storm door is closed. I can see outside through the glass of the storm door, across the porch and into the front door. It's a really intense moment for some reason. It's a really bright sunny day outside and I'm stuck by the beauty of the scene. I stand there looking aout the door enjoying the moment until it fades away.
-Then again, wooshing expanding. Like the ground suddenly opened up beneath me and I fall into a hole. Or maybe even like being sucked away. it's an awesome kind of feeling and I'm back in the same scene. The sense of wooshing motion carries over into the scene. This time I'm just outside the front door of the house though. I walk across the deck and down the step into the driveway. As I walk down the step I remember the last WILD I had in this spot where I had a problem with the dog fencing. Everything is ok with the fence wire and the mat this time. As step into the drive way it fades away.
This time I'm standing in the kitchen opening the refrigerator door. Disappointedly I look into the refrigerator wondering why I get these kind of WILDs I was hoping for something a little more interesting than looking at the contents of the refrigerator. After that I decide to give it up and get up. I didn't think I was going to be able to actually fall asleep again.
There was some more really brief stuff going into my nap but can't hardly remember half of it. There was some Lucid images of looking at the computer screen I know that.
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Tuesday-April-19-2011
-I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm walking through the house. I'm looking for something, can't remember what it was. I trip over something left on the floor, and hypnic jerk causes me to come out of it.
-I'm laying there thinking about what just happened and how to describe it. I think it was a holiday,like Christmas. There is a mess, lots of Christmas crap laying around. That's what I had tripped over and caused me to wake. Wait a second, weird, I'm back in the scene again. How did that happen? Yes it's Christmas. there is a tree in the living room, and lots of junk laying around. What the heck there is a bee buzzing around me this time. What's with the bee. But then I'm kind of like whoa, I'm here, in a Lucid Dream. I feels like a full blown Lucid. I walk into the kitchen in amazement. There is that damn be buzzing around still. I make it into the kitchen and come out of it.
-I enter the same scene again. There is that bee buzzing around again. There is something about that bee. I think it wants to help me stay in the dream. I have to follow it. It wants me to follow it into the kitchen. There is something about the kitchen, in the kitchen there is a way to stay in the dream. i follow the bee into the kitchen, I start opening cupboards and come out of it.
-I enter another scene. I'm writing in blue but I'm not sure how Lucid I was. I think I was at least a little. I'm at Mortal Mist. Mortal Mist looks much like my work. I'm on my way to my WILDing room where I store my WILDs. There is PJ. He has a comment about the WILDs I'm posting Like maybe I'm supposed to be counting them as Lucids. I hear him say a sentence. Can't remember exactly. Something like," What the boss believes... Sentence trails off. Wait a sec It's not Pj. I can see him better now. It's an old boss of mine. he looks at me and holds a hand up and waves. as I watch hm waving at me I come out of it.
I don't think there was anything else.
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Those are so amazing! Maybe pj is right, you should count them as lucids.
Yes you should. Listen to what the boss says!
Ok, Thanks guys. I'll count the first two. I did feel like I was in a real dream in those even though I still wasn't able to maintain it for very long. The last one I'm not sure how Lucid I was so I'll let that one go. I still don't feel comfortable counting most of them though. It feels like cheating somehow. And even as vivid as they are, most of the brief ones still don't feel quite the same as a full blown DILD Lucid. Hopefully I'm working up to that though. Sheesh, It sure would be nice if Lucid Dreaming could become as easy as just closing eyes and stepping into a dream aware.
Wednesday-April-20-2011
-In a kitchen. There is a pan on a burner. I see an arm and hand, as if it was mine. I don't think it's mine though. It's more like I'm viewing this through the eyes of someone else. Because I'm not controlling the arm or hand. I'm just viewing whats happening. The arm holds a package over the burner and dumps something out into the pan. It looks like a frozen cube shaped chunk of beef. Like a cube shaped steak, or roast. When the cube hits the pan I notice how realistic the audio is. It sounds exactly like what a frozen chunk of meat would sound like hitting the pan on an electric burner.
-Something weird and hard to describe going on, I'm a little confused. there is a combination of motion and visual that is just plain odd. But then it normals out sort of. the motion and visual all suddenly comes together and I'm now stationary looking at an odd scene. It's as if I'm laying on my side on the floor next to a bed. I can see underneath the bed through the darkness to the other side. On the other side of the bed is a woman. She is laying on her side on the floor just as I am. and she is looking back and me.
-Never experienced this kind of thing before. I'm in a dream, yet there is no visual. I'm pretty sure I'm standing on a road. before me is just a black wall, or black curtain. I can hear the roaring of a cars engine fast approaching from the other side of the black veil. I think the black veil is going to be pulled away and the car is going to come through and run me down. But then I fade back to wakefulness. I realize that the black veil was the darkness of the back of my closed eyelids. weird.
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It's been an odd few days. No time for anything. Some difficulty concentrating. But strangely enough, recall seems to have gotten better. Can't remember what I was WILDing last night though.
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Wednesday-April-27-2011
-I see a bearded mans face. Then there are all these like TV screens flashing different scenes
-The kitchen again. I watch as someone takes out a package of hamburger getting ready to cook it. The hamburger is green
-The kitchen again. I can see the kitchen table. I can see a box on the table that is shaped like a cereal box. Only I somehow know that it's a box of cookies
Apparently my real fear of this years tornado season was not unfounded. Jesus, the death toll rises every time I look at the computer. And it's only the beginning. I'm a bit worried for my own safety here. I have no decent shelter. Who needs alien invasions. Giant monsters can come out of the sky at any moment and tear your life apart. That's not science fiction, that's reality.
Having difficulty with my power cord now. It has a short or something. Having trouble getting power to my computer, and my battery is shot too. not sure what I'm going to do about that. Maybe I can order or find a new cord for it.
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The way your images are coming, so incredibly detailed and vivid, it's amazing. It's like you're getting better and better at it. Does that lead to being able to transition into them? I don't know. It seems like iadr does this more than anybody, besides you; maybe he has some ideas.
Thank you. Yeah, it was starting to get pretty easy to get into that stage. I'd just close my eyes and after a few moments I'd be WILDing. It was getting easier to stay in them a little longer too. So I think continuously doing it does help, and maybe with extended practice and doing them after WBTBs could lead to doing it right, and not coming out of it. I've had some stuff on my mind though, messing me up a little this week. Have to make sure I get back at it before I lose it too much. I've had some that I didn't post though, because of lack of time. And a couple I didn't want to post.
They are all so weird! I know what you mean about the audio; I get that as much or more as good visuals. (Neither one very much, lately, but your descriptions want to make put more effort into it.)
Yeah it's pretty weird the random things the mind creates during that phase. I love the weird audio too. I hope you keep trying. It's fun. :)
Isn't it awful? I don't think I want to move back down there. They are so much less frequent up here.
Yeah, it's insane. I read that it's been the second worst tornado outbreak in recorded history so far. Every year I seem to have closer and closer run ins with them. So yeah, it makes me a little worried about when the whether starts turning hot here. Last year there was a couple close calls. A big one nearly took out the cabin last summer too. I saw a video of it on TV. It killed a couple people just down the road a ways that were trying to take shelter in a ditch. I'm cleaning out my closet. I have a walk in closet underneath the stairs. Back in there there is a concrete wall that is about four feet below ground level that I could try to hide behind if one came over the house. But I don't know how much good it would do if the house is torn apart and falls on top of me.
Did you see any of these videos?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110428/ts_yblog_thelookout/watch-tuscaloosas-terrifying-tornado (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110428/ts_yblog_thelookout/watch-tuscaloosas-terrifying-tornado)
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Reading your lucid with the bees, I had to comment. Do you know that bees have long been considered messengers of the gods?
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Reading your lucid with the bees, I had to comment. Do you know that bees have long been considered messengers of the gods?
Hi Alice. :) Actually no, I've not heard that one. Hopefully they will come to me and help me with my WILDing more often. :D
Yes I'd be scared of the house falling down around me and trapping me. That almost seems worse than just getting killed.
I hadn't thought of that; our season may be a little later up here, so we may have it worse than usual too in a month or so.
Yeah, I'm putting a few gallons of water under there too, in case I don't get crushed and I'm trapped under there for a while. Hopefully the water jugs will survive too lol. And hopefully it wouldn't take long for them to start digging people out. I heard a couple survival stories of people even abandoning there houses, getting into their cars and to driving away from it. Do you have a good basement or shelter? I looked into having storm shelters installed a couple years ago. I just looked it up online. It looked like you could get one installed for around $2000. That's not bad really. I need one for here, and the cabin too though.
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Saturday-April-30-2011
-I enter a work scene without Lucidity. Some person I don't know is at the door. I let him in. Apparently he wants to change a tire on my bosses car or something. I get my boss. They both go outside to where his car is. i step outside and watch what's going on for a second.
-Another one without Lucidity. It's weird. There is this family I don't know having a funeral for my Dad. there is something significant about this weird car too. It has bright colors. yellow with orange writing or decorations all over it. The colors are significant for some reason too. I'm very suspicious about this family. I have the distinct feeling that they are directly responsible for my Dads death.
-Wish I could remember this one better. I enter another scene without Lucidity. I'm driving my car on the highway and I'm attacked by some demon driving a semi truck.
We have a bit of a battle before I come out of it.
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Yea we have a basement; the thing I worry about is getting all the dogs and cats down there. I guess I could put the cats all in their cat-carriers. Glad I'm thinking about this.
Good. Yeah, good to have a plan. keep it in mind when you hear of severe weather on the way. It seems like the last few years there have been touch downs with practically every storm.
What's a storm shelter like? Is that separate from your house?
Yeah, The ones I was looking at were. They just dig a hole in the ground and put in a little cement room. You just open the hatch go down the steps and wait it out perfectly safe. Kind of like a cheap little bomb shelter. They even put in a phone line but I imagine there would be a good chance of the phones being knocked out.
I guess the biggest danger there is having a big tree or something fall across the hatch so that you can't get out. Maybe there is some kind of fail safe for that, other than the phone line, I'm not sure.
I hate when that happens. :chuckle:
Me too lol. I wonder where that came from.
Thanks for recording these. It keeps reminding me what's possible, even how I've done it a few times. I don't know why it goes away, but it almost feels like it's impossible when it does. I just have to keep trying.
You're welcome. I know what you mean about it feeling impossible sometimes.
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Sunday-May-1-2011
Couldn't do it last night, but got a little bit in my nap.
Standing on a street. Snow is coming down like crazy.
Looking at two trash dumpsters against the wall of a building in an ally. It's like in the heart of a city. The lid for one dumpster is open, the other closed.
There was something else, I think. But can't remember.
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Well if you had your cell phone, you wouldn't need a phone line. And if the door opened inwards, it wouldn't matter as much if a tree fell on it. It would be easier and faster to open in a really strong wind that way too.
Yeah, I thought of the cell phone. I hardly ever use them. I have a cheap one from Wallgreens that I carry around In case of the car breaking down, or when I'm at the cabin. I don't know if the hatch opens inward or not. That would help. Could still be hard to get out if something big fell across the opening.
Tuesday-May-3-2011
Computer wouldn't work yesterday.
-I get this sense of motion. It feels as if I'm turning a sharp corner in a car.Then I am in the car and I stop at some house and there is some discusion with someone at the house.
- I'm looking at the stick shifter of my car.
-I pull into the driveway of a restaurant and park. I get out and start walking inside. On the way in I see somebody that I seem to know and I stop and say hi to them. I go into the restaurant and sit down at the table. There is already someone there waiting for me. It's kind of weird the person is someone from a talk show or something like that.
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Wednesday-May-4-2011
-Sitting outside a house in a vehicle. It's a stake out. I'm part of some kind of group. Police, military, I don't know. We are staking out the house getting ready to assassinate some person. there is a party at the house. Through the kitchen window I can clearly see the target sitting at a table.
-I'm a part of some commando type group again. This time we are down in some under ground complex. It's like some secrete government place. Something happened here, every one is dead. We are here to figure out and solve whatever it was that happened to the people here. And experiment gone out of control maybe. We are in an large chamber investigating the place. There is a big square security door the leads deeper into the place. I open the door. Inside a female zombie with long hair comes stumbling towards me.
-Unfortunately I can't remember the first part of this one. But in the end there is some kind of creature loose under the earth, it's feeding off of something in the earth. As it travels I have a clear memory of watching it cause ripples in the surface of the earth. As if the earth was liquid.
-Watching a person as they wash dishes in a kitchen sink.
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Thursday-May-5-2011
Was going to write that I can't remember any WILDing from last night. But now I remember hearing an sentence. I didn't catch the first part, but it ended in " Three dollar hot dogs."
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I have one like that, a trak phone. It works really well.
Yeah, That's what I have. It does work well. I even used it to call my step Dads cell phone number when he was in Mexico. I actually got through! I thought for sure it wouldn't get someone in Mexico.
A little freaky last night. First storm of the summer and tornado sirens going off and according to the computer funnel clouds had been sighted too. Nothing much came of it though. It blew over pretty fast. Some creepy looking clouds in the sky. I kept RCing because that's how my tornado dreams often start. Looking up at the odd cloud formations.
That sense of motion is always what I'm trying for. If I can get there...I'm 1/10 of the way.
Yeah, I love that. I've had a little bit of that the last couple days. didn't have time to post. though. Had weird one in my nap today. There was a giant stomping and shouting. And with the stomping there would be an odd sense of motion with each stomp. That gave way to a scene in front of a school. A lot of people just walking and sitting around in front of the building.
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Tuesday-November-22-2011
-Experimenting with sort of a new technique of consciously pulling myself in, rather than just passively waiting for something to happen. It's working this time, and I get pulled in pretty quickly. There is this layer that stretches until I break through. And then I sort of plop down into this dimly lit corridor. The walls seem dark, maybe they are painted black. I walk down the corridor. There is a man walking with me. He has what looks like a news paper. he is saying something to me that I don't remember. I think it has something to do with the paper he has in his hand.
-I get some audio, voices. Don't remember what was said. Then a scene forms. Not sure if I'm actually in it, or just watching. It's outside of a house. There is a commotion. It's a crime scene. A lot of people around. the audio that begin the scene is from two cops, or detectives that are standing there discussing the case. I have the impression that someone has been killed.
-I'm suddenly in a scene without Lucidity. I step into my bathroom and close the door. I remember thinking about awareness work. Then I pinch my nose closed to do an RC. I inhale a deep breath through a pinched nose and it startles me out of it.
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Cool. I'm going to renew my WILDing efforts too.
As usual, your WIlD scenarios are so incredibly intense.
Thank you, and good luck. :)
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Wednesday-November-23-2011
-I hear a random voice say something like. "Staying one step ahead." Then I scene fades in I'm at like a little bar restaurant. There is a big sign up on the wall describing specials. There is a woman nearby that I don't see that thinks what's written on the sign is funny. I hear her make a joke saying something like. "Super Sunday Burger." Then she starts laughing. And the laughing goes on and on.
-I enter a work scene. I'm looking down at my hands as I'm doing something. I stop what I'm doing and hold my hands up before me. I wiggle my fingers kind of fascinated that they respond so realistically.
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Lol, it's so freaky, it's like a scene from a David Lynch movie.
Yeah. pretty weird. I don't know if I've seen an David Lynch movie or not. I must have. the name sounds familiar.
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Thursday-November-24-2011
Struggling last night. Couldn't stop squirming around.
-I get some audio. Can't remember the exact words now, even though it was so clear before. Someone asking about a red button. Then a moment later the same voice asking about the red button being locked.
-A similar scene as what happened yesterday. The scene opens and I can see my hands in front of me. My hands are holding onto what looks like a wine glass. I turn and tilt the glass, examining it in fascination.
-There is a man walking down a hall. I'm not exactly in the scene, but my perspective follows him as he walks out into another room. In the next room I see a girl standing by a Christmas tree. The girl crouches down and picks up a wrapped gift from beneath the tree.
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Lol, it's so freaky, it's like a scene from a David Lynch movie.
Yeah. pretty weird. I don't know if I've seen an David Lynch movie or not. I must have. the name sounds familiar.
Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead, etc. A lot of weird ones. Also Twin Peaks series.
Oh. Ok. I've heard of those. Can't remember if I've seen any of them though.
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Friday-November-25-2011
-I enter a scene that has a lot of sexual stuff going on. Don't think I was Lucid, can't remember for sure though.
-After that I got a lot of very brief imagery, too much to recount. Most of it Lucid.
Started having a lot of problems. Been having this problem with my feet sometimes. It's like they feel dry, and whatever they touch is like when you have really dry hands and are handling paper. It drives me crazy, and I can't keep them still for more than a minute. I got some foot lotion that helps some. But not so much last night. Even after I gave up on the WILDing it was driving me so nuts I couldn't fall to sleep at all lol. Finally manged to fall asleep with about two hours left before I had to get up.
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Damn! That sucks. Can't you like put some socks on?
Normally having socks on when I sleep bothers me. But yeah, I think doing that is a little better. I think I slept with my socks on all night last night. I think I'll try putting the lotion on then the socks and see how that works.
I used to never be able to sleep with anything on at all, any bit of clothes would bother me. I had to be completely naked, or else I'd wake up and have to take it off. Now, I wear sweatpants, socks, thermal shirt, fleece cap pulled down over my ears, and in the morning over my eyes...and if I go to bed without all of that, I feel weird and can't sleep.
Lol, I sleep much the same way. Mostly just because I get cold.
Anyway I hope after two hours sleep, tonight should be much better.
Yeah, I passed right out last night. I tried to WILD. I remember I did get something, but I don't remember what it was. Next thing I know it's like five hours later and I wake up still on my back no recall at all. I try a short WBTB. Then sleep about another two hours. There was a lot of dreaming in the last two hours. But they all faded away as soon as I woke up. they tried to come back to me a couple times during the day, but I lost them as suddenly as they came back. I know there was something about being at some house.
I'm pretty beat tonight too. Hopefully I'll have some better recall though. At least I don't have to wake up to an alarm tomorrow. This sucks, but I'll be happy to have my new bathroom when it's done.
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Sunday-November-27-2011
-Early this morning I did a little bit WILDing while trying to fall back to sleep. I got mostly images of my torn up bathroom, and piles of tile rubble.
Interesting to note that the early morning stuff had a somewhat different feel to it.
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That's when I usually try to do it. Man, I am getting nothing. Will renew efforts. I think it helps recall, even if it doesn't work.
That's the most difficult time for me., But i know if I could get better at doing it then I'd probably end of with more successful results more often. Tried a little this morning but just fell back to sleep. I think you are right about it helping with recall.
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Monday-November-28-2011
I enter a scene, don't think I'm quite Lucid. I'm in a restaurant. Can't remember it that well. I was walking along. I remember there was some girl. Then I try to take a drink of something from a cup. It's kind of funny, don't think I'm quite all the way in the dream. Because when I put the cup to my lips I can't feel it. It's like a ghost cup.
I think there was a little bit more but can't remember it.
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I was wondering later--how so?
I don't know how to describe it. The only word that comes to mind is more expansive maybe. But I don't know if that's right.
Tuesday-November-29-2011
A scene appears. I don't even remember what it was of. I'm just sitting there looking at it and trying to think of some way to enter it.
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Wednesday-November-30-2011
Had a feeling I'd be getting images of my bathroom and I was right.
-Scene suddenly opens up and I'm in my bathroom. It last a few seconds and fades.
-Next I'm outside my bathroom door and there are all these tools in a pile. I grab this pressure washer(that's not really there) and I'm walking around spraying water all over the place. It lasts a little while. I kind of fade in and out of the scene as it goes.
After that I had a lot of problems with my feet driving me crazy again, and I couldn't stay on my back anymore either. Took a while to fall asleep. Once I did I had decent recall. But no time for recording.
Bathroom isn't done yet, but bath tub is functional. It's a bit small for me but I'll make it work. I can put my feet up on the edge of the tub, or the wall lol. Forgot how good a hot bath feels. Not had one in just over ten years. Laying there with my head floating in the water it felt so comfortable, I was thinking I could fall asleep like that. Maybe I'll try WILDing in the tub sometime.
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Hopefully one of these days I'll see for myself. I know dreams at different times are different.
Maybe an hour or two before bed try practicing keeping thoughts silent. It might make it a little easier when you go to lay down.
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That seems to qualify as a real dream.
I was thinking that was almost countable. Had a similar one last night. Only I was walking around with a broom instead of a pressure washer.
The bathroom remodeling helped me to get a decent Lucid in last night though. :)
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Yeah, i'm sure I'd wake up pretty quick. I can see the headlines now. "Man drowns while trying to Lucid Dream in a bathtub."
I don't think any bath tubs are really long enough to totally lie down in lol. For average to above tallness people, I mean. They should be! With a built-in pillow on one (or both) ends, and the faucets in the middle.
Yeah, that would be great. But even of there was one long enough it wouldn't fit. At least not without expanding on the wall. Making the hallway narrower instead. We already had to take out the inside shower wall. It's nice having that wall gone. it feels much roomier in there now.
Maybe an hour or two before bed try practicing keeping thoughts silent. It might make it a little easier when you go to lay down.
OK I'll try.
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Hmmm, our bathroom really sucks, maybe it's time to remodel....
It's kind of nice getting a little bit of a change.
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Sunday-December-4-2011
-So tired I start getting clear audio voices the moment I shut my eyes. Can't remember what was said though. Next thing I know it's five hours later still laying on my back.
I do a fifteen twenty minute WBTB in the morning. trying to wake myself up enough to try and WILD, and get some recall.
-Almost do it. I enter a work dream. It doesn't seem like it's Lucid at first, but then I look around and I have this strange thought. I can remember being in another work dream earlier in the night.(No longer actually recalled.) And I'm thinking to myself what was it in that other dream that made me not know I'm dreaming. And I'm looking around as if I'm looking for some kind of anti Lucidity trigger. Then my own thoughts clue me in to the fact that I'm Lucid Dreaming lol. I'm like hey I must know I'm dreaming now if I'm even thinking this. And I'm like wow, this is a dream! and I startle myself out of it.
Happy with some morning WBTB success with WILDing though. If I could get better at doing it then...
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Friday-December-11-2011
-I enter a scene. I don't think it was Lucid. I'm in a store pushing an empty cart down an isle. I'm assuming it's a grocery store, but not really sure. There is some lady in my way and I'm kind of annoyed. When I get close to her and try to get around her she turns and looks at me. She is Asian, and she has a really odd evil looking look to her. I'm kind of taken aback by her appearance.
There was another one. But I can't remember it now.
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I've been doing a short WBTB a lot of days, because I let the dogs out and then go back to bed for a little while. It's worked a couple times. I wish it would work every time. I need to try to focus on WILDing then; I just used some incubation and fell right back to sleep when it worked.
Usually at that time I just end up falling asleep, or I can't keep thoughts clear enough. Tried this morning just fell asleep. Things have been sucky lately. No naps, staying up too late, and not sleeping long enough. Not a good recipe for productive dreaming. Last couple nights trying to WILD. I just wake up a few hours later still on my back. Two nights in a row I slept the entire night on my back because of trying to WILD lol. pretty odd since normally I can't even force myself to stay that way for a very long period of time.
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OK, this is weird--I was just going to tell you I actually fell asleep on my back too. I'm usually just like you--can't stand to stay there. It happened a couple times--not for the whole night, but I at least fell and stayed asleep a couple times.
Maybe you were really tired and doing well with controlling thoughts. :)
Damn, I've been lucid, but I can't remember right now how that related to the back-sleeping. It wasn't during, but might have been afterwards.
Weird.
It might have helped you to be more alert.
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Tuesday-December-13-2011
Same deal last night.
-Laying on my back I start getting audio pretty much right away. At first it's audio kind of on the edge of actually clearly hearing. Then I get a couple very clear spoken sentences. I can't remember what was spoken though. Next thing I know I wake up it's an hour later. I do a kind of an involuntary half hour WBTB.
I lay down on my back again and see if I can get anything. Nope, don't remember drifting off at all. Just had that weird apocalyptic adventure dream before my alarm went off and I woke up still on my back .
Try again tonight. Pretty tired though. Expecting the same kind of result. Had every intention of taking a nap today. But had to do some floor tile shopping after I got off work. Then I wanted to watch the WILD hockey game that started earlier because of playing at home. So I just stayed up. Very proud of what the WILD have accomplished so far this season.
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That's cool you are able to do that. I tried last night, but ended up turning over. More discipline! I know I'll fall asleep eventually. It's weird, because it's just as hard when I'm really tired as when I'm not--the feeling to turn over just comes earlier and stronger, instead of making it easier.
Guess I don't know why I've been able to sleep that way lately. I'll find out if I still have a problem once once my schedule gets back to normal.
:huh: It sounds like you are watching hockey games during your WIlD's!
LOl WILD is the name of the Minnesota team. Maybe they are all Lucid dreamers. Kind of funny talking about the WILD in my WILD journal.
But I suppose it's totally plausible that I'd see hockey during a WILD if I had just been watching a game.
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I did some back-sleeping last night (woke up that way so I knew I had stayed there) and had a little lucidity. I think it does help. (Also prevents wrinkles. ;))
yeah, I've gotten Lucid sleeping in my recliner before too. I know I've had a little bit of Lucidity recently too. Just couldn't remember it very well. Interesting about the wrinkles lol.
Lol it's funny how WILD capitalizes the name too.
Yeah.
I got something last night but didn't remember it. Have had some recall though, at least.
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Monday-january-2-2012
- I enter a scene. I'm not Lucid right away. I'm driving my car down a road. To the left of me is a median, and then traffic coming from the opposite direction. The traffic from the opposite direction becomes a huge pile up. Cars keep coming and coming and crashing. As I watch this I feel like I should do a reality check because it seems like a dreamsign. But then I'm already Lucid and I never RC. I just keep driving along and watching all these cars coming and crashing into a huge pile. There is even a side street where cars are coming and crashing into the pike on the main road. There is an over pass that I drive under. And then something kind of odd. I have one of those moments that usually occurs when awake. Something in this dream has has triggered a bit of recall of an recent unrecalled Lucid. the dream is trying to come back to me but I can;t quite bring it back. I sit in the dream trying to recall the other dream. I just have a flash myself walking up an outdoor staircase that leads to a huge door to some building. But then I startle myself awake when I realize that I should be doing something about this Lucid right now. It's like I knew I was dreaming but it didn't quite fully sink in until that moment.
I try a couple more times during the night but I fall asleep too fast.
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Thursday-January-5-2012
I enter a work scene without Lucidity. There is some problems, people getting in my way when I'm trying to work.
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Damn, I had the exact same dream last night.
lol. Kind of funny, I went into work that day and found myself in about the exact same situation for real.
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Monday-January-9-2012
-I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm walking the dog along the creek trail. There is ice on the trail. I slip on the ice. I get hit with such an powerful hypnic jerk, that had I been sleeping too close to the edge of the bed I likely would have bounced right off onto the floor.
later in the morning I get a little bit of Lucid HI before falling back to sleep, but I don't remember the exact image. I kind of remember something that looks like a paper towel dispenser.
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Monday-January-16-2012
-I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm walking along the side of a road near my house. There are patchy places in the grass. I can see the patchy places being filled in by blue color, like someone is painting it. (There is this painting deal I found on my new computer that I was playing around with a little. I imagine it's something similar to the dreams sketcher.) I start running through a open grassy area, all the while I can see these patchy places being filled in with the blue color.
-I'm viewing a scene without Lucidity. The scene is inside the front seat of a car and two detectives are discussing some homicide case.
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Sunday-April-29-2012
-I enter a grocery store scene. It happens pretty quick, and I come out of it unsure if I had maintained awareness. I soon reenter the same scene, this time Lucid for sure. I immediately find myself surrounded by a bunch of kids, of differing ages. They seem to come from every direction, and out of different isles. They just walk past me. The rush of kids thins out. I walk along for a moment, wondering if I feel like counting this as a real Lucid Dream. Not really though.
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Monday-April-30-2012
-I Lucidly see a very vivid image of my dogs face real close. As I look at it I'm thinking it reminds me of a 3D close up of a face on my 3D TV. The way it comes partially out of the screen as real as if I could touch it.
-I view a scene Lucid. Two women in a sexual situation I'm not going to describe. I closely follow their actions. Possibly even influencing what they are doing, holding myself in the scene for a time.
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Two women in a sexual situation I'm not going to describe
Aww, where's the fun in that :P
Just kidding, it's good to see you posting things these I haven't seen anything from you since I joined so looking forward to see some fun stories from your WILD attempts Caradon :)
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Aww, where's the fun in that :P
Just kidding, it's good to see you posting things these I haven't seen anything from you since I joined so looking forward to see some fun stories from your WILD attempts Caradon :)
Thanks Bluebird. I've posted a few in my Lucid Dream journal last month and the beginning of this month. I've had some DILDing Lucidity since, but nothing I've wanted to count so have not posted. Despite the numbers, last week was pretty promising.
I've been trying to work on WILDing again too. Finally started bringing awareness into the scenes I find myself in. We'll see if I can keep at it this time. Probably not going to post the non Lucid dream entries. I don't know, depends, we'll see. :)
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Thanks Bluebird. I've posted a few in my Lucid Dream journal last month and the beginning of this month. I've had some DILDing Lucidity since, but nothing I've wanted to count so have not posted. Despite the numbers, last week was pretty promising.
I've been trying to work on WILDing again too. Finally started bringing awareness into the scenes I find myself in. We'll see if I can keep at it this time. Probably not going to post the non Lucid dream entries. I don't know, depends, we'll see. :)
Oh, silly me! I completely missed the other thread. I'll be sure to keep an eye on both from now on :) Sounds very promising, lets see if you can expand on your good results so far :D
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Congrats on the WILD :)
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Oh, silly me! I completely missed the other thread. I'll be sure to keep an eye on both from now on :) Sounds very promising, lets see if you can expand on your good results so far :D
Thanks. I have another journal as well. For regular dreams, Just not used it for a while.
Maybe this thread should be called WILD Successes. ;)
Lol, Maybe. Going to start trying harder later in the night too, like after bathroom breaks or what not.
Congrats on the WILD :)
Thanks Rainbow. :)
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Tuesday-May-1-2012
-Scene fades in, Lucid. I'm in a small room. A bedroom, I think. I'm facing the doorway. No door that I remember, just an open doorway to a hall. Two men walk through the doorway into the room. They seem big, but they come through walking side by side. They look exactly the same, as if they were twins. Brown skin, kind of large bellies. But not too overly large for their height. They are both dressed the same, untucked white shirts with buttons down the front. They are each carrying an acoustic guitar. They walk towards me and I come out of it.
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Freaky!
Where does it come from? The eternal question.
I know, I was thinking about how random that seemed. Dream symbolism is so strange and complex. It's like a secret code, or foreign language coming from our own minds that we have to try and understand without any help.
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Wednesday-May-2-2012
Had a lot of trouble. Couldn't concentrate, couldn't sleep. Had some very brief random Lucid HI, and a few Non Lucid Dream entries. Here is one weird one.
-I enter a dream sequence without Lucidity. I'm the owner of some chicken production corporation. I'm at odds with the situation. I need and want the money gained, because I'm now a wealthy person and am happy to be free of those kinds of worries. But I feel terrible about whats happening to the poor chickens in order to keep me in this position. So I'm trying to come up with a humane way to raise and care for the chickens. And to invent a machine that kills them in a manner so quickly and cleanly that the chickens never see it coming, or know what happened to them.
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I'm pissed off because I can't sleep. And I can't sleep because I'm pissed off.
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Don't know what the deal was. Was really tired when I went to sleep. Slept for two hours and got up to use the bathroom. Then was wide awake and couldn't get back to sleep. I gave up after a while. I turned on my computer and made that post and did a little browsing the web before trying again. It was weird, almost like being on too much caffeine. I really had to force myself to sleep, it wasn't easy. Didn't have any trouble when I came home through.
Saturday-May-5-2012
-Laying on my side just trying to make myself fall to sleep. Using the powerful VILDing technique I invented as a kid to fight insomnia. I use the chalkboard version. I visualize the room with the chalk board on the wall. For some reason it's really easy to see this room in my mind. I'm almost instantly transported there. I can physically feel the change as it's becoming more than just a visualization. I'm standing before the chalkboard. I pick up the chalk off the chalk holder ledge. I pay attention to how the chalk feels in my hand, trying to pull myself deeper into it. I feel and listen to the sound of the chalk on the board as I begin to draw numbers. 1 2. By number two I'm pretty much fully into the scene. I know I'm actually seeing the board in front of me. But I'm still right on the edge of coming out of it. I no longer try to draw numbers. I'm just drawing curvy and circular lines across the board, focusing on the drawing. I don't care about VILDing or WILDing. My only care is to get some sleep. All the lines I draw criss-cross and over lap on the board. Making like a big splotch of lines. This big splotch becomes a gateway, or portal. There are bad people that want to come through the portal. For some reason I think they are terrorists. I keep scribbling lines across the portal. I come out of it, shit.
-Freaky image fades in. I get that expanding feeling open up inside me as the image appears before me. The image is a mirror. I'm looking at a mirror and seeing my own reflection looking back at me. I've never had that happen before during a WILD. It doesn't scare me, but it feels creepy. I hold onto it as long as I can, it fades away.
-There is a sequence without Lucidity. There is a ninja set out to kill some people. Can't remember the very start of it very well. I remember the ninja killing one person. Then attacking another. The ninja has a guy on his back on the floor. The ninja is straddling the guy as he is down on his back. The ninja brings up his sword about to impale the guy through the chest. The guy on the floor somehow summons a swarm of magical butterflies. The butterflies attach themselves to the ninjas sword. The metal of the sword blade dissolves beneath the butterflies. I come out of it.
There was more but can't rememeber the rest. Mostly non Lucid stuff, I think. At some point I eventually actually fall completely to sleep. Only to be shortly woken by my alarm.
-I come home very drained. I try the relaxation process I used to use a long time ago prior to trying to WILD. laying on my back. Taking deeper than normal breaths. Counting the breaths. Each time I exhale sending a deeper wave of relaxation through all of my muscles from head to toe. Was going to do this for thirty breaths before the next step. But fell to sleep first.
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When I get hyper sensitive to pillows and sheets feel like small pins IF i can get my head under control its a perfect time for a WILD. There is a degree of tiredness that is useful but its a fine line between a LD or a horrid restless night
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I hate when that happens. Then it seems like everything is bothering you, doesn't it? Like, tiny noises, and how the pillow feels, and the temperature, etc. When otherwise you wouldn't even notice those things.
Yeah, exactly. Then the mood I got into made it impossible. That's why I decided to give up on going to sleep for a little bit and try and alter my frame of mind.
I remember you describing this before now; I had forgotten about it. I think I tried it once and it worked. I'm going to try it again.
There are two places from my past that had chalk boards on the wall that for some reason I can picture in my mind really well. A break room where I once worked. And my 6th grade class room. I usually don't use that one unless I have to, but it really works for me. The original version of the technique was to imagine myself sitting at a desk, or table, at home. Writing big numbers on pages in a note book with a black marker. One big number for each page, then turn the page, or tear it out and crumple it up and throw it.
Too bad it turned into a portal for terrorists! Figures. :shakehead:
I know, that never happened before.
:lmao: I didn't expect that defense.
I know, weird. Some of that stuff seems like it gets really complex. Just had a weird one where people were talking in some foreign language. Don't remember it well enough to describe though.
When I get hyper sensitive to pillows and sheets feel like small pins IF i can get my head under control its a perfect time for a WILD. There is a degree of tiredness that is useful but its a fine line between a LD or a horrid restless night
Had a little bit of that last night. Was having a hard time staying still, kept wanting to move around. Usually if I just give it up and turn over onto my side it's fine. The other night it was worse, couldn't get to sleep for nothing.
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Sunday-May-6-2012
-Scene fades in, Lucid. I find myself standing in my bathroom looking at the bathtub. I focus my attention on the faucet, which is different than the tub faucet I actually have. I didn't notice the difference while I was in the scene though. It looked normal to me. I'm thinking the scene is going to fade out right away, but it doesn't. I wait, wait.. Holding onto that faucet image. It starts to slip away a little bit but I hold onto it, wait a little bit longer. Cool, I'm still here. Then just when I think it might not slip away, it does.
-Suddenly find myself laying on my back on the floor.(I'm actually on the bed.) I'm laynig at the foot of a giant woman. she seems super tall. I'm looking up at her, and she is looking down at me.
-Laying on my back trying to relax when very suddenly... Whoosh! That expansive feeling hits me very powerfully like a suction, or if a fell down or something. At the same moment I can see the room around me. That sudden powerful whooshing sensation startled me out of it pretty quickly.
-I get that expansion feeling again. This time I have kind of an OBE moment. My perspective shifts and I'm viewing myself from just above my head. It's kind of a weird angle to be looking at myself from. The person I feel is supposed to be me doesn't really look like me. In the scene I'm actually sitting up too, with eyes open. I have a white shirt on, that I don't actually own. And I'm watching myself move my arms around. Which I'm not really making myself do. It's not like it was really me at all. But as I was watching it I felt that it was me.
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Monday-May-7-2012
-I see a forest along side a road. Tall narrow white trees standing close together. Bright green leaves. The place looks similar to a place near the cabin. Scene fades away, then comes back again. A little brighter the second time.
-Opening laptop computer.
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I forgot about this til just now--I was trying your technique, and almost as soon as I got some good visualization going, I started getting really annoying scrapy chalk-board sounds! :? It was so annoying I couldn't keep doing it.
But I was encouraged by the realism. Really weird.
Oh. Well that's cool it was working for you. Too bad the audio got too annoying though. Maybe if you try the notebook version, using a marker on pages.
Last night just for fun I thought I'd try visualizing sheep jumping over a fence. Then kind of like what happened to you, I started hearing the sheep. blaaah blaaah. It wasn't overly annoying though, just kind of funny. Other than that I didn't get much of anything Lucid last night. Some non Lucid stuff though.
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Thursday-May-10-2012
-I start to feel motion. It's as if I'm riding my bike and there are dips in the road. Then a scene appears. It's an intersection with lots of traffic.
-Semi Lucid. I hear a voice talking to me. Don't remember all the words. A scene forms around the voice. I don't remember the scene too well either. But as the secene forms I remember the voice telling me that I should have become a drug dealer. Confused by this, I ask why. When I ask the question I come out of it.
-I enter a work scene without Lucidity. I'm working when my boss asks me to come with him. he wants to show me something. Not sure what happens here exactly. I think maybe the scene started to fade away, and then I remembered what was happening was a dream. By now I had followed my boss into the other area. My boss is talking to me and doing something. I'm not sure what exactly. I wasn't really paying attention to him. I was thinking about how this was a dream. Then I'm suddenly surprised that I'm still here, dreaming, and Lucid.
I think there was more that I don't remember. Last night stuff was coming to me a lot easier than the last two nights, I was struggling to get anything. I wanted to try for more but time was counting down and I needed to get some sleep. No nap today.
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Friday-May-11-2012
-Walking with my sister. My sister is talking to me. Don't remember her exact words, but she is telling me a story about weird random things her youngest son says to her. We pass through the entrance to a store. Inside the store, there are lots of people walking around. My sister suddenly stops and turns to me. She says that her arms keep falling asleep. I come out of it for a sec. I'm thinking that the reason I was seeing my sister is because I had gone out to eat with her and her son after work. Now I'm back at the restaurant. I'm sitting at the table in the same place that I was earlier in the day. Thinking about how I might describe this. There is fried chicken on the table. I just sit there for a moment. I get up and walk away from the table. I look around at the people. Back the way I came, I see my youngest nephew standing. He has something weird sticking out of the side of his head. The thing sticking out of his head is a couple inches wide, white, and has a curve in the middle, like and elbow curve. And the thing curves upwards, into the air. I take note of this strange phenomenon, and I come out of it.
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You get deeper into your HI than anybody ever.
Practice practice practice. :)
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Saturday-May-12-2012
-I start going in and out of some brief bike riding images, dark roads and what not. (I've started riding my bike to work most days. Only driven my car one day this week.) I end up entering a scene, sun hasn't come up yet. I'm riding my bike along a dark road. A dark blue cop car comes up along side me and slows down to my speed. I realize he wants to stop me, and mess with me. Aware I'm in a dream I slow down to stop, with the intention of showing this cop who is really in charge. I come out of it before I can have my fun.
Had a semi Lucid moment in my nap today. I was at a mall looking at various shops. I was aware that the mall, the shops, and the items in the shops, were projections of my mind.
But I'm not sure if I was Lucid or what. I wasn't there too long before I woke at any rate.
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Sunday-May-13-2012
Nothing much more than a couple powerful hypnic jerks. That was weird, have not had that happen in a while.
Wanted to try my Luck at some WBTB WILDing, but didn't get much sleep. Stayed up too late and wanted to get up super early and get out to the park. Same thing tonight. But hopefully I can get to sleep a little earlier, and get at least four or five hours in. Had an absolutely perfect riding night tonight. Perfect temperature, and no wind at all. Beautiful sunset. Felt like I could have rode all night long. feels great to be getting into shape again. I'm loving it.
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Welll you've inspired me to get right back into WILDing. Some nice HI and WILD experiences there. Interesting reading about the chalkboard VILDing. It's an excellent idea and I'm going to trawl back through my memories to see if I have any places I can remember particularly clearly. I'm sure I do. Then I'm going to try this technique. I have done it in the past and I do recall it was pretty useful.
Glad to hear you're getting back into shape. I find when I start exercising my lucidity increases hugely. You have the double effect of bike riding also being a huge trigger for your lucidity!
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Welll you've inspired me to get right back into WILDing. Some nice HI and WILD experiences there.
Cool. I'm sure you will have good luck as always. :)
Interesting reading about the chalkboard VILDing. It's an excellent idea and I'm going to trawl back through my memories to see if I have any places I can remember particularly clearly. I'm sure I do. Then I'm going to try this technique. I have done it in the past and I do recall it was pretty useful.
I hope it works out for you. I usually don't use that unless I'm really having a hard time getting to sleep. Like pulling out the big guns so to speak lol.
Glad to hear you're getting back into shape. I find when I start exercising my lucidity increases hugely.
Thanks. Yeah, the better shape I get into the more fun and easier it is to ride. Maybe you're right about the Lucidity. Got Lucid last night. But I was working at it too.
You have the double effect of bike riding also being a huge trigger for your lucidity!
Yeah, I'm hoping riding a lot, combined with plenty of awareness work, and intention to get Lucid. Will really help to incubate a lot of those kinds of dreams. I've had a few good riding dreams already. Just have not hit any big jumps yet. Back in the day, riding overly long wheelies on my bike used to automatically trigger Lucidity too. I hope I will start recognizing that one again sometime.
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Cool. I'm sure you will have good luck as always. :)
I did! Was on a WBTB when I posted that then I went and WILDed. Will post it up later.
I hope it works out for you. I usually don't use that unless I'm really having a hard time getting to sleep. Like pulling out the big guns so to speak lol.
Yeah me too. I have a counting method I resort to only when suffering insomnia and I no longer care about lucidity I just wanna get to sleep!
Yeah, I'm hoping riding a lot, combined with plenty of awareness work, and intention to get Lucid. Will really help to incubate a lot of those kinds of dreams. I've had a few good riding dreams already. Just have not hit any big jumps yet. Back in the day, riding overly long wheelies on my bike used to automatically trigger Lucidity too. I hope I will start recognizing that one again sometime.
Funnily enough I ended up WILDing onto a bicycle last night! Must have been my comment about your bike riding during my WBTB that did it coz I haven't ridden a bike in 20 years :)
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I did! Was on a WBTB when I posted that then I went and WILDed. Will post it up later.
Good deal!
Yeah me too. I have a counting method I resort to only when suffering insomnia and I no longer care about lucidity I just wanna get to sleep!
Yeah, my chalk board method started out as just counting. But it became too easy for my mind to wander while counting at the same time. So I brought visualization into it. I started out by drawing numbers in a note book with a marker. But I started having trouble with the pages of the notebook turning out of control. I'd turn one page, and then all the pages would start turning lol. That got annoying, so I started drawing on a chalkboard instead. even using the eraser to erase the numbers if the board gets full, and cleaning out the eraser too, by banging it.
Funnily enough I ended up WILDing onto a bicycle last night! Must have been my comment about your bike riding during my WBTB that did it coz I haven't ridden a bike in 20 years :)
That's pretty cool. Looking forward to seeing how that turned out.
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Tuesday-May-15-2012
-I hear a male voice. "What are you staring at?"
-I hear another male voice. "Come on lets go!"
-I see a little girl wearing a yellow shirt and big rain boots, dancing around a tree in a forest. The tree is surrounded by a puddle of water. The girl is splashing through the water.
-I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm riding my bike along a park trail. I'm a little confused by the fact that I don't recognize the trail at all. I must have found a new area. I come to a spot where there are people on each side of the trail. The people have paint are shooting at each other across the trail. I ride through and a paint ball comes flying at my face. I'm startled awake, and try to duck at the same time.
-I enter another scene without Lucidity. Riding my bike again. There is a bike/walking bridge over an averaged width creek. I look into the water and I see hippo's. When I see the hippo's in the water I think I had better do and RC. I move to RC and come out of it.
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Nothing the last couple nights. Unable to concentrate well enough.
Planning to take off to the cabin tomorrow afternoon. Possibly sleep out in the tent, not sure yet. I have the camping bug.
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Camping out was a lot of fun, now I have the camping bug more strongly than I've had in years. I spent hours browsing through expensive backpacking/camping gear on The North Face and Gander Mountain websites. Kind of stupid, just a waste of time really. (The time wasted browsing of expensive new items I can't afford, or really even need right now lol.) I do want to get another nice tent eventually though. I got a thing about tents, just love em. Best feeling in the world, laying in my tent, alone, snug in my sleeping bag, in the forest, in the middle of the night. Staring at the ceiling, listening to the creatures, and the wind rustling the trees. just enjoying the moment, until my eyes begin to droop and I slip away content. And I love the sound of the rain on the tent, when it rains. So relaxing. Until the bear comes and tears apart my tent and drags me off into the forest screaming ha ha ha ha.
Mostly just been falling to sleep when I try to WILD lately. That's probably a good thing though. Last night I was able to get a little bit.
Tuesday-May-29-2012
-I enter a scene without Lucidity. I'm at home. I'm walking down the stairs when three girls come walking up the stairs. The girls are in a happy excited mood. I recognize one of them. At the time I knew who she was even though she was not someone I know in waking life at all. She looks at me all excited and happy and tells me that her and her friends are off to hunt down the Texas chainsaw killer. It was odd, the girls were all super stoked about catching leather face. They walk out the front door and into the front yard. I watch them go and I'm curiously thinking, wasn't the Texas chainsaw murders something that happened a long time ago? All over and done with? Then I come out of it.
-Scene fades in. I'm looking at this very strange tubular contraption the likes of nothing I've ever seen before. All I know about it is that it has to do with water. Water runs through the tubes for some purpose only the dream world knows.
-I hear a female voice very clearly say hi to me, using my name.
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Until the bear comes and tears apart my tent and drags me off into the forest screaming ha ha ha ha.
I was actually wondering about this before you wrote it. We don't have bears over here so forgive my ignorance but isn't that a very real possibility? Or is it only if you leave food exposed that the bear might come after the food and then attack you if it feels threatened?
God that sounds good though - the being alone part I mean not the being dragged off by a bear! I like being alone too. More and more as I get older. In theory I'd love to sleep alone in a tent in the wild, but in reality I'd be too scared :sad1: Would be amazing for undisturbed LD attempts though. A FA walking round in the woods in the moonlight would be the shiz!
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You were getting inspired. Besides, think about how much money you saved, cuz you don't need all that stuff!
Yeah, I could use a new day pack though. For taking with me to the parks around here, and when I ride to work. My old one is getting a bit worn. And it never did fit me quite right. It's just a tad small for me. My big one on a frame is still in great shape. I don't have a lot of use for it now though, since I'm not carrying all my gear for hours on a trail anymore.
Yes definitely need a tent. I couple times I've slept out without anything, that is so miserable. So many bugs, and you wake up wet in the morning from the dew and stuff.
That would suck. I like tents. I have two of them now. I have a nice little North Face tent that weighs about two and a half pounds that I always used for back-packing. It went through more than a few heavy storms and never leaked a drop of water. Even with some hail too. I have a newer bigger tent I got for taking up to the cabin that I really like a lot too. I've only used it three times so far. According to the reviews it's very weather proof. But a lot of people were complaining that the poles are not too great and have a tendency to break. But they possibly fixed that problem by the time I purchased mine. But for that reason I'm a little worried the tent won't have a long life span. It'll be a shame if the poles break, it's such a cool design. It's a big five person dome tent, and the rain fly has an overhanging vestibule in the front large enough to put a chair. So with the fly over it it looks just like an igloo. And if it rains you don't even have to close up the front because the over hanging vestibule stands out far enough to keep the rain out of the front screen. And if you know it's not going to rain, you can leave the fly off and then it's mostly all screen, open to the stars. For one person it's a pretty luxurious tent.
People are always going to be the most dangerous thing in the woods, by far. And you are infinitely more likely to get killed on the road driving there than killed by a bear. (Black bears, that is.)
Yeah I know. If I was really worried about the bears I wouldn't do it. Especially having the dog with me. I probably make enough noise with lawn mowers, chainsaw, and four wheeler during the day to scare any possible bears out of the area. But I still think if I did run into a bear, it would be just my luck to find the mean hungry one desperately bent on finding a meal. lol Maybe I should avoid camping in the late fall. :chuckle: I'm more worried about trees, and tree limbs than anything. There is an open area in the front of the property where I can set up to avoid falling trees, too, if I want. Plus the stars are so brilliant out there.
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Hmmm you probably thought my question was silly but you've got to remember we don't have any wild animals that can kill you in NZ - not even snakes, crocs, or poisonous spiders. So there's no cultural understanding of bear behaviour. The only time we hear about a bear is on the news if one kills someone in another country.
I'm glad to hear that you're not really at risk from them :)
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Hmmm you probably thought my question was silly but you've got to remember we don't have any wild animals that can kill you in NZ - not even snakes, crocs, or poisonous spiders. So there's no cultural understanding of bear behaviour. The only time we hear about a bear is on the news if one kills someone in another country.
I'm glad to hear that you're not really at risk from them :)
Oh, I'm sorry Rainbow. Didn't notice your post there earlier, above Moonbeams. Replying below.
I was actually wondering about this before you wrote it. We don't have bears over here so forgive my ignorance but isn't that a very real possibility? Or is it only if you leave food exposed that the bear might come after the food and then attack you if it feels threatened?
Well, it is a real possibility. But statistically a very unlikely one. I've done some reading on bears. From what I've read black bears (which are the only type in my area) almost never attack people. Not even a mother with cubs. But on the very rare occasions that they do, it's for one purpose, and one purpose only, to make a meal out of you. Because they are starve crazed. And that's a scary prospect. There have been incidences of starved black bears breaking into cabins or homes and killing and eating someone inside. But they are normally very timid animals, and easily scared away. Grizzly/brown bears on the other hand (the big scary ones of which we don't have any of around here) almost never attack people with the intention of eating them. They usually only attack people when people accidentally come upon them, surprising them, and the bear attacks to defend it's personal space, or to defend it's food, if one is unfortunate enough to come upon one that is eating something. But once they do attack, that sometimes changes over from a defensive move, to deciding to eat you. It's good to make a lot of noise if you are in an area that may have bears. I've read hikers in Alaska sometimes put bells on their shoes. Then there is the food issue. It's always a good idea not to keep food in or near your tent lol. If in an area with a lot of bears, even tie your food from a tree limb far enough away from the tree so the bears can't climb up and grab it. My brother and I had to do that before, when we went canoe camping for a week near the border of Canada. ("Boundary Water Canoe Area.") They make you watch a bear video, and take a test on it before allowing you a permit to camp there. Bears have a really good sense of smell, even way better than the best dog nose. And of course, there are the super scary giant polar bears. If you see one of those near you, you had better hope you have a large rifle and know how to use it. I watched an episode of survivor man once where he was surviving in the arctic. The authorities wouldn't even allow him to do the show unless he was carrying a bear rifle. Thankfully, those type of bears live far far away from here.
Mountain lions are actually more of a threat. They are known to attack lone hikers, and mountain bikers. But I don't think I have to worry about that much. It could be possible one might wander this far. But it's a very slim chance. And if it did, even slimmer chance I would see it.
I was just being funny when I made that comment about the bear dragging me out of my tent because of all of my animal attack/bear attack dreams I used to post all the time. I was kind of known for them, was even the cause of animals attacking in other peoples dreams sometimes lol. There is even an "When Dream Animals Attack" thread at DV inspired by my journal. :chuckle: You weren't around back then, but I think you may have read a couple of my Lucids were I recognized bears as a dreamsign. If I get any good animal attack dreams I'll post. I still get them sometimes, but with the spring, and especially if doing more camping, those types of dreams will probably start picking up more again.
God that sounds good though - the being alone part I mean not the being dragged off by a bear! I like being alone too. More and more as I get older. In theory I'd love to sleep alone in a tent in the wild, but in reality I'd be too scared :sad1: Would be amazing for undisturbed LD attempts though. A FA walking round in the woods in the moonlight would be the shiz!
It's a lot of fun, very peaceful. I've often gotten Lucid while camping too. I'm hoping to get Lucid on my upcoming camping trips. planning to go next week. Was going to go this week but ended up having to work an extra shift. Oh well, That will just give me more time to put the work into getting Lucid. I was disappointed on my last trip, my recall sucked when I was camping. :sad1: But then I got Lucid right away when I came back. :) :? Oh, forgot to mention. There is a park preserve a mile from my house too, that has camp grounds, and a couple nice sites that I wouldn't mind using on a week I don't go up to the cabin. Pretty much Zero chance of any bears there.
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Oh, I'm sorry Rainbow. Didn't notice your post there earlier, above Moonbeams. Replying below.
Oh no worries. I was just worried that I'd offended you somehow. Thanks for the detailed description about bears. Very educational and interesting.
Yeah I definitely remember that bears are a dreamsign for you and that you've had some lucids from them :)
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Oh no worries. I was just worried that I'd offended you somehow.
Oh no. It's good to know you're worried about me getting eaten alive. :P
And you're welcome. It's always fun talking about bears.
Last night I recalled a dream that I was telling my step dad about a bear that charged down a hill at me. But when the bear got to me it turned out to be friendly.
Funny thing is, I don't remember actually having that dream. Just the secondary telling of it. But I could see it clearly in my mind as I was describing what happened.
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Bears--do an RC!!!
Hopefully I'll remember.
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Tuesday-June-12-2012
Laying on my back trying to WILD. Before long I give up. I'm tired, I just want to go to sleep. I turn over on my side, still trying to keep thoughts clear and stay aware.
Surprised, almost immediately scene appears fully Lucid. I'm sitting up with my watch in my hands. Just sitting there examining the watch, turning it over in my hands, and just being amazed at the situation. I come out of it just for a second, and reenter the same scene. I'm surprised at how long it's lasting. I'm just sitting there. I notice a small string hanging off the watch band, and wonder that's actually there. It finally occurs to me that I should look at the numbers on the watch and see what they look like. I wasn't paying attention to that before. I look at the face. The numbers are kind of faded. But I can make out what looks like a whole bunch of zeros all across the screen face. And I'm thinking, yes, looks like dream watch numbers. Then the scene fades out. I end completely falling to sleep after that.
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Yeah it's funny, sometimes rolling onto one's side is enough to tip the balance towards going to sleep just enough and lucidity hits you just like that.
Good to see your watch featuring more and more in your dreams/lucids. I find my watch is such a strong force for getting lucid.
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Yeah it's funny, sometimes rolling onto one's side is enough to tip the balance towards going to sleep just enough and lucidity hits you just like that.
probably 99 percent of the time I end up just falling to sleep after turning onto my side. Even though I'm usually trying to stay aware anyway.
Good to see your watch featuring more and more in your dreams/lucids. I find my watch is such a strong force for getting lucid.
Thanks. Yeah, I was thinking about looking at my watch in the other Lucid too, before the strange woman came out and told me she she knew it was a dream. Wish I would have remembered to look at it anyway.
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That's a technique I read about, but it was much more complicated than that. I'm going to try it your way. Good idea.
Not sure what you mean. You mean turning over onto the side at the last minute?
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Yes, but it's a lot more complicated than that. It's like a series of movements with your arms that you do on your back, then you turn over and do something, but I think you captured the most important part and why it works. And I see understand it works now, after you describe what you did; I know the feeling of going right to sleep when I turn over from almost going to sleep on my back, but I never have taken advantage of it. I can't remember when or where I read about it.
Oh I see. I'm not sure how I made that work. I turned over and whoosh I was there. It was a surprise. I actually got something brief while on my side last night too, but I don't remember what it was.
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It might be that rolling on your side at the right time pushes the dream body out and away, the motion is one step up on imaging motion and at the point of sleep could be the key. After all we move in out sleep and dont fully wake up.
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Yes, but it's a lot more complicated than that. It's like a series of movements with your arms that you do on your back, then you turn over and do something, but I think you captured the most important part and why it works. And I see understand it works now, after you describe what you did; I know the feeling of going right to sleep when I turn over from almost going to sleep on my back, but I never have taken advantage of it. I can't remember when or where I read about it.
I'm not surprised to hear this is a recognised technique. I've sort of used it without really thinking about it. If I've been lying on my back priming for a while and sleep isn't coming I'll turn on my side and 'pop' I'm asleep and all my priming causes me to become lucid.
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I'm glad you guys are making this work.
For me it's just the normal method for going to sleep lol. I WILD on my back, and when I decide to give it up I turn over onto my side to fall asleep. I always still try to stay aware even on my side, but it doesn't normally do anything for me other than to help me fall asleep faster. Only once in a while I can still get something.
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I'm glad you guys are making this work.
For me it's just the normal method for going to sleep lol. I WILD on my back, and when I decide to give it up I turn over onto my side to fall asleep. I always still try to stay aware even on my side, but it doesn't normally do anything for me other than to help me fall asleep faster. Only once in a while I can still get something.
It's pretty much the same for me. Rolling onto my side is what I do when I've been on my back priming and hoping for a WILD but I just can't go to sleep and eventually I've been trying so long I start to get uncomfortable which makes sleep even less likely. I'll roll onto my side and the new level of absolute comfort will send me to sleep and even if I don't WILD I'll definitely at least have a DILD.
It's like, when you're trying to WILD it's a battle between sleep and wakefulness and they need to have equal sized armies. If you're not focused enough you'll just fall into normal sleep. If you're not sleepy enough you will just stay awake. In the latter situation, rolling onto one's side adds a few more soldiers to the Sleep Army.
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Well it sort of is the same for me too, I mean when I actually try to WILD on my back, which doesn't usually last for very long. But I did this a little bit different. I didn't try so hard to WILD when I was on my back, I just thought about the fact that I would soon be asleep and dreaming, just like MILD. The I made an effort to stay aware when I rolled over; again not like really WILDing, because I wasn't thinking about getting out of my bod and all that, just observing what was happening. So I think it's really a totally different method.
Yeah, that is a different method. I do usually WILD by just observing what's happening like that. I enjoy the random surprises. I guess that's why I don't try to VILD more often. But I don't think I've purposely tried to make it work the way you describe doing it.
Unfortunately I didn't wake up enough last night to remember to try it. I'm going to try it every chance I get.
Cool, I hope it will work out well for you.
We need to make a thread, I think. I know you think it is not very significant but I really think it's worthy of letting people know about. Caradon, do you want me to do that (and give you credit of course) or do you want to?
Oh, go ahead if you want to. You guys seem to have a better grasp of the side WILD concept. :) A new ILD-SWILD. ;-D
It's pretty much the same for me. Rolling onto my side is what I do when I've been on my back priming and hoping for a WILD but I just can't go to sleep and eventually I've been trying so long I start to get uncomfortable which makes sleep even less likely. I'll roll onto my side and the new level of absolute comfort will send me to sleep and even if I don't WILD I'll definitely at least have a DILD.
Wish I could make a DILD happen that easily. :) Mine are more influenced by what I've been doing during my daily routine. Though, a short WBTB can sometimes help me by getting my thoughts refocused on the objective as I go into the next set of dreams.
I know what you're saying though. If my thoughts are not silent enough I'll just end up laying there until I get too uncomfortable to try anymore, and then roll over. But if I can keep thoughts completely silent, and muscles relaxed. Stuff usually starts to happen pretty quickly. But then I'll go in and out of a few scenes and get tired of it, and just turn over to sleep. Still trying to continue, but most times without much success. I think I just got lucky in the instance that sparked this conversation. It will be interesting to see how the experiments work out. I'll see If I can try harder to not lose awareness after turning over. Hmm, wondering how to go about doing that.
It's like, when you're trying to WILD it's a battle between sleep and wakefulness and they need to have equal sized armies. If you're not focused enough you'll just fall into normal sleep. If you're not sleepy enough you will just stay awake. In the latter situation, rolling onto one's side adds a few more soldiers to the Sleep Army.
That's pretty well put.
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Sunday-June-17-2012
-I enter a work scene. Don't think I was Lucid the instant I entered the scene, but I was shortly after. I see Maria. She asks me to help her to get some stuff down from a high shelf. I follow her and just kind of go with it as we get some things down. Can't remember exactly what it was we were getting. I slide out of it, and then right back into the same scene. Don't remember much of what happened the second time in.
It was raining this morning so I slept in really late. Didn't have a nap yesterday because of working too late. I had been awake from 11:00pm Saturday all the way through to 11:00pm Sunday night. And worked a ten hour shift in between. Recall was disappointing, should have done a longer WBTB. I did have some recall in the late morning. And some successful late morning WILDing I probably would have counted could I remembered and understood what happened better.
-I was having a dream about this girl I work with Jenny. Very pretty, blonde hair, 30 I think, though she looks in her early 20's. Half the time I was Lucid. Some of it was because of WILDing into it. And other times I just knew I was dreaming, I don't know. And other times I wasn't Lucid at all. There was a non Lucid part I should have RC'd because I was tripping out off Jenny's car. The door was closed, the window was open, and water was pouring out the window of her car like a flood. I seemed to be the only one surprised by that. I'm asking WTF is up with the car. Someone has a logical explanation, but I don't remember what it was. But then I was Lucid, the most clear Lucid memory of it all. I was standing in the parking lot just looking around at everything. The buildings across the street, and cars driving along the road. Jenny has a bag of chips, she wants me to try them and guess the flavor. I try them I can't tell what the flavor would be called. But they taste very salty. But then I'm Lucid again, I think. Because I'm thinking it's a dream and that's why I can't tell what the flavor is. All I can really taste is the salt, and the crunch. The salt flavor is strong is.
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Monday-June-18-2012
There was a lot I can't remember it all. Most of it pretty brief though.
On my back
-laying there. I feel an itch on my face. I raise my arm to scratch it. I feel so weird. For a second I'm not sure if I moved my real arm or a dream arm. I'm certain it's my real arm, but I feel like I'm still half in a dream. Body feels numb, and I feel like there is something sitting on my chest, getting in the way of me scratching my face. It's not heavy, no weight or anything like that. Just an object sitting there. I come more out of it, looking for the object, but nothing is there.
-Scene appears. I'm eating an apple.(That's different.)
There was a couple more, can't remember them. Then I start getting really uncomfortable, I'm fighting the urge to turn over. I don't want to.
-Scene appears. I'm standing in my bathroom looking at my reflection in the mirror.
On to my side.
- I'm walking through my living room picking up cloths off the floor.
-I watch a girl putting on makeup.
I think there was more on my side too. Then my feet start bothering me. I take my socks off, put lotion on my feet, then put my socks back on. That feels a lot better. I try some more on my side, but I think I just fall asleep. I was hoping for some late morning successful WILDing like yesterday. And with better recall of it, but no luck.
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You did a lot better than I did. :shakehead: It's so difficult to lie on my back, even when I'm not near sleep yet. It doesn't hurt; I don't know what the problem is.
I know, it's weird. Sometimes I have I have a lot of trouble,other times I don't have any problem and I end up sleeping all night on my back.
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Wednesday-June-20-2012
-I hear a very clear voice say. "We don't have any family that..."
-Then I hear the very same voice say another sentence very similar to the previous one about not having any family. Don't remember the exact wording.
-I enter a scene Lucid. (Might have even counted this one had I recalled it better.) I'm in it for a while. I'm in the middle of a crowd of people. Wish I could remember what I was doing. I was going along with the events as I entered the scene. There was something important I was trying to accomplish. But there is something threatening about this crowd of people. It's like they are converging on me or something. (I remember the next part the most clearly.) I decide to give up on following the dream events, and doing whatever it was I was doing. I leap up and fly up above the crowd to get away from them. Then the realization that I'm having a good WILD hits me with surprise and causes me to come out of it.
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If I am using sups I prefer on my back because I can relax my arms in a way that wont give me pins and needles in the long dreams. I have woken up plenty of times from a long lucid when I was on my side to sort out a dead arm.
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Oh really? Do you have better dreams then?
I'm not sure. That doesn't happen too often where I stay that way all night. I used to try WILDing in my recliner so that I would be forced to stay on my back. But I don't do that so much since I have the dog.
If I am using sups I prefer on my back because I can relax my arms in a way that wont give me pins and needles in the long dreams. I have woken up plenty of times from a long lucid when I was on my side to sort out a dead arm.
I've had problems with my arms falling to sleep at night too. I hate that.
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Tuesday-June-26-2012
Both of these occurred after turning onto my side
I enter a scene Lucid. It's a kind of creepy one. It's my home, and not my real home. It resemble my home, but it's a dream. And it's not even really my dream. It's an environment formed by these scary dream people that have come for me. As much as it resemble my home, everything has taken on an evilly ominous look. However, I'm not frightened at all. It was much like in the Hell Raiser movies when someone begins to open the puzzle box and the room goes dark and creepy as the Cenobites make their arrival. And WILDing into the scene was akin to opening the box. Only the Cenobites in my dream, are more like the agents from the Matrix. Only these are agents form the dream world. Out of nowhere two of them wearing dark suits enter the room, just walking in from the hall. I come out of it.
I immediately WILD again.
Most Successful WILD Yet. Counted and posted in with my Lucid Dream Journal
Guess I've proved it's possible to successfully WILD when first falling to sleep. However, it may be different for me since I usually break up my sleeping into two sleep periods. You might say I had an eight hour WBTB before WILDing.
Island in the sky
I enter a scene partially Lucid, I think. It's really strange. Almost like a 3D animated scene. I'm on this small Island that is floating in the sky high above the earth. I have a vague memory of this small animated looking creature waddling along. Everything has an animated type of look to it. But a realistic type of animation. I move to the edge of the island and sit on the edge looking down at the earth far, far, below. Flying some distance below this island, I see this huge bird with a very wide wing span. It's an incredibly beautiful scene and I want to fly with this bird. I know I'm more fully Lucid now because I have no worries about jumping off into the sky. As I sit, I actually lay onto my side and just roll off the edge of the island. The feeling I had as I just rolled off into an open air free fall was amazing. Imitating the bird I extend my arms as if they were wings. I glide along on the wind currents for some time, the bird still some distance below me. The moment is amazing, and beautiful. I then get a burst of energy, and I shoot higher and higher into the sky. The island itself is already some unknown miles above the earth. But i carry myself even that much higher above the island. So that the island is now as far below me as the actual ground was before. And there is still that great distance beyond the island to the the earth below that. Then I completely relax and lean backwards into and end over end tumble through the sky. Tumbling, and tumbling, until I finally come out of it, surprised at what just happened.
This felt different than the usual flimsy unstable WILD's I'm used to. This felt the same as a full blown DILD. And as I came out of it I could tell that I had actually fallen completely to sleep. I'm sure it helped that at no point was I thinking about the fact that I was WILDing. It felt a lot like one of those DILD's where Lucidity smoothly comes over me with no real point of sudden realization. But I know I immediately entered the dream from a waking state.
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That was beautiful!
Thanks. you should of saw it. Amazing place.
That's like the one and only time I rolled over on my side and started dreaming immediately. A different kind of WILD. It's cool that yours lasted so long! It is possible then to make this work.
Yeah it's possible. Hopefully I can get more. Not too much last night
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Another one Counted and posted with my Lucid Dreams. Along with two brief DILD's from last night.
Friday-June-29-2012
Lucid Dream # 21 0f 2012
BS-WILD
No afternoon nap this time. Still something I feel like counting when first falling to sleep. Not as good as the last one though.
I lay on my back for about an hour and just couldn't concentrate well enough to get much, then turned over onto my side still trying to stay aware.
Messing With Vickie
Work scene fades in, Lucid. As I enter the scene people are walking around picking stuff up off the floor. Can't remember what it was they were picking up. I just watch them for a moment, and thinking about how I might describe the scene in my journal. Then I see Vickie come walking along. Vickie is A particularly crabby older lady at my work. I decide I'm going to mess with her. I walk up and stand right in front of her, getting in her way. I say something to her but I can't remember what it was that I said. It wasn't anything sexual or anything like that. I was just being a jerk, to see what would happen. She looks at me all pissed off, wondering what I'm doing. Her facial expressions and reaction are so realistic to how she really is, that for a second I start to doubt if I'm really dreaming and nearly lose Lucidity. But I reaffirm it to myself and continue to bother her for a few moments longer before coming out of it.
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Hey, just got done with the last episode of the first season of "Spartacus". That was really good! It took us a while to get to it, but I'm glad we did, and we already have the prequel so we can start on that right away. I know it's a long time ago now, but I couldn't help but be sad again about that guy dying. W watched all the extras for the show, and he was so excited and hopeful and everything--really a tragedy, he was so young. I hope they can keep the show going without him. I guess you've watched the third season, and know how it turns out.
Good to hear. Pretty awesome stuff, huh? The prequel is really great too. I've not actually seen the third season yet. I watched the first couple episodes, then ended up missing some of it. So I decided to just wait and get the blu-rays off Netflix. That's better than watching it week by week anyway. I should look and see if they have it yet. Last time I looked they didn't. I hope it turned out good. It's different from the other ones since they escaped slavery. So I'm not sure what it's going to be like
Yeah, it's really terrible what happened. It's too bad. :shakehead:
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Looking up "Spartacus" on Netflix, I can't find anything on it at all anymore. Neither the first two seasons, or the new season. Odd. I'll just have to write them and ask them about it. Or just buy it I guess. Wouldn't mind buying "Spartacus" Or "The Walking Dead."
Just found out Dish Network is dropping AMC and will not be broadcasting "The Walking Dead" This fall. And it looks like the best season yet. On the one hand, I'm extremely pissed off about it, and I sent Dish Network a pretty nasty letter, and told them I'm going to be canceling there service. On the other hand, just gives me a good reason to wait for the blu-rays and have a lot more fun watching it all at once. I just don't want to have to wait. Been looking forward to it all year. Shit, I don't even need cable anyway, waist of money. I hardly ever even watch it. To hell with Dish Network.
Wednesday-July-18-2012
Scene fades in. Two crooked cops in a car discussing a stash of illegally obtained cash. I must have been only partially aware because as I watch the scene I felt as if I was having some kind of psychic moment, traveling with my mind and viewing something that was actually happening. But then, you never know... lol.
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Thursday-July-19-2012
This one is almost worth counting, but I don't think I'm going to.
Confusing Delivery
I enter a work scene without Lucidity. There is some kind of delivery and I'm trying to check it in. The delivery guy has three different forms that he hands me. He is telling me about the forms and the delivery. I'm looking at the pages, and listening to what he is saying. I'm confused though. I have no clue what he is talking about, or whats going on with these forms. I start to get really frustrated. But then I slowly recognize the confusing situation as a dreamsign, and I become aware It's a dream. It's kind of difficult for me to maintain awareness though. Part of me feels like I need to finish taking care of this delivery. But at the same time I feel relieved because it's a dream. I can just ignore the situation if I want. It's kind of a back and forth struggle, and I have to keep reminding myself. then I have that feeling again, like the previous night. I'm aware that my body is still laying at home in bed. But I feel like I've somehow projected myself into work. Then my boss shows up. I hand my boss the delivery forms and say. " Here, you deal with this. I'm not even physically here yet." Then I walk away and out of the building. I come out of it.
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I've not yet bought any shows. Looking forward to watching Walking Dead season 3 on Blu-ray now.
Went to see the new Batman yesterday. Kind of a let down. The last one was a lot better. It's too long and slow, and there is hardly any fun Batman action at all. Actually, thinking about it, Batman didn't really do anything in the movie other than get beat up a couple times. In his couple fight scenes he is so slow and cumbersome in that outfit of his, it just looks funny. Wouldn't watch it again. Spider-Man is so much more fun.
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I've started sleeping on the floor again because of an constant achy back muscle on the upper left side of my back. It's like I pulled a muscle in that spot and it always aches. It usually goes away in the summer, then flares up in the winter. But it's been bothering me a lot even in the hottest part of the summer this year. So I've started sleeping on the floor again. And just after a couple of days sleeping on the hard floor it feels so much better. I guess the weight of my body pushing on the muscle is kind of like massaging it. I should go get a professional massage, that would be awesome. I know where there is a place real close by too. I have no idea how much it costs though.
But sleeping on the floor makes it a lot more difficult than normal to stay flat on my back for trying to WILD. And I've not been getting anything on my side. I'll have to start trying harder. I was able to drift into getting a little bit of verbal audio today, before giving into the urge to turn over. I don't remember exactly what was said though.
I got a couple of clear sentences.
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Monday-August-6-2012
In The Tent
I had gotten up in the middle of the night and went outside in the dark for a little bit. Then got back into the tent, and just sat there at the front screen looking out at the dark forest and listening to the forest music for a long time, soaking it all in, and just enjoying the moment. The moon was bright enough I could see some. Not full, but still giving off a decent amount of light.
I finally lay down, on my back. Close my eyes and begin to drift. Scene fades in, Lucid. I'm sitting up at the front of tent again looking out at the forest. It's just how it was a moment ago, only this time it's a dream and I'm fully aware of it. If my dream eyes could have been seen, I'm sure they would have been lit up with the excitement I felt in that moment. looking out at the dark moonlit dream forest, and just wanting to step out into it. But it fades away before i get the chance.
Had kind of a weird WILD experience last trip too I never posted. It was weird because I'm so used to sleeping with earplugs all the time for years, and WILDing in silence.
I don't where them in the tent. I was laying on my back listening to all the forest sounds. When I begin to see a bright flashing white light. On off on off. I know it's HI or whatever. But it's so weird because I can clearly still hear the real forest sounds all around me as if I was still wide awake laying there. And I just lay there listening to the sounds and watching the flashing light.
I think WILDing in the tent could make for some pretty amazing and possibly somewhat scary experiences. Considering what my mind likes to do with bears and other dangerous predators lol. It's tricky to slow my mind down enough though, in that environment, just being so thrilled to be there. Most of the time I'm just trying to stay awake, enjoying the moment, until I start to fall asleep. The night goes by too fast. Maybe with more practice.
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Interesting. I was trying to WILD the other night, and I suddenly realized I could hear Tom breathing, so I put my ear plugs in. Then I was wondering if I could have focused on that, and used that to stay aware as I went to sleep.
Of course I failed anyway, so I should have tried. :?
That kind of sound would just bother me, I think. And keep me awake.
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Friday-August-24-2012
I enter a scene Lucid. I'm on a street observing many vehicles as they drive along. There is a large truck. Semi I, think it was. I'm staring at the front of it as it drives towards. I realize it's going to run me down. Aware it's a dream I don't care and I stand there watching it come at me. I come out of it just before the truck hits me.
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Saturday-September-29-2012
Intended to get to sleep early last night. But for some reason I had a very difficult time falling asleep. Kind of weird. I felt exhausted, and yet wide awake at the same time. Had kind of a weird WILDing moment. More like INRALD maybe.
-I'm laying on my left side trying to relax and fall asleep. I begin to feel an itch on my back. I reach over my shoulder and scratch my back. Only I don't move my real arm. It's only the arm of my dream body that moves. The itch on my back is real, I continue to try and scratch it with my dream body arm, but just can't get the necessary friction needed.
When I get home form work I want to get some more sleep, but was again having difficulty falling asleep. I try something different that I found kind of interesting.
-I'm laying on my side. And with my eyes closed I pretend I'm already dreaming. Behind closed eyes, my physical body becomes the enclosure of a dark room in which my awareness, or dreaming self sits. I find myself literally feeling as if I'm in a pitch black room. I know there is a way out of this dark room, into a world of magic and light. I search for the way out. Gradually, another room appears off to my side. I can see it as well as feel it. The next room over is a brilliant world of color. I can see it through an opening in the wall. I have to try and make my way though the opening. The last thing I remember is trying to will myself through.
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Been thinking about working on WILDing more seriously again, for the new year. Been working on it a little bit the last week or so.
Sunday-December-16-2012
-I enter a work scene Lucid. my boss is talking to me. he is telling me to go up into the ceiling to get something. (They actually store stuff up there.) I don;t remember the detail of what he is telling me. But I end up just kind of following my boss in a kind of fascinated way, seeing where events lead. I fallow him up into the ceiling. There is something up there that he wants me to bring down for some unknown purpose. I don't remember what it was exactly. I kind of remember a bench type thing with boards before I come out of it.
-Then later in the morning I enter another work scene. It's basically the same scene with the same boss nearby. Not in the ceiling, but where we started previously. I didn't feel Lucid as I entered the dream but a part of me must have been. I was working on something and totally screwed it up. My boss is annoyed with me. But without a sense of becoming Lucid I say to my boss. 'It doesn't even matter since this is just a dream anyway" But then I come out of it right away.
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Wednesday-December-19-2012
I got some non Lucid stuff about aliens that I couldn't recall very well after coming out of it.
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Thursday-December-20- 2012
-I see a light fixture hanging from the ceiling swinging back and forth
-I see a long table filled with food in a large room. Surrounding the table and eating the food are knights in chain-mail armor. I see one knight with a long black beard lean over and say something quietly to the knight sitting closest to him.
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Saturday-December-22-2012
-There is a weird scene influenced by Criminal Minds. There is a cult leader with his followers sitting around him in a half circle. Standing behind the half circle is an B.A.U (behavioral analysis unit) agent. There is suddenly much talking among the cult group. And the B.A.U agent is trying to talk over the group. As a result the scene becomes a group of voices all clamoring together indistinctly in my head until I come out of it.
-There is a crazy sequence that I couldn't recall very well about a group of people on motorcycles attacking an RV that is driving down a road. One of the motorcycles gets run off the road and goes flying off a cliff to crash on the rocks below.
There was a couple more before I fell asleep, but I couldn't remember everything.
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Sunday-December-23-2012
-On a ship on an ocean. There is a sea monster. The head of the sea monster is being cut off and dark smoke is flowing out of it's neck.
-There is a car chase. Some agents from the Criminal Minds are being hunted down by one of the serial killers they have been searching for.
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I had forgotten about both of those. That itch thing was weird, kind of annoying.
I'll have to remember to try that second one again. I think I did try it a couple times after that, but couldn't get that same feeling of being in a room like that. Right now I'm just struggling to get anything at all. But making progress little by little. Starting from square one again.
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I'm going to try that one.
Tried it a couple times last night. It felt right, as if I was in a dream in a dark room trying to find my way out. But both times I ended up falling to sleep before I could remember much of anything of significance happening.
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Tuesday-December-25-2012
-I keep going in and out of the same scene several times. Each time it's the same. As I slide into it I have the feeling of being turned upside down. I can then see the blue sky above. But the strange thing is the threads that are woven over me like some sort of screen. Not right on me, but like a screen above me. And I can see through the long strands to the sky beyond.
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Wednesday-December-26-2012
-I'm viewing a scene. Three teenage boys in a car, driving. They are distraught. They have done something, I don;t know what. But the police are everywhere looking for the people that did whatever it was that they did. The kids get pulled over. A cop looks in the window. The cop has bushy curly dark hair, wearing glasses, and appears to be chewing gum. The cop is unaware that the kids are the culprits and the ones they are all looking for. But he notices how nervous and agitated they are. 'Are you guys alright?" The cop asks.
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Thursday-December-27-2012
-There are some unknown people around me having a conversation. I can't understand the words, they sound alien. As I listen I get pulled deeper into it. The owners of the alien voices begin to seem possibly hostile, somewhat malevolent, actually. I can tell they are aware of me, and are also aware that I can't understand what they are saying. But I have the distinct feeling that they are discussing me, and their plans for me. They don't care that I can hear them, knowing I can't understand their words.
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:furious: How obnoxious.
Yeah, it was weird.
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Sunday-December-30-2012
Managed to get some very Lucid HI while kicked back in my recliner. It felt good, however brief. One was an image of a work scene. The other I was holding a towel, cleaning something I suppose. At least that's the feeling I had.
Also had a non Lucid sequence about being taken with a group on board the star ship Enterprise, for a tour of the new movie set. Even though it was the making of the new movie, the ship was still docked in space and we had to travel into space for the tour.
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Monday-December-31-2012
-Sitting in my recliner again. Listening to two voices whispering back and forth to each other. I can't hardly make out what they are saying. But it sounds like they are having a discussion about a boat.
There was a little more but I can't remember it very well. Something about a snowy trail.
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Friday-January-4-2013
-I enter a work scene without Lucidity. I drop some stuff on the floor. I then realize I'm dreaming and the scene begins to fade away, but I focus on the stuff that has fallen on the floor and I pull myself back into the scene. Then I begin throwing more stuff on the floor because focusing on that seems to be helping me to stay in it. It does help for a little while but then I still come out of it.
After that I feel wide awake and just can't fall to sleep. So I say heck with sleeping tonight and get up for a little while and then go into work. Very little sleep in two days. Going to try and get nine or ten hours in tonight if I can get to sleep early enough. Didn't bother trying to take a nap when I got home. Since I have to be up at 3:30am I'm Just going to try and crash at five or six tonight and sleep all the way through.
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Thursday-Jauary-10-2013
A somewhat successful WILD late in the morning.
-I had slept nearly ten hours already. My alarm clock was set to go off in just a few minutes. I was just laying there relaxing with my eyes closed, not really expecting to fall asleep again before the alarm went off. I enter a scene Lucid. I'm standing in front of this entertainment center like cabinet. There are several TV screens built into the cabinet. The TV screens themselves are of some kind of strange silver looking liquid jell. I sink my hand and entire arm into the face of one of the jell screens. Wow, I'm thinking. This is really cool. too bad I have to get up and go to work. I pull my arm back out of the screen. Then I start opening doors on the storage compartments, below the TV screens. There is nothing inside them.
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Seems like you're going the right direction. :)
I hope so. It's not too often I can do any later in the morning WILDing. It would be nice if I could get better at that, because of course that's the best time to be doing it.
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6/26/19
I've been trying to get half way decent at this again. But getting older I'm falling asleep too easily now. Even sitting up in my swilling office chair, where I have slept many nights lately because of an awful back injury. The only thing that makes it better is sleeping sitting up in my chair. But the last couple weeks at least has been good enough to sleep laying down again. But even sleeping sitting up in my chair I'm falling asleep in moments of closing my eyes.
But after a little WBTB this morning I got some lucid audio.
I hear a random male voice say "That will be thirty nine cents."
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6/27/19
Laying on my back in my tent trying to stay aware. I get some non lucid stuff. I can't recall it very good. But I remember some children off to my left playing on a swing set. There was something else going on in front of me, or maybe off to the right. The main something of the experience. But I can't remember what it was. The kids on the swing set to the left was an offshoot/secondary to what was really going on but can't remember it. But I was glad to come out of it remembering something.
A little worried about staying on my back for too long because of my back issues. My back has been feeling better than it has in two and a half years. Kind of scared of reaggravating it again because when it's bad it's horrible and I have to work through it. So I rolled over onto my side after a bit and fell back to sleep.
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I need to read over this again. I don't think I even remember most of the WILD attempts I recorded here. But still makes me kind of sad seeing all of Moonbeam/AKA Sunshine's posts removed.
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6/28/19
In my tent. Laying on my back.
A lady with long dark hair looking at me and shrugs her shoulders while saying. "If only if you could learn to fold your underwear with that kind of skill."
Lol. I never fold cloths at all. I throw them in a pile or leave them in the dryer. I run shirts (pants too if necessary) in the dryer for a few minutes to get the wrinkles out before wearing them. After that little WILD fragment I started thinking about why people ever used to iron cloths. What an annoying waste of time that would be. Sit there ironing shirts and pants.
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Saturday/June/29/2019
In my tent laying on my back, propped up on pillows. I start to see this thin old man. The scene is very vivid. He has a narrow face, grey hair, and grey T-shirt. He is holding this big sack like bag the size of a large dog food bag. He is looking at me and intently speaking to me. But I can't hear his words. His lips are moving but I don't hear anything.
I come out of it and re-enter another scene. I'm in a building with lots of people and I'm watching them walk around. I drift in and out of this scene several times before falling completely to sleep.
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Sunday/June/31/2019
I get a lot of stuff as I stay aware drifting off into my nap. At first I get a lot of what I usually think of as sound impressions. Only way to describe it maybe is the feeling of sounds trying to pop up. Kind of feel them but not quite into it enough yet to actually hear them.
Then I remember some weird stuff about a girl in a glittery pink outfit. Like a ballerina outfit. Twirling around with a magic want, and little sparkly lights flinging around off the magic wand. And I even hear weird magical chime sound.
I end up falling into some nonlucid stuff where someone is telling me in detail about their wnWILD experience that they were just having.
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Tuesday/July/2/2019
I'm laying on my back in my tent propped up on pillows. I'm having difficulty quieting my thoughts, I keep thinking about a lot of shit. but I finally manage to calm my thoughts down.
Very suddenly, randomly, and vividly. The image of a pretty young lady sitting cross legged in the middle of my tent. She has brown hair, a T-shirt. Her hair is braided in one long braid style ponytail behind her back. There are a few strands of hair loose along the side of her head. She is not looking at me directly. She is looking to the side and upwards towards the ceiling of the tent. And she has a smile on her face. She looks happy. (The image was so sudden and powerful and I didn't even feel like I was asleep just laying there with my eyes closed. But it happened so suddenly that is startled me out of it almost instantly. Like someone jumping out form somewhere in front of your face.)
Then I'm just as suddenly in an Island resort type of scene. There is a man 40ish in a kind of yellow orange T-shirt He has a drink in his hand. The glass he is holding looks like a martini style glass. Narrow stem and glass bowl at the top. He comes walking out of a nearby tree-line. And walks right towards me looking right at me making eye contact and has this huge smile on his face. and I come out of it.
Then I enter this non lucid dreamlet. I'm on a street looking at something strange. I don't remember what it was exactly. Well I kind of remember it but I don't know how to describe it. It was something that was laying across the street that seemed odd. I was looking at it thinking that it was something to post in the reality check moment thread. When I have that thought I remember that I'm WILDing and in a dream right now. Upon realization I get this awesome expasnive feeling. And I begin to float upwards flying up over the scene. And I get a monet of that awesome feeling of flying while lucid before coming out of it.
After that I end up falling completely to sleep and waking up from the shark dream a couple of hours later.
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You encountered two strange but happy people. What do you think they might have represented?
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I haven't read your WILD thread until now, I love the detailing drifting in and out.
Do you typically sleep in a tent outside?! That's awesome.
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You encountered two strange but happy people. What do you think they might have represented?
I'm not sure, I was thinking about that actually. What it might have meant. It was kind of weird. Especially the second one with the guy walking right at me with that huge smile on his face. A little creepy lol.
I haven't read your WILD thread until now, I love the detailing drifting in and out.
Do you typically sleep in a tent outside?! That's awesome.
Thanks it's a lot of fun, enjoyable and fascinating experiences even though so far I've only been able to get so far with it. But maybe if I'm persistent with it, eventually...
The tent is actually in my living room. I had a random idea early last winter to set up a tent in my living room. And it turned out to be a wonderful idea, because I love it. And when I feel like I really want to get away from everything, being in there with my noise cancelling headphones, lap top, Netflix, virtual youtube fireplace with wind rain and thunder. And other nature ambience. I can feel like I'm far far away from the world. :) As an added benefit in the winter, on 20 below day. It's super warm and cozy in there when the rest of the house is freezing and can save money on electricity, not using as much lights other than a lamp if I need it, and the computer on. And not needing the space heater sucking up electricity.
But then my back injury suddenly came back with a vengeance, because it was starting to feel better at the time, before I started sleeping in the tent. I was forced out of the tent and had to sleep sitting up in a chair. But it's finally doing better again, I was thinking last night it feels like it's almost healed completely which as bad as it had gotten I didn't think would ever happen without some kind of surgery. Because literally felt like I had vertebrae pulled apart and I could feel the bones grinding together when I moved. But it seems much better now, two and a half years later... Just a little worried it could still easily re-aggravate and be back to square one if I'm not careful. At least I figured out how to help it, by sleeping sitting up in my office chair... I think the chair was pushing on my spine in just the right spot to hold the bones in place. And sitting in it and sleeping in it like that for hours and hours finally was helping it heal.
I just recently started sleeping laying down again, in the tent. But will probably still sleep in the chair sometimes. Especially if there is even the slightest hint of my back causing problems again. Like a nightmare having to work a fast paced job in that condition.
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Thursday/July/4/2019
After my two hour WBTB watching the sun come up. I lay back down and start drifting into work scenes. I'm at my job and barely holding onto lucidity as I feel compelled to do work related things and I have to force myself to stop, telling myself I don't need to do what I'm trying to do because I'm dreaming. I stop and start playing around doing some things to my hands that would destroy them if it was real.
I come out of it and reenter another work scene lucid. This time I enter the scene and I'm naked and partially aroused, and women that I work with all around. I'm standing there everything hanging out and don't care knowing I'm dreaming. Instead I'm thinking it's pretty awesome I entered the dream naked. And I start being all silly walking around "woohoo look at me I'm naked!" Until I come out of it
After that I roll over onto my side just trying to fall back to sleep to get a couple more hours in before work. Maybe If I keep practicing, and especially with the WBTB WILD's I might actually be able to get somewhere with it. In the past I was never any good at getting any kind of WILD stuff after WBTB's. Only when first falling to sleep.
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I like that you're comfortable with your nakedness. When I'm naked in dreams I try to cover up, not out of shame but because I don't want others to feel uncomfortable or afraid. I will have to work at enjoying letting it all hang out.
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I like that you're comfortable with your nakedness. When I'm naked in dreams I try to cover up, not out of shame but because I don't want others to feel uncomfortable or afraid. I will have to work at enjoying letting it all hang out.
You should. I don't care when lucid at least. I've run around the dream world naked quite a few times, lucid, if I think about doing it that is. Just because I can. Kind of funny DC's never seem to care or notice when I do that anyways. First time I tried it I was a little disappointed didn't get any shocked surprised reactions lol.
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I will make it a goal to streak all through my next lucid dream. :bliss:
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I will make it a goal to streak all through my next lucid dream. :bliss:
Try it it's fun. And why not? Though cloths can sometimes be more difficult to remove in dreams than waking life. Should try just willing them off instead of struggling trying to pull them off. Also had times when my cloths just annoyingly magically reappeared on me after I took them off.
I suddenly remembered a lucid from a long time ago. I noticed TwoShadows was at my work, and got lucid somehow. I think I did an RC and then showed her that we were dreaming. I have to find that in my DV journal. Twoshadows put the dream in her DV members dreams journal. One of us or both of us got naked, and suddenly everyone at my job knew they were dreaming too and everyone at my job got naked. Everyone in the building ran outside naked and celebrated being lucid and naked outside in a big nudist lucid party in the parking lot.
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Sunday/July/7/2019
Kicked back in my chair trying to completely silent my thoughts. I want to focus on the audio first because the audio fascinates me. I've been getting the visuals first a lot. I'm pretty tired, it doesn't take long. Trying to stay completely silent and just listen. I start feeling a numbing sensation. I start hearing all sorts of audio. Mostly voices stating random sentences. I can't remember it all. I remember one very clear voice ask. "Are you going water skiing?" The more I listen the more voices I hear until they are all talking together like many people in a crowded room. I then enter a scene, getting the visuals and I'm no in a public pace with a lot of people walking around. The people are not talking, I'm just hearing all of their thoughts. I'm surprised by the odd situation and slide out of it.
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Monday/July/8/2018
It's taking me a minute to quiet my thoughts and listen for audio. I suddenly see an odd image of a kid wearing a gasmask while bouncing a blue basketball on an outdoor basketball court. I know the blue basket ball comes from the squeeze ball I use for my carpal tunnel. Looks like a little blue basketball that I carry around, squeezing to exercise my wrists, it's a squishy rubber bouncy ball I got at Target.
Next I lose awareness and end up in a little dream where I'm talking to these two guys and one of them wants to walk to by the river and smoke a joint. I follow him down some steps below a bridge and he rolls a joint and lights it up. I think I actually gain lucidity for a moment before coming out of it. I almost completely forgot about this one too. It seemed a little involved for just basic HI, but it happened while trying to stay aware when first falling to sleep.
later, after waking for a few hours. I sit in my reclining lawn chair and drift in and out for a while. I remember I voice saying something about English muffins.
I keep drifting in nd out of seeing my feet at the end of the my reclining chair as if I'm looking through my eyelids. One time feeling a sense of motion at the same time. And I'm in kind of a scene where I'm sitting in my chair in motion, moving down a road as if I'm sitting in my chair that is on the back of a truck.
I hear a strange wailing sound that startles me awake and out of my chair. For a moment I think it's my dog having a problem I jump out of the chair to help her. But it was just an audio hallucination. She is laying peacefully next to me.
I see an image of the lawn chair that I'm reclined in sitting empty in an open room. Draped over the back of the chair is also the red hooded sweatshirt that I'm currently wearing, and as wearing at the time I saw the image of the empty chair and shirt.
After that I decide to give it up and make something to eat and enjoy the day. Supposed to het some storms, maybe sit out here on the porch and enjoy the storms. But I really want to watch season three of Stranger Things on Netflix that came out Thursday I've been saving for a time when I can binge watch the entire thing. Was planning to on my days off. But my off time is quickly running out, as it's already after noon on the second day.
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Tuesday/July/9/2019
I woke up at 3:00am without much recall. I was worried if I fell back to sleep I'd over shoot the 4:30 mark and miss the sunrise so I stayed up until about 7:00am before trying to go back to sleep for a few more hours and get some vivid recall. But the long WBTB's seem to be messing me up a little. I didn't even want to try WILDing back into sleep. I just wanted to fall to sleep as quickly as possible so I could get some vivid dreams. But I was having a lot of trouble falling back to sleep and was doing some unintentional WILDing anyways.
I'm just laying on my side, not even feeling very sleepy but trying to force sleep.(I normally work on WILD's laying on my back or reclined in a chair.) Just ttrying to clear all thought and pull myself into sleep.I'm actually kind of annoyed when I just keep on WILDing lol. I'm inside my tent and I keep being able to see the inside of my tent as if I have my eyes open, but I know they're closed. I keep drifting in and out, keeping on looking at the walls of the tent. Eventually I just kind of relax and go with it, and I somehow able to prolong it long enough to(still in the dream) Sit up and look aound the tent. I keep repeating this is a dream inside my head feeling like it's helping me to hold onto the scene. And I'm able to continue sitting in my dream tent for a surprising amount of time before finally coming out of it.
Probably the closest I ever came, to what I would consider at least, to a successful WBTB WILD. Maybe if I keep pushing it I'll eventually get there. I've never consistently worked on it for an extended period of time. Usually working on it for a while and then forgetting about it.
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Whatever you're doing, it seems to be working. I could occasionally WILD a while back. I've tried it recently but fall straight to sleep. Occasionally I'll get some super vivid HI and think, "Yes... I'm dreaming," but the thought always wakes me back up. Hmm. I should perhaps reality check when I wake up from those vivid HIs. Wishing you all the best with your attempts... while secretly hoping your successes inspire a spontaneous lucid dream for me. :peek:
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Whatever you're doing, it seems to be working. I could occasionally WILD a while back. I've tried it recently but fall straight to sleep. Occasionally I'll get some super vivid HI and think, "Yes... I'm dreaming," but the thought always wakes me back up. Hmm. I should perhaps reality check when I wake up from those vivid HIs. Wishing you all the best with your attempts... while secretly hoping your successes inspire a spontaneous lucid dream for me. :peek:
That's about how it works for me too with the HI. I get into it, and sometimes. fully into the dream. But it's so fragile at that point it feels nearly impossible to stay in it. But it seems the more I do it the easier it is to get into it, and sometimes staying in for longer periods. I know it doesn't help that most of the time I'm doing it when first falling to sleep. I'm a rule breaker. :) Those little bits of lucidity are fun and fascinating anyways so I think it's good to keep pushing it. I think I was making a mistake focusing on the audio more, just because it's more difficult for me to recall all the random sounds I hear, and voices/sentences by morning.
Saturday/July/13/2019
I keep drifting in and out of work scenes lucid. Lots of people walking around and I'm just observing the people, fascinated by them. Especially the beautiful women. So I just stare at them. Being lucid and not caring about being polite about staring, I can look all I want... Some of them starting to have kind of freaked out reactions to my bold staring, looking back at me uneasily, and hurriedly putting distance between myself and themselves. And I watch with amusement as they do so.
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Monday/July/15/2019
First falling to sleep I'm surprised at how quickly I begin to hear random sentences popping up in my mind. I don't remember them very well, but I remember just listening to them and not even feeling like I was falling asleep yet. Then I start seeing women in dresses waking around. That's all I remember before completely falling asleep.
Then after a few hours I wake up and sit up for somewhere between fifteen and thirty minutes. I don't remember exactly. The lay there again trying to stay aware. This time surprised again when I start stepping into scenes lucid since it's usually more difficult or me after a short WBTB like this. I kind of float in and out of scenes of being in my home for a minute. Then I'm walking around looking at things and thinking just maybe I'm starting to figure this WILD thing out.Then I somehow lose lucidity, forgetting I'm dreaming I'm in the kitchen opening the refrigerator. I take out a mustard bottle and I realize that I didn't want the mustard I wanted something else. For some reason I find this deserving of a reality check, well why not. Just as I'm starting to do the reality check I remember that I'm dreaming I start to look at my watch and fully expecting something weird to happen knowing I'm dreaming now. I look at at my watch already knowing something weird is going to happen to it. I can't remember what the numbers said but I remember the face of the watch looking different, then I turn my wrist away nd before I look back I come out of it.
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When I WILDed before I usually started the dream in my house. I guess it makes sense to start the dream that way but it's still an annoying step to deal with. I will have to remember the mustard dream sign reality check. Could come in handy in the future.
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When I WILDed before I usually started the dream in my house. I guess it makes sense to start the dream that way but it's still an annoying step to deal with. I will have to remember the mustard dream sign reality check. Could come in handy in the future.
Yeah it happens that way sometimes it's weird, or the seeing through the eyelids thing is weird. It's like the brain knows where you are and creates the room around you. It's better than WILDing into work scenes though, I think. Which happens to me a lot. Especially after I've been working.
Last night/this morning was a bit different. Well some of it was in the house some completely unrelated. And one I might have counted as a true success had my recall of it been a little more clear.
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Tuesday/July/16/2019
I had slept about four hours and woke up for the morning sunrise, staying up about three hours and trying to go back to sleep. I was hoping to fall completely to sleep and get some more vivid recall but spent an hour WIlDing. Before giving up on falling completely to sleep again.
-There was a lot of drifting in and out of scenes. I enter a couple of somewhat extended ones with partial lucidity. They are fantastical little dreams of magic and super powers. I don't recall them very well, but they were fun and I did have some lucidity in them.
-Then another one, full blown lucidity, maybe the most successful WILD I ever had. I wish I had been able to remember all the details better. When I come out of it my recall is vague. But I was running across the land, jumping, parkouring, then I'm flying. My best memory of it is this huge towering rock formation that's as tall as the tallest buildings. The rock formation is in the middle of a wide open landscape. I fly to the top of the structure and stand there for a moment. Feeling that sense of freedom that can only be had in a lucid dream. I leap from the towering rock and flip and tumble through open air, intending to free fall to the land below. But I come out of it before I hit ground.
-I drift into a scene where I'm in my bathroom looking at myself in the mirror I'm fascinated by my reflection and expecting the reflection to take on a life of it's own as I know it's a dream image and not really a reflection. But the reflection pears back at me as I pear at it. And the reflection reaches up to touch it's face as I reach up to touch my face. The only real difference that I didn't really take note of until I come out of it. Is that the reflection doesn't really look like me. And has curly hair which I don't. Also has a few freckles.
-A scene opens up before me. There is a small table with my water bottle sitting on top of it. This time I have the presence of mind to try experimenting with stabilization techniques. I reach out and try to touch the water bottle. I can't feel anything and I realize I'm not really in it yet. But I keep trying and I start to feel the texture of the water bottle on my hand and I'm able to pick it up off the table. I wonder at the feel of the bottle in my hand. I squeeze the bottle and feel my fingers squeezing around the bottle and the way the plastic feels crushing inwards. Focusing on the feeling of the bottle in my hand I can tell I'm being pulled more deeply into the dream. It's working I'm thinking, and I start getting excited about it and it causes me to come back out of it
There was more but those were the most significant. I still wanted to try falling back to sleep as I could have slept two more hours. But I gave it up and got up.
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Tuesday/July/16/2019
-I drift into a scene where I'm in my bathroom looking at myself in the mirror I'm fascinated by my reflection and expecting the reflection to take on a life of it's own as I know it's a dream image and not really a reflection. But the reflection pears back at me as I pear at it. And the reflection reaches up to touch it's face as I reach up to touch my face. The only real difference that I didn't really take note of until I come out of it. Is that the reflection doesn't really look like me. And has curly hair which I don't. Also has a few freckles.
Do dreams like this ever make you consider alternate realities or dimensions that are being tapped or created? I've had quite a few dreams like this that are mundane in setting and narrative but have an eerie realism minus the ONE detail that is different.
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Do dreams like this ever make you consider alternate realities or dimensions that are being tapped or created? I've had quite a few dreams like this that are mundane in setting and narrative but have an eerie realism minus the ONE detail that is different.
Well I'm always thinking about weird things pertaining to the nature of reality and consciousness.
Didn't really think about it with this. That would be really weird if the image in the mirror was an alternate me or something. I've never played with mirrors in lucid dreams. That's something I would like to experiment more with and see what happens. But I can see the image in the mirror just taking on a life of it's own as another dream character. Since it's not really a mirror or actually a reflection at all. I know I've been weirded out a few times looking at mirrors in non lucid dreams.
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I have a fascination with mirrors/glass/reflections due to the connotations behind them of alternate realities.
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Since my last post I've been having more trouble for some reason, mostly just falling asleep fast, or not remembering what happened. I never use to be able to sleep on my back, but can sleep the entire night through that way now, no problem lol. I figured it was just from getting older falling to sleep much easier. But when I hear of much older people than me still getting insomnia I have to wonder a little if it's just age or something else.
Tuesday/July/23/2019
-I start hearing a voice. I don't remember the words. But I remember the feeling of the voice. It was a deep sounding voice and had a feeling of largness in my mind a feeling that grew into a scene of a city opening up. Within the city the voice grew into a giant creature rising up out of the city. And off in the distance another creature grew and rose up. Very reminiscent of something from the Stranger Things.
-I start hearing music. It's beautiful ambient music such as might be in a movie or show. I'm listening to the music as the scene opens up. Again I'm viewing a city, my view point from above, in the air. Off in the distance I begin to hear the sound of a car alarm going off. I'm listening to the music and the car alarm until I come out of it.
False Awakening
Laying there trying to WILD I decide to give up on it and just get up. I get up and go into the kitchen thinking about making something to eat and taking a shower. And then I suddenly wake up and I'm still laying down. Thinking WTF, I was dreaming that? That was weird.
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Bump.
I've been falling asleep too easily most of the time to get much WILDing stuff. But I have started getting a little HI here and there, maybe it will start improving more again.
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Friday/November/15/2019
Laying on my back trying to stay aware. I was having a little more trouble falling to sleep than usual lately. There is a little audio, hearing random voices I don't remember the words. I suddenly find myself standing I a room fully lucid. It's a medieval chamber like something of a kings castle. There is a bathtub and a woman in the bathtub. There are servants around her as she is bathing. As I stand there looking around the scene I'm aware that the scene has been manifested because of the medieval genre shows I was watching on Netflix. I'm not there for very long before I come out of it.
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Saturday/November/23/2019
Laying on my back with my eyes closed. I was just laying there trying to do awareness meditation as I drift off to sleep. Questioning to myself, verbally thinking "What am I doing?" "Laying here with my eyes closed and trying to fall asleep." "Anything abnormal or dreamlike about this moment?" "What am I doing?" "Where am I?" "Just laying here with my eyes closed trying to sleep." While tryin to stay away of any physical sensations.
I suddenly find myself at the store, fully lucid, looking around. There are a lot of people around. ( Maybe I end up here because I had just been shopping for a few grocery items before coming home from work and the store was extra crowded. No doubt because of the up coming Thanksgiving, and Christmas. It's generally busy there on the weekends regardless, no even more so. ) Back to the WILD I see a very pretty dark haired woman with soft facial features. I just stare at her, marveling, appreciating her beauty, and fascinated by my minds ability to create the image of her so perfectly. I watch her until the scene fades and I come out of it. I drift in and out of the same scene and seeing the same woman several times before finally falling completely to sleep.
Doing the verbal/questioning reality awareness meditation while drifting off to sleep is something different that I thought I would try. Normally I just try to keep my thoughts completely silent and listen and watch for the audio and visuals and weird physical sensations to start happening. Unless I'm having too much trouble keeping my thoughts from wander, then I use the my visualizing drawing numbers trick which usually starts pulling me into sleep pretty quickly. Because of focusing on the motion of my hand drawing I think. I'm pretty sure I've gone over that in this journal before. And how I learned that little trick many years ago while trying to overcome insomnia which I had a lot of trouble with when I was younger.
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Wednesday/November/27/2019
INRALD Moment
(I'm not really awake lucid dream)
I was reclining in a lawn/camping type chair that I have. I set it up in my kitchen an was just trying to fall back to sleep. I'm not feeling too good and kind of out of it.
My chair is facing the entrance of the kitchen.
(My kitchen is actually a separate room off the side of the living area that has a doorway. There used to actually be a door on it but I took the door off not seeing any kind of logical purpose to have a door there. And the door just got in the way if it was left open, it swung inward and blocked the kitchen counter and cupboards. It made no sense to me at all why the door was even there, lol. So I took it off.)
Anyways, I'm reclining back in my chair facing the doorway that looks out into the living area trying to fall back to sleep. I start to feel like I have to pee a little bit. I'm thinking about getting up and going into the bathroom. (I have no idea that I've already drifted off to sleep and am in fact dreaming.)
As I'm considering standing up and walking to the bathroom. Randomly, suddenly, the most beautiful tiger comes out of nowhere from around the corner of the living area that was out of view and walks right into the kitchen in front of me.
Needless to say I'm very startled by the sudden appearance of the tiger. My mind is still awake and aware enough to almost instantly realize that this happened because I fell to sleep already and this is a dream tiger. My initial surprise and startlement was enough to cause me to come out of it pretty quickly, unfortunately. The tiger was not threatening in any way it just casually walked into the kitchen from around the corner. It was very large and beautiful. Orange striped, very vivid image.
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Wednesday/December/11/2019
Trying to stay aware as I drift off I lose lucidity as I enter a work scene. Someone is asking me to help them get something down from a high shelf. I notice that there is a step ladder sitting right there, nearby. I point out the step ladder sitting there and explain to them that they could have just used it.
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Okay, I guess I'm going to record this one. Just after mentioning in my dream journal how I want to work on my WILDing more, I close my eyes for a nap and have a bit of WILDing.
As it was after a WBTB so to speak from the last night of Decembers sleeping, as always, I'm dating it as being a part of that nights sleeping.
Tuesday/December/31/2019
In my kitchen kicked back in my swiveling office chair and my feet up on the kitchen table. ( I can do such things as I live alone you know, and no one is here to tell me to get my damn feet off the kitchen table. Or, to quit being some weirdo and take the tent down and out of the middle of the living room. I like my tent I'll keep it there and go living room camping as much as I like thank you. Maybe I'll get some artificial trees to put around it and have a little living room forest to camp in. :chuckle: :headbanger:)
Sitting there eyes closed and drifting off. All of a sudden my kitchen comes into view. I'm looking across the table that my feet are up no and looking around at the kitchen fully lucid, knowing I'm dreaming it. Nothing really comes of it as all I do is sit there looking around at my dream kitchen. But I'm thinking wow, this feels really cool. And I hold onto the moment for a good amount of time. Much longer than I was expecting too. I guess I was expecting it to fade away almost instantly but it didn't, I sat there looking around for a while and after a little bit I was surprised it had not faded away yet. But I did come out of it after a bit, and re entered it a second time. And sat there looking around some more. But then must have fell completely to sleep for a little while.
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I had my tent up in my dining room space this summer. Great minds! lol
That last bit of lucidity, to me, seems like your mind is testing the waters a bit before diving fully in. WILDs can be a wild ride.
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I had my tent up in my dining room space this summer. Great minds! lol
That last bit of lucidity, to me, seems like your mind is testing the waters a bit before diving fully in. WILDs can be a wild ride.
I thought I was the only one that did that, lol. I especially like it when it's really cold out because with the cover on it's super cozy in warm in there compared to the house.
I don't know about that WILD. It just happens that way sometimes. Where the place you are actually in appears around you as if you were sitting/laying there with your eyes open or seeing through your eyelids. I don't know what triggers that, compared to when a random scene opens up around you. A lot of times I end up at my job for some reason.
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Sunday/January/5/2020
I decided to change the title of my WILDing attempt journal to WILD/Hypnagogia journal to encompass all WILD type of experiences. And a lot of what I describe is HI stuff.
I decided to spend the night sleeping in my reclining lawn/camping chair which feels pretty luxurious to sleep in compared to my office chair. It is very comfortable. But I've not been sleeping in it as often because I don't think it's as good for my back as my office chair is.
I'm sitting in my reclining chair, eyes close and before I started to drift off I was thinking about how the chair doesn't put pressure on the right spot on my back the way my office chair does.
Then a woman appears before me, very vivid image. She is maybe 60ish short silver/gray hair that sort of stands up a little on her head in a made up kind of way. She is wearing earrings and a long sort of tight sliver dress. She looks like she has been done up to go out to some important gathering. And in the scene I'm still sitting kicked back in my chair. The woman crouches down as if to make sure I can hear her words. And the woman is commenting on the issues I have with my back as I was thinking of just before drifting off. But as I come out of the scene I can't remember what her exact words were.
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Like the idea of keeping track of hpynagogia that comes along with WILDs. Your post also triggered some HI I experienced last night. Thank you. :D
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Like the idea of keeping track of hpynagogia that comes along with WILDs. Your post also triggered some HI I experienced last night. Thank you. :D
You're welcome. :) Yeah it's all a part of the experience. Sometimes to be honest I don't always know what is supposed to be an actually dream or just HI. There was someone on the forums that would say that in their opinion if you're actually in a scene with a dream body then it's a dream proper, but if it's just images you are looking at and you are not actually in it then it's just HI. But I'm not sure if some of the brief dream scenes I enter even with a dream body are not still HI. But I guess it doesn't really matter what you are calling it.The experience is the experience no matter what name you put to it.
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Thursday/January/23/2020
After a WBTB I'm laying flat on my back in my living room tent and I have another one of those WILDing experiences where it's like I'm looking through my closed eyelids. For a second I think I see motion to my right, then the scene opens up and I'm fully aware what I'm seeing is a dream scene. But the scene is of me laying on my back looking around the inside of my tent as if I had just opened my eyes even though I know have not. And I just lay there looking around until it fades.
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Tricksy WILDs
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Saturday/February/1/2020
I had a weird experience I wanted to get down. It was kind of an INRALD thing only there was no lucidity. I didn't even realize I had fallen asleep. It was after an hour WBTB I was listening to some Cryo Chamber music and then I turned off my computer and lay on my back in pitch darkness in my living room tent. Just listening to the sounds of the house. Random creeks and cracks. The furnace kicking on and what not.
I'm listening to music for a while but I forget that I turned off my computer already. The music suddenly stops and I'm wondering why the music stopped. Suddenly I realize that there wasn't any music at all because I had turned off my computer. I was dosing off and hallucinating the music and the music stopped because I had drifted back awake and didn't even realize I had drifted off and come back at first.
Then I start to hear my little friend breathing next to me and I'm taking comfort in the sound of her breathing, forgetting that she is no longer here. I hear the name tag on her collar jingle as it seems she is moving positions to resituate herself. I start hearing some really strange sounds in the house outside the tent, it's creepy sounds like something is out there. Is it a mouse, sounds bigger than a mouse. An animal? A person? I getting creeped out. Definitely something out there. Whatever it is, it's touching the tent cover and jostling the sides of the tent. I sit up in the dark and unsheathe the machete I have laying there. I sit there in the darkness of my tent wondering what to do as it sounds like there is some creature out there shaking the sides of the tent.
I suddenly fade back awake not realizing I had drifted off and I was dreaming all that.
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Tuesday/February/4/2020
I ended up staying up later than I intended and woke up too early and didn't have much for recall. I tried to take a little nap before having to get up and start getting ready for work.
It happens again, this time fully lucid. I'm laying flat on my back in my living room tent. The sun is up now so it's not pitch darkness in the tent. The scene opens up again, as if I'm in my tent looking through my eyelids or eyes open looking around at the inside of the tent. I'm fully aware I've drifted off and this is a dream scene. But this time for a few moments I end up on the opposite side of the tent, feeling as if I have left my body and drifted over there and looking around from that perspective until I come out of it. I decide to just get up after that and forget about trying to fall back to sleep. Not much time left anyways.
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Wednesday/February/12/2020
After a WBTB I'm laying flat on my back in my living room tent trying to stay aware. I find myself in a scene only partially lucid at first. I woman appears, it's kind of strange. It's like she is a teacher or a guide. We are in a large room with a high ceiling. We are having a conversation about dreaming. And I have this vibe, like she is analyzing me. (If that's the right word I'm thinking of, I'm not sure right now.) I'm more aware at this point and I explain to her that I'm feeling stronger and faster than ever before. My meaning, like something has propelled my focus to an inward direction. She asks me to give a demonstration. So I do, I crouch and leap propelling myself high into the air doing a slow flip through the as I rise. Now completely lucid I land on the ceiling high above and hang upside down looking down at the woman below in a sort of Spider-Man style. And I come out of it. After that I roll over onto my side and fall completely to sleep.
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Very cool. I wish I could encounter knowing beings more often in dreams.
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Very cool. I wish I could encounter knowing beings more often in dreams.
Yeah that was interesting. I wasn't quite sure what to make of that.
Thursday/February/13/2020
After a WBTB I'm laying on my back in my living room tent. I get a little non lucid HI of watching a scene like a movie. There is a woman on a raft on the ocean. There is a large shark I believe to be Jaws from the movie stalking her. She is not yet aware of the shark. I watch as the shark rises up to the surface of the water and I can see it's massive back. I come out of it before anything happens. I gave up after that and just rolled over and fell to sleep.
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I've not been able to work on this for a while because of my back problems. Laying flat on my back was too hard on my back and I wanted to sleep in my tent so was staying on my side more and have not been sleeping in my chair. My back has been better for the most part since not being to work in so long has helped. Lately I've been trying to work on my WILDing again because I need to. And have started having a little success again. But I've been having difficulty resisting the urge to turn over onto my side. Especially after I start to drift off a little and come back, after drifting back the urge to roll over is very strong.
-I enter scene lucid I'm having a conversation with someone outside of a school building. (I think the scene was influenced by watching Vampire Diaries that involves school kids.) I don't remember what the conversation was but I was feeling like I'm in the middle of a successful WILD. I started thinking about how the dream could possibly fade out and end on me. I probably shouldn't have been thinking about that. I turn away from the person that I'm having a conversation with and I look up at the rooftop of the school building. The building is white and looks a lot like the white house. I'm about to leap to the top of the building to get a view of the surrounding area when the dream fades out on me
- I'm watching a female vampire figure with long red fingernails and bright red lipstick and long black her and pale skin. She is licking and sucking on her fingers in a very seductive manner while staring directly at me. As I'm watching her it feels weird. She is so vivid but I don't feel asleep at all. I'm watching her and trying to decide if I've fallen asleep or not because I still feel wide awake and that I'm just laying here with my eyes closed. After a few moments of watching her and trying to figure it out the image fades.
- I'm just laying there with my eyes closed in awareness meditation focusing my thoughts on the question of if I'm dreaming and what I'm doing. Staying very aware of the fact I'm laying here with my eyes closed and if there is anything dreamlike about that fact. I singlemindedly focus on the thought and awareness until I see a woman that is standing in a room fall to the floor and as she falls I get sucked more into the scene. And I realize that the image of the woman falling to the floor
is symbolic of me falling into the dream scene. As I could see her falling, I could both see it and feel the motion of her fall which pulled me into the scene.
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Wednesday/May/6/2020
-I'm lucid and watching a lady in a really fancy white dress as she tends to plants on a deck outside of her house. I'm fascinated. The scene is so real and I don't feel like I'm asleep at all. I watch the way she walks around her deck tending plants and goes back into the house through the sliding door. And then she comes back out and watering more plants. The way she moves is so real, and the details of her dress are so intricate. It's almost like a white wedding dress, and I can see swirling flower like patterns on the silky fabric. I feel so awake, and it seems so real that I begin to question if I'm really seeing something inside my mind, or if I'm actually looking out the window of my house and seeing a neighbor lady on her deck. Because that's what it feels like. Like I'm looking out the window and seeing her across the way out on her deck. But I determine that it really is a scene in my mind and I'm still laying here in my tent with my eyes closed. I just observe until fades.
-I enter scene without lucidity. I'm in my house and walking down the hall to the bathroom. I flip the hall light switch. The light flickers but then stays on. I walk into the bathroom and flip that light switch on too with the same result. The light flickers for a moment then stays on then I come out of the scene.
There was more but that's all I remember very well.
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It's weird how I can be laying on my back for hours feeling perfectly comfortable and cozy watching some movie or shows. But the moment I try to sleep/do some WILDing in the same position I become extremely uncomfortable and just have to roll over onto my side. But that's a good thing I guess, because I'm not falling asleep too easily then. For a while it seemed even on my back I was falling asleep too easy to keep my mind aware as I drift off. But the last few nights I've not been able to force myself to stay in that position long enough. After a while I just want to roll over and go to sleep. But that is the benefit of using the chair, because there is no possible way to roll over in the chair.
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Wednesday/May/13/2020
Laying on my back trying to keep thoughts silent I begin to hear sounds, voices kind of push themselves into my awareness. I don't remember exact words. Then I lose lucidity as I enter a scene unaware. I'm in the back yard with both the dogs running around. No doubt influenced by the home videos I've been watching quite a bit lately and uploaded a few to youtube so far. I'm out in the yard with the dogs and there is snow on the ground like in the video I was watching of them chasing each other around through the snow. Going back into the house/back porch I'm trying to lock the deadbolt on the door and it doesn't feel right. IN reality the door is kind of tricky I have to lift the door while turning the deadbolt, it's kind of a tight fit and doesn't always go easy. In the dream I meet little to no resistance as I'm turning the deadbolt. It's too easy and feels weird to me. I turn the deadbolt back and forth a couple of times trying to figure it out and make sure it's actually locking properly and not broken or something. This is when I remember that I'm trying to WILD and the reason for the weird feeling of the turning deadbolt is because I'm actually in a dream and it's not real. But upon realizing it I come back out of the scene.
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Saturday/May/16/2020
A lot of stuff from last night. But most of it I only remember vaguely. I was watching so much of my puppy videos I kept seeing . And there was a lot of times when I was doing the thing where it seems like I'm looking through my eyelids and looking around. Most of it was lucid, I think. Just observing as stuff opened up in my mind.
One moment in particular that stands out is I was watching myself playing with Lacy and Cody. My viewpoint was from behind myself, and I was watching myself sitting and laying on the floor while the both of them are jumping and climbing all over me and I'm wrestling with them and it was just a nice happy feel good scene.
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Tuesday/May/19/2020
-A scene opens up where I'm standing in the parking lot of a park near where I live. I'm looking in the direction of the street and watching cars drive along the street. I see a guy with a back-pack on his back riding a bike along the sidewalk. I watch while he rides along until I come out of it
-An odd scene opens up where I'm outside the house and some people are working on the side of the house. There is a hole in the wall and they are filling it in with bricks.
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Friday/May/22/2020
As I was trying to fall to sleep and couldn't I had a couple of odd experiences.
-I had my eyes closed and I was pretending that I was a bodiless awareness just floating in this dark space (which is actually my mind with my eyes closed.) I was just trying to stay aware of this space and the feeling of it here without letting my thoughts wander. (I kind of like this technique I might play with it more.) Just floating around trying to stay aware of any light shapes and feelings I have or sounds I might start to hear. A little dreams scene happens I'm not even sure if I was lucid still or not so I'm just going to leave it as black text. I'm suddenly a small child and my dead father has come to help teach me how to leave my body. I remember him telling me that I will be able to step out and enter this other reality anytime. This scenario is all the more odd as in that as it was happening I didn't feel like the child was really me, and that even though I do have a dead father in reality I had the feeling he wasn't my father. The feeling was as if this was happening to someone else and not me, I was more the observer. My father takes my hand and we step away from my body and we walk across the room and right into a wall. We phase right through the wall and beyond the wall is some other reality. But that is when I come out of the dream and I'm wide awake again.
-I'm doing the same thing again. Pretending that I'm a bodiless awareness floating in this dark space. This time I'm perfectly lucid as I feel wide awake and aware of what I'm doing when I become aware of this woman with me inside the darks space inside my mind. It's a very strange feeling as it feels like her and I are in this small space together without much room. It feels even more odd in that I feel wide awake and I can even feel my body laying there. And she is in here with me, we are kind of crammed together almost as if in a box, but there is a little room. She has a ball in her hand that makes noise when she squeezes it. It might have been pretty annoying had I not been so fascinated by what was happening. I'm in this situation for a few moments before coming back to full wakefulness again.
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What is "wild"?
In Russian, this is translated by the word "Дикий" as a "Дикий зверь - wild beast".
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What is "wild"?
In Russian, this is translated by the word "Дикий" as a "Дикий зверь - wild beast".
Yeah, it works both ways for a dreaming technique and that you can have a wild experience doing it, lol. It's really just an acronym we use for lucid dreaming meaning. "Wake Initiated Lucid Dream." WILD for short. It's when you try to keep your mind aware as you drift off into a dream state and enter the dream lucid directly from waking. All manner of weird things can happen.
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I get it. In Russian, it is called "Прямой вход в ОС" - "Direct Input to the LD." Try to get into a lucid dream immediately from a state of wakefulness.
Do you have a topic on the forum about "signs of dream"? With the help of what oddities you become aware of the dream itself.
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I get it. In Russian, it is called "Прямой вход в ОС" - "Direct Input to the LD." Try to get into a lucid dream immediately from a state of wakefulness.
Do you have a topic on the forum about "signs of dream"? With the help of what oddities you become aware of the dream itself.
A lot of the acronyms we use come from the book by Stephen Laberge's "Exploring The World Of Lucid Dreaming" It's a pretty popular lucid dreaming book.
the signs of dreams as you mention we usually call dreamsigns. That is something that came from laberge's book as well. You might be able to find a topic there, probably. But any of them are probably pretty old. You're welcome to start a new topic about dreamsigns if you like. Or signs of dreams which ever way you prefer to say it is of course fine. :) Maybe in general lucid discussion.
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I read Stephen Laberge. From there I know about the "signs of sleep."
Now let's create a theme.
http://mortalmist.com/forum/index.php?topic=10819.0
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Tuesday/May/26/2020
I hear music playing that sounds like it's something from the 1930's or 40's I listen to it for a little while until I come out of it.
There was a little bit of drifting in and out and feeling like there was stuff going on but being unable to remember exactly what it was.
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Wednesday/May/27/2020
-I had a different experience that I was looking through someone else's eyes. I enter the scene and there is another person in my house and I'm just along for the ride looking through their eyes. They walk out onto my porch and get my bike and take it outside obviously getting ready to take my bike for a ride. I remember being kind of annoyed that they are taking my bike out so I don't think I was fully lucid. But I come out of the scene and back to full wakefulness before the person actually takes my bike riding.
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Wild stuff, looking through someone else's eyes. Was it like you possessed the person? I've done that in a few dreams, not during HI that I can remember. That would be something else.
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Wild stuff, looking through someone else's eyes. Was it like you possessed the person? I've done that in a few dreams, not during HI that I can remember. That would be something else.
Yeah that was weird. I never experienced that before, that I remember anyways.
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Saturday/May/30/2020
I was sitting in my swivel chair having difficulty clearing my thoughts enough. I kept thinking about stuff. So I was sitting there for quite a while and beginning to feel pretty uncomfortable.
But then I finally begin to drift off and I'm in a scene without lucidity, I think. I vaguely remember standing in front of a mirror and my reflection being all bloody and destroyed. And after a moment I suddenly thought I was dead. I thought OMG I'm dead! I wasn't scared but surprised and amazed. I thought I was dead and in a ghostly form staring at myself in a mirror but then I came out of it and I'm awake sitting in my chair again.
At this point I give up and take my pillow and heating pad into the porch and go to sleep on my futon couch which is way comfortable. Especially when you consider trying to sleep sitting up in an office chair with your feet on the table, lol.
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lol Like your response to being dead, almost like it was kind of a minor inconvenience.
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lol Like your response to being dead, almost like it was kind of a minor inconvenience.
Lol, well it's not a big fear. I don't think I'd be all that distressed to discover I'm in an out of body state and ready to move on to better things. Especially now that I'm not leaving anything behind. I'd be flipping out though, if my little friend was still here and I couldn't get back to take care of her.
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I've not been doing a lot of WILDing since June and moving out onto my porch. Even sitting up in my chair mostly been just falling asleep but had a little something last night I thought I should write down.
Monday/June/22/2020
INRALD
Sort of without the lucidity. Before going to sleep I was feeling sad and teary and missing my little friend. I called out her name a few times out loud and saying I just want to see you.
Then finally I'm sitting up in my chair with my feet up trying to fall asleep. After a little while I have the urge to get up. I get up and walk toward the bathroom. And there she is my little friend standing there right in front of me kind of crouched in a playful manner looking up at me and her tail is gently wagging back and forth as she looks up at me. I realize then what is happening and that I actually started drifting off and never actually got up out of my chair. Surprised and startled it knocks me out of it.
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Sunday/June/28/2020
I'm sitting in my chair and I start to hear random voices blurting out weird random sentences but now I don't remember what exactly was said. Then I begin to hear a song that is a real life song. As I listen to it I'm wishing I knew the name of it but I don't. It was some old classic rock song.
Then I lose lucidity as I enter a scene and I'm walking down the street with my dog. My dog stops walking, hesitant and I'm not sure why she is stopping. But then I turn and notice a lady walking with a big dog. The lady has moved off to the side to wait for us to pass, but my little dog seems frightened of the larger dog that is why she has stopped. And I come back awake.
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Had some really creepy HI dream while drifting off last night.
There was this witch woman casting spells and opening a portal in the floor. There was like a pentagram circle where a portal opened. This black shadow thing came up out of the portal and latched itself onto the which woman dragging her in. For a moment she is just gone, then I hear her screaming. The witch woman somehow drags herself half out of the portal. And she is begging for help. Screaming and saying she had made a mistake. But the shadow thing rises up out of the portal behind her and engulfs half her body in blackness as the thing drags her back down through the portal. Then she is gone, the floor is just a floor. And I stand there wondering at what kind of eternal horrors she is enduring and what she experienced before trying to escape back to this world that had her in such a state of panic and fear.
Then I come out of it and like wow bizarre. But I'm pretty sure that was influenced by the shows I've been watching lately. The order. Van Helsing. Evil. All have that kind of content. Witches and demons and portals and what not.
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Tuesday/November/10/2020
Need to start trying to work on this more again. Surprised I don't actually get more seeing as how I'm always sleeping sitting up in my office chair now days. It's a wonder, I've started getting so used to it it feels normal having to sleep like that.
Anyways, last night I remember hearing a voice say a random sentence. I don't remember what it was now, I wanted to remember it to write here but don't. I just remember it was totally random and kind of humorous.
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Wednesday/November/11/2020
I just remember a feeling of inner expansiveness as it also feels like stuff is beginning to happen. I think I also heard and couple of random sentences again be fore falling completely to sleep. But not remembering the words now.
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Friday/November/13/2020
A work scene opens up and I see a co-worker leaning towards me trying to whisper something to me like they don't want anyone else to hear what they are telling me. But I don't know what it was that they were trying to say.
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Thursday/December/3/2020
I very clearly hear a mans voice say something to me. I wish I could remember what it was exactly. I remember that it was humorous. And I started thinking about describing the voice and what he had said in my journal here. Then more of a scene opens up but I can't remember that very well now either. There was another person that appeared that came walking out of a building towards me I know that. Not the same person that the original voice came from. It was another person.
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Saturday/December/5/2020
I begin getting that inner expansive feeling. I can distinctly feel my awareness growing/expanding off to the left. Then begin getting the spinning floating sensations like I've not experienced in a while. Then I suddenly find myself in a work scene that opens up and I'm standing by a sink washing hands as that is a pretty frequent thing now a days. I stop and watch people rushing around for a moment. I drift back awake, and then back into the scene again. This time my lucidity is kind of partial for a moment as I'm sort of involved in stuff that is going on around me. Except for in a very distracted manner. A co-worker asks me if I'm alright, because I'm obviously not very focused on the job. "Yeah, I'm fine." I explain " I'm just distracted right now because this is all a dream..." As I say that I become more fully lucid again as I look around at everything. But then I drift back out of it back to waking. Then I kind of drift in and out of it a couple of more times.
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Monday/December/14/2020
A scene opens up. I find myself on foot on a street near to where I live. There is a lot of snow. I watch as a car that looks to be designed for racing drives near to me. The car looks similar to like maybe a Dodge Charger in shape anyways. The car is an odd sort of dull looking baby blue color with a bright yellow racing number on the side but I don't remember what the actual number is. The driver makes a wide turn around the corner to avoid hitting me standing there and plows into and through a bank of snow on the side of the road. And then I come out of it.
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Saturday/December/19/2020
I had woken after a few hours of sleep and got up to use the bathroom and started thinking about some depressing stuff I shouldn't have been thinking about. It made it so I was having trouble falling back to sleep. But I was able to eventually.
I drift into a scene lucid where I'm walking around my kitchen looking at stuff and walk into the room off the kitchen that holds the water heater and furnace and double sinks for the washer and dryer. I just look around and drift back awake.
After a few moments I drift into another scene lucid but I'm just trying to pull myself into sleep rather than making a big deal out of the prospect of WILDing, I just want to fall asleep for another hour and a half or whatever I have before my alarm goes off for work. I begin quickly walking from room to room and continuously shifting my gaze to a new spot quickly looking here then there. I feel like focusing on the feeling of motion of both my movement from walking to room to room, and my shifting visual movement is helping to pull me deeper into sleep. And it's actually working as continue this for some time until I start thinking about how cool it is that I'm sustaining a WILD and that throws off my concentration of focusing on the sensation of motion and causes me to come out of it.
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Sunday/December/20/2020
-I keep hearing what sounds like someone using a piece of sand paper on a piece of lumber.
-A brief scene opens up of someone playing basketball by them self in their driveway, shooting hoops at a net above their garage door.
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Monday/December/21/2020
Trying to fall asleep I keep drifting in and out of this weird scene where I'm laying on my side in a room and looking at a door across the room. Each time I see the door open just a crack letting in some light as if someone is trying to peak in at me. Finally I'm in the scene a little bit longer and I'm very curious about what is beyond the door, and what my mind will create out there. I go to the door and open it and look down a very vivid looking science fiction style corridor. Like how a corridor on a space ship or something might look. All along the walls at intervals I can see beams from floor to ceiling across the ceiling to the floor on the opposite side. I see a person in a bright red shirt walking down the corridor with their back to me, walking away. Fully lucid I'm just like, wow. And I unfortunately come out of it.
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Wednesday/December/23/2020
I watch a weird scene. I'm pretty sure I had lost lucidity as the scene opens up. Two guys in an old beat up pick up truck pull up to an old farm house. Two scraggly looking guys exit the truck and meet the owner of the farm house outside his front steps. They have a conversation. I don't remember the exact words but the guys from the truck are trying to talk the man from the farmhouse into letting them inside the house. And it seems obvious that the scraggly guys from the truck are up to no good. I come out of it before it goes any further.
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Thursday/December/24/2020
-I'm laying at the bottom of a circular shaft made of stone. Feels like an old well maybe, like you see in the movies. With the crank and bucket on a rope. I can see metal rungs randomly spaced and fastened into the stone on the inside walls of the shaft. I can also see thick but short chains dangling from some of the rungs. I just view the scene for a few moments before coming out of it.
-After a brief wake back to bed I'm trying to fall back to sleep and I enter a scene without lucidity. I'm in my home hanging up my new calendar that I recently bought in reality for 2021 on the door wear I hang my calendars. I notice that the mountain scenery picture on the calendar is upside down, weird. I flip the page and the next one is upside down as well. I'm a bit confused because I remember looking through the calendar before and I didn't notice any of the pictures being upside down before. That's when I remember what is going on and that I had entered a dream scene trying to fall asleep. But I come out of it before I can do anything else.
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Just to note I stopped taking my 3 to 5mg of melatonin before going to sleep for a while to see if it might help me with staying alert enough to get more HI or WILDing stuff, and also maybe help get more earlier in the night recall. I've been taking the 3 to 5 mg ( depending on what bottle I happen to have) practically every night before going to sleep for I don't know how many years now.
So I thought I would stop for a while and see what happens. That could be a part of the reason I've been having so much trouble sleeping the last few days, since my brain is so used to having that every night. And of course combined with my thoughts being on overdrive angry at Christmas people invading my privacy and peace of mind has not helped either. But working on getting over that... Need better thought control... Caffeine doesn't help with concentration and thought control either. I'm in the process of cutting back on the caffeine too, again, but I'm not sure if I can get off it completely. We'll see. But I can for sure cut it back to a very minimal once a day thing. But if things start progressing with lucidity I might just get off the caffeine completely again, to help make things progress even more. Still figuring out what I'm doing with that. We'll see how I feel about it in the next month or two...
Saturday/December/26/2020
Didn't get a chance to record this yesterday but wanted to get it down because of being somewhat significant.
Tried taking a little nap for half an hour to forty five minutes before going into work in the morning. Didn't really fall asleep but dozed a little and had this brief little Wake Initiated lucidity. Scene opens up and I'm standing by the same door from previously where my calendar is hanging. I'm fully lucid but I don't remember paying attention to the calendar this time. This time I'm more fascinated by the door itself and what is beyond it. Being aware that I just entered the scene that basically solidified around me becoming realistic as if there. I'm fascinated by the door and I reach out and put my hand on the door knob and I can feel it in my hand. I open the door and I can see the steps leading to the outer door of the house. But still fascinated by the realistic feeling of the door I open and close the door several times just kind like wow, so realistic moving the door and touching it. But then I drift back out of it and see that my alarm clock was just about to go off anyways.
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Wednesday/December/30/2020
-Some random voices. I'm hearing someone say the days of the week. Then hear some maniacal laughter.
-Someone accidentally dumps shredded cheese all over me and looking down at my (Blue shirt) covered in what looks like shredded cheddar cheese.
-Slip on something and fall backwards. Weird swift feeling of motion before being startled out of it.
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Thursday/December/31/2020
-I find myself out on the street in front of my house looking for the mail box. There is lots of snow (as there is in reality at the moment.) The mail box is gone and I'm wondering where it went. I look at the high bank of snow and decided that the mail box must have gotten buried in the snow when the plow came through. I'm going to have to get the shovel and dig it out or I'm probably not going to get my mail.
-Scene opens up, fully lucid. I'm in the hall of my home. Same basic spot as two recent previous WiLDing moments where the door is that I hang my calendar. In reality, I also have my bike in that hall leaning up against the wall.(I've been keeping it there within view because it somehow helps me feel the presence of my lost friend.) When My dream opens up I'm standing there looking directly at the bike. It's not a stable scene at all it feels like it will fade away at any moment and I know it will. I rest my hand on the basket on the back that my friend rides in. And I use my foot to push the pedal, and spin the crank and pedal around. I kick the pedal with my foot several times feeling the motion of it trying to hold myself there for as long as I can. But ultimately fades after a few moments.
-Continuing to try to fall asleep I'm doing a weird thing with my mind that I don't know how to describe. I was playing with the focus of my awareness in different ways which was feeling weird but fun and I'm able to drag myself into a scene which is in a room of a house within a virtual reality zombie apocalypse game I have. I feel like my lucidity at this point as the scene opens up is only partial as I feel a little nervous about the zombies. (The game itself in reality is actually very tense and the zombies are real threat.)
I'm standing there at the bottom of the stairway, and even though I'm saying it felt partially lucid, I know I had some lucidity because I was thinking to myself that it's odd that I would create this place as a dream to WILD into because it's scary. (And I did feel like I purposely brought myself into this particular scene at the time. But had I been fully lucid would not been worried at all, and loved to be lucid in this place... But I stand there nervously looking this way and that expecting a zombie could appear at any moment from any direction and preparing to defend myself. (If fully lucid I wouldn't have been feeling so vulnerable and wouldn't have cared if zombies attacked...) So was kind of weird but pretty damn cool WILDing into that place.
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Friday/January/1/2021
I enter a work scene without lucidity. It's kind of a stressful moment. Then I remember what is going on and that I'm dreaming. I get that total relief feeling when realizing you're dreaming in a shitty situation and knowing none of it matters. But the dream fades shortly after.
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Monday/January/4/2021
After a brief wake back to bed.
Projecting Onto A Dreamers Freddy Bus
I enter a scene with lucidity but what I feel is only partial lucidity since in the scene I believe that I have projected myself into another persons dream.
I'm on a moving bus. At first I'm looking for the little bald man with glasses. I know he is here, but vanishing the moment I turn in his direction. But then I forget about the bald man and think about the persons dream that I have projected myself into. I look out the window of the bus and watch the buildings passing by and I have an odd thought and wonder if the person whos dream this is is always dreaming that they are on a bus when they dream.
Then I turn and look down the isle to the driver in the drivers seat. I only see him from the back, of course. And I only see him as a dark shadow shape, a shadowy silhouette. But I can see that wide brimmed hat of his, and those long blade fingers on the wheel. Of course it is, I'm on the Freddy bus, of course. And Freddy is driving us to some hellish nightmare realm. And I come out of it.
-Took a short nap but didn't get anything for WILDing that I remember.
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Tuesday/January/5/2021
I just remember the tail end of a scene I enter without lucidity. I'm on a ship at sea. It's on old wooden ship like an old pirate war ship. It's dark, storming, lots of rain. Someone in a soaked hooded cloak is grabbed and dragged to the side of the ship and thrown over the side into the ocean.
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Sunday/January/10/2021
-Feeling wide awake as I sit there eyes closed trying to keep my thoughts silent the scene of the kitchen I'm sitting in forms itself and it feels more somehow more intense than usual. I just sit there looking around thinking wow. For a moment it feels as if I might have successfully entered a full blown dream but it ends up fading as usual.
-Almost forgot this one it was cool. I didn't enter a scene at all it was pure sensation. Eve though it still felt as if I was in my chair, feet out I could feel myself floating. I started tilting to the side to my right. It felt really cool and I was wondering if I could turn all the way upside down. And I did. I somehow willed myself all the way over until I was hanging upside down. I enjoy the weird sensation for a moment and then will myself to continue so I did like a full barrel roll back to an upright position.
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Wednesday/January/13/2021
Sitting there eyes closed trying to force myself to fall back to sleep for a while I'm unable to do more than drift a little, sink in and out of almost sleeping. When suddenly my computer appears in front of me on the table. It's a weird feeling, feeling wide awake sitting in my chair and looking directly at my computer sitting there on the table but knowing it's an image from my mind. There is a picture on the screen, like the landscapes they show when first turning it on. I see an image of a river, more of a stream really. And the water is moving across the screen like as if more of a video than a picture. I'm just like wow, and stare at it until it fades.
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Saturday/January/16/2021
I hear a friendly male voice use my name in greeting so loudly and clearly it startled me awake and I nearly jumped out of my chair. It was as startling as if you believe yourself to be alone in a room and someone sneaks up behind you and randomly yells your name in your ear.
It's been a while since I've gotten that powerful an audio. But lately I've been trying to focus more on trying to get the audio first. It takes a lot of concentration since to do so I need to completely silence verbal thought.
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Sunday/January/17/2021
I enter a work scene lucid and I'm walking around pointing out dream characters and dreamsigns. Almost as if I was trying to keep reminding myself. Just walking around the place and each co-worker I see a I say to myself "You're a dream character. You're a dream character. This is a dreamsign. That's a dreamsign." Then it suddenly dawns on me that I've been walking around here doing this for a while now and I get excited thinking I'm successfully WILDing, actually staying in it. But my sudden excitement causes me to wake up.
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Tuesday/January/19/2021
I was having trouble falling to sleep. My mind kept wandering but at least I was mostly thinking about lucid dreaming stuff maybe that helped me to be lucid when I finally fell to sleep.
-I lose lucidity as I enter a scene where I'm laying on my back on a bed. And there she is again, my lost friend. Laying there with me curled up near the end of the bed near my feet. I reach out with my foot and scratch behind her ear my my toe and I come out of it. I was pretty amazed that she just appeared again like that. And thinking about it, kept me awake a while longer.
-I hear a voice speak a sentence I couldn't make out the words clearly but the sound of it had a bit of an echo to it as if it was spoken in open place like a cathedral or church or music hall or something. I was thinking of it as a church. Then very clearly I hear the sound of someone coughing a few times. "Cough cough cough." the sound of the coughing has that same sort of echo to it as if in a church where everyone is quiet, then a persons sudden coughing in the silence.
-Then I begin to clearly hear music. Weird sounding music that sounds like it could be the theme music to the start of a TV news broadcast. As I listen to it that's how I'm thinking of it, as the start of the news broadcast. Then the scene forms and it's my living room. I'm in front of the TV which is playing the news on it. Only the news anchor person or what ever you call them is not on the TV set. It's a woman and she is standing in the room just off to the side of the TV with a microphone in her hand describing the news as it's being shown on the screen. But the scene fades pretty quickly.
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That last part brings new meaning to the term live broadcast.
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Lol, I guess you're right.
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Thursday/April/29/2021
A brief late morning WILD where I enter a work scene lucid and I see someone doing something ridiculously wrong. I'm thinking that is definitely a dream. I watch them with humor as they continue with their ridiculous task. I'm kind of surprised when the scene doesn't immediately fade away and I'm able to continue watching them for a little bit before it finally does fade away.
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Tuesday/May/4/2021
I couldn't sleep and I kept drifting in and out of weird scenes.
-There was a series of five or six where I kept drifting into the same scene of smoking a cigarette. Well the first one I was under my blankets and I had a pack of cigarettes.
There is somehow enough light to see and I flip to top up and I see a couple that are broken. I'm thinking about going outside and smoking one but I don't even want to get up from under my blanket.
-I come out of and, I drift back into a see now I'm actually smoking the cigarette and I keep drifting in and out of it. Sometimes the location of the scene changes but always still with a lit cigarette in hand.
-A weird one where I enter a public bathroom scene and there is some guy in the bathroom with an eyeball on his forehead.
-All of a sudden I'm looking around at the dimly lit inside walls of my tent. (Because that's where I was.) I can't even tell if my eyes are open or closed. I'm not sure if I'm looking at a dream scene or actually looking around at the inside of my tent. Finally decide it's a dream scene and my eyes must be closed. Then the scene fades away and I actually open my eyes, and I'm like duh. Because in reality it's so pitch black in my tent I can't even see the inside walls, and the blanket is over my head anyways.
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Sunday/May/9/2021
I keep hearing what sounds like someone knocking on glass as if they are outside the house knocking on the window wanting to come inside.
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Friday/May/14/2021
Late into the morning Saturday. Was kind of in a shit mood, despite previously being happy to finally have a day off after working ten days straight. But I was in a weird kind of crappy mood where I didn't want to be awake to do anything, and yet was too awake to fall back to sleep either.
I just kind of lay there with my eyes closed hoping to fall back to sleep but not really expecting to.
I end up drifting off a little into a scene where I'm in the back yard (Bright sunny day) and I'm watching a squirrel running around in the yard. I don't have any lucidity at first, but then there is a bright white light shinning in my eyes making it difficult for me to see the squirrel. It's as if the sun is reflecting off of something metal in the yard and shinning super brightly, super white.
But then I remember and become lucid and in kind of awe for a moment, at the brilliant white light. I recognize it because I've seen it before, During hypnagogia/Wake Initiated dreams. A handful of times (But it's been a very long time since the last time.) But I've come to wonder, and suspect, the light is the same as what people sometimes describe seeing during near death experiences. I'm kind of startled by my recognition of it and startled awake.
I then decide to just get up and watch some Netflix until I start getting sleepy again and go back to sleep but with no recall.
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I need to try and update this more. I've been getting stuff now and then I've just not been writing it down. For a while I was falling to sleep listening to my music so that was making it difficult for doing any wake initiated stuff. But there was a few instances where the sound of the music was creating scenes. But most of the time I would just fall to sleep to the music.
Saturday/July/3/2021
While trying to fall back to sleep I'm laying there trying to keep my thoughts as silent as I can and just watch the darkness behind my eyes. All of a sudden I'm fully lucid and looking at a refrigerator. On the refrigerator door is is a drawing on a piece of paper attached to the door somehow. I can't remember what was depicted in teh drawing, I was more focused on the amazingly vivid detail of the scene and thinking about how incredibly vivid and realistic it seemed And I just stare at the image for a few moments before coming out of it.
There was something else too but I don't remember what it was.
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Sunday/July/4/2021
I must have been more tired than I had thought. I lay down and close my eyes and almost immediately begin to hear a random voice counting numbers. Then I hear another voice talking about hearing voices. Then a scene opens up and I see a man in front of me talking, I don't remember the details of what he was saying. But I had thought he was talking to me. But then I realize he is not actually addressing me, but some woman who was off to the side of me out of view. I watch as he walks over to her and takes her in arm and they begin to walk off together. But then they both stop and turn around and walk up to me wanting to tell me something but I come out if it pretty quickly at that point.
I then just end up falling completely to sleep. I'm on a bit of a wake back to bed right now. If I get anything else I'll edit in later.
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Monday/July/5/2021
-I hear a random voice clearly say "I couldn't do that." Immediately after hearing the words I'm all of a sudden looking at random scene. Just an ordinary back roads street with houses along it. A few trees here and there. On the right side of the street is a yard with a tall wooden privacy type fence around it. I see some small birds fly up and away, from somewhere near the fence. I just watch the birds flying off into the distance as I come out of it.
-I enter a scene of being in my home, well, I'm just walking in actually from the porch door. A rabbit runs in through the door before I close it and off to some place in the house that I don't see. My lost friends appears and she is excitedly running around this way and that looking for the rabbit, trying to figure out where it went.
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Tuesday/July/6/2021
-The on thing I was able to get before giving in to the urge to roll over and just go to sleep as an image of some chips and Queso cheese dip (which I had been eating on my day off.)
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Saturday/July/10/2021
I was still unable to get much of any sleep. I tried falling back to sleep for a couple of hours before going to work but just couldn't. I mostly just kept drifting in and out of work scenes I don't know how many times.
A couple moments of interest.
-Laying there I can feel pain in my spine and I'm just trying to keep my thoughts silent as I float within myself and direct my awareness throughout my body. Focusing on directing my awareness through the painful area of my spine and trying to massage the area with my mind. As I'm doing what I'm doing, I think I lose awareness a little as someone approaches me and starts asking me about my back injury. I'm a little annoyed by them distracting me from my meditation as I make some attempt to answer them without losing my concentration.
-I enter a work scene and I see Joan. She randomly says something like "This is happy hour." ( Her comment I'm sure is in reference to something we had been joking about the previous day in reality. There was some kind of fair going on in the area called a fun fest. And I had joked that we were having our own fun fest right here. And that was kind of the running joke throughout the day.) Anyways, when she says it's happy hour. I say to her. "Yeah, I'm already getting into hypnagogia." Then the scene fades.
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Sunday/July/11/2021
-I enter a work scene lucid and right away I notice too many people bumping into each other while trying to get past each other. I come out of it and wonder what is with all the work scene HI stuff.
-Then another scene fades in and I'm looking at a vivid image of my hand and I turn my hand and see an insect crawling across the back of my hand that looks like one of those water bugs. I just observe the bug crawling on my hand for a bit before coming out of it.
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Tuesday/August/3/2021
After my wake back to bed I lay down to sleep and slip into this weird scene without lucidity and I'm watching this creature that I can only describe as being gargoyle like. Wings, greenish skin, bald head, long claw like fingers. The creature has several children that look much like itself only little, child like. The creature it's feeding it's children one by one some kind of unpleasant looking mixture out of a bowl. With it feeds them it strokes their heads lovingly. I come out of it wondering where the heck that oddness came from.
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Wednesday/August/11/2021
Listening to some voice speaking random sentences. I wish I could remember the exact words but I can't now. I remember the sentences were kind of nonsensical and I was amused by them and thinking about posting it it here. After falling to sleep and waking up I was disappointed that I couldn't remember what was said exactly. I do remember the spoken sentences opening up into a scene where I'm viewing two people in an outdoor setting, sitting in a grassing meadow and having a conversation.
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Saturday/August/14/2021
You know you're tired when the instant you close your eyes you begin falling into hypnagogia.
I lay back and close my eyes attempting to stay aware. The instant I close my eyes I enter a work scene fully lucid. There is a lady there that I've not seen in a while. She looks at me with a big smile and says hi to me, calling me by name. And then I come out of it. After that I just fall completely to sleep.
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Monday/August/16/2021
After I wake from my nap I try to sleep some more but I just keep drifting in and out of scenes fully lucid. Most of it is just looking around inside my tent and I had one moment that felt almost as if I was leaving my body. The most significant of these is when I find myself in my bathroom looking around still fully aware it's a dream and trying to hold onto it/keep it from fading. I'm somewhat successful for a little while trying to focus on the scene in a way I'm not sure exactly how to describe. But I'm a little surprised that it's working as well as it is and I'm holding onto the scene for some time and beginning to think maybe I've got this but then it slips away from me.
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Monday/August/23/2021
Last night I had a lot of looking through my eyelids to the point it was almost getting annoying. The first couple of times I felt so wide awake while it was happening that I wasn't sure if my eyes were actually open or still closed. I was laying on my back in my living room tent and I kept seeing the inside of my tent and looking up at the ceiling of the tent. I finally got tired of that and rolled over on my side just wanting to fall asleep now. Still having trouble falling to sleep I was still getting more looking through my eyelids while laying on my side and interesting enough my view switched too, too looking at the side wall of my tent in the direction I was laying on. Until eventually finally falling completely to sleep.
And also seemingly directly into dreams as supposedly not supposed to happen when first falling to sleep. But I woke up from vivid recall of a dream that was so humorous I woke myself up laughing so hard. And when I looked at my clock it had only been an hour and a half since I lay down. I don't know how long I was actually sleeping it seemed like I was drifting in and out of looking through my eyelids forever before finally falling to sleep.
But that was the beginning of a great night of recall and eventually getting a full blown lucid.
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Monday/August/30/2021
I had a bunch more fading in and out of looking through the eyelids thing going on. A couple of times I actually forgot and didn't even realize my eyes were actually closed for a moment as I was staring up at the ceiling of my living room tent. Then suddenly remembering my eyes were closed and the surprise of the realization making me come out of it.
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Tuesday/August/31/2021
I enter a scene without lucidity. My mom is sitting on a couch and has my lost friend in her lap and working on giving her a hair cut. (As she sometimes did in reality.) Mom is momentarily distracted by something on the TV as she has the TV on. My lost friend takes advantage of moms distraction and leaps off of her lap and runs over to me. And I come out of it.
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Update Monday/April/24/2022
I might begin working on this again. The reason I've not been is mostly because of my back injury. I had started sleeping laying down in my living room tent again (apposed to sitting up in my office chair) but laying on my side as laying on my back is not such a good thing when pressure is being put on the wrong point on my spine. And as recall has been pretty good I was just trying to fall to sleep as quickly as possible and get myself into dreamland. But I think I might have found a way to lay on my back in a position that is both comfortable and also puts pressure from my weight on the right spot in a way that feels good is good for it. I'm going to give it a try anyways and see how it goes.
I have had some weird bits of hypnagogia here and there laying on my side that I've not posted but rarely and far between as I usually fall asleep too quickly on my side.
I had a little bit going into my nap that I don't recall very well but I remember suddenly finding myself in an outdoor scene lots of trees around and the air filled with falling leaves and the whole thing had felt pretty nice. There was something else before that too but I don't recall what it was now.
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Tuesday/May/3/2022
-The face of a woman with long dark hair appears in front of me. Her lips part and a long thick curving tongue snakes out of her mouth the image very demon looking. She is licking at my face when I come out of it. I'm wonder if that is like an old hag thing people talk of. Nothing frightening to me about it as I was fully lucid freaky but cool. (It's actually the second time since my last post a sort of demon woman appears in front of me like that. Last time was freakier as the woman's mouth opens wide showing rows of long needle like teeth. Almost vampire like. My thought as I looked at her was wow freaky then it faded.)
-I begin to drift off again. Another woman appears this time seeming to hover just over me as I'm on my back her face very near to mine. Then it fades.
-Drifting off again I lose lucidity as I'm in my living room tent and the tent is suddenly full of light and for a moment I believe I accidently left my little lantern on. I move to turn off the lantern and I come out of it realizing that it was just a dream scene and all is actually dark. (This also happened before since my last post. Random light appearing and thinking my lantern still on.)
I then fall completely to sleep.
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I've been having an interesting experience with tinnitus ear ringing lately. I can be laying there eyes closed and all a sudden the ringing fades away and gone. First few times it happened I didn't even realize it was because I was drifting to dream space because there no other indication that I'm not laying there wide awake with eyes closed. But now I know soon as that ringing fades away I'm no longer awake even though I still completely feel like I am.
I need to figure out how to use that somehow. So far just a bit of relief from the ringing before drift back to wakefulness and ringing comes back. It's weird though, ringing fades away and I'm like I must be in sleep space now even though feel see or hear no other indication other than the absence of the ringing.
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Last night I had a strange experience that I thought I was being electrocuted. I'm not exactly sure if it was and HI or SP kind of thing or what but when I came out of it I had only been falling asleep for a few minutes so I think it could have been. I remember feeling the weight of something across my body which in reality was my coverings. But I was being hit with vibrations which my mind translated to something like an electrical wire across my body. electrical vibrations were flowing through me and I first I didn't seem worried I could just wiggle away from it, but the more I tried I couldn't and the vibrations were intensifying and I begin to think I might be in serious trouble here and was trying to angle my body away from the source but couldn't. And for a moment thought I was about to die from electrocution from power lines laying across my chest or some such thing. But then I came out of it pretty disoriented realized I only been laying there a few minutes.
then remembering the vibrations some people say they experience during sp/ hi/or obe. wondered if that is what the cause was. That in-between where physical of body/nerves and awreness goes wonky, like hypno jerk too.( hypno jerk being much more common to me than vibrations.)