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« on: June 04, 2011, 06:58:55 PM »

I have been thinking about this issue of premonition, how one might instigate such events and how or why information seems to flow between highly disconnected points in time.

I am a big fan of Campbell's reality model as a general statement. It explains a great deal of what I believe I have experienced. Now, Campbell would explain that events in the relative future are effectively predictions along a probability surface. He would further argue that we as sentient creatures can affect future reality in physically obvious as well as non-obvious ways. So if one were to position themselves to predict the future, one method would certainly be to mentally try to influence such an event and predict the outcome. That would obviously be an active approach. But the more complex the potential event, the more dynamics involved and hence the smaller relative difference any one person is likely to make. That seems intuitive anyway.

It has become clear to me, that operating in various points along the consciousness continuum helps one to improve their operating abilities in all other states. So for example, if one considers meditation, OOBE, wakeful reality, and chemically induced inebriation as different points along the continuum, then I would argue that meditation helps one operate in all other states, etc ...    There seems to be a propensity of the human mind to be able to multi-task, at numerous levels. I would also argue that there is a fluidity between these states. They spill into one another and support one another. The more one explores, the better they are able to negotiate experiental and informational flow between these states in real time. I hope that makes sense, as it is a hard concept to explain.

But what of this question of prescience. Why do experiences from our relative future at times seem to permeate our conscious reality ahead of time? Could this ability be exercised? How would one do it?

I have an idea. Call it a strong hunch. What if information flow between past, present and future needs to balance in some way? Think of it as a conservation of information. Or if you want more detail, think of it as a state machine with various states that represent temporal points, with information flux into and out of a state as being roughly equal. What if the fluidity of this information flow can be improved by attempting to purposely push information into the relative past or present? Would pushing info into the past, allow information to flow from the future? Can this paradigm create a fluid state of information flow between different relative points?

I plan to resurrect a rather old idea. Ideally, I would attempt to pass info to myself. Alternatively, any DC would do. In the OOB state, I would simply do the following:

1) If the DC indicates it is a date from the relative past, I will tell them about the big news worthy event of the day.

2) If the DC indicates it is a date from the relative future, I will ask them for the big news worthy event of the day.

An example of a news worthy event (per yesterday) would be Edwards indictment for example. I will try this for a while. If it does not work in a reasonable time frame, I will pull in other states of consciousness as well. So what I am attempting to do here obviously, is create a propensity toward greater information fluidity by exercising the connections between different points in time.

That is the concept. I will summarize results here.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2011, 07:38:41 PM »

Looking forward to whatever may result!
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2011, 08:30:16 PM »

Good luck!  Don't forget to make it something weird and relatively unguessable.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 02:17:49 PM »

I wish to input one thing though that may seem insignificant but is very complex to me of why it occurs. I find any information that comes from the future is in some way tied to a deep concentration or a deep under concentration, I will give an example. Imagine you are in your car and you hear the phone ring, check your phone but its silent, then 10 seconds later it rings, I have found most of the time if not all of the time when this happens you are in a "non-thinking" state, an almost absent minded drifting in and out of fleeting thoughts and my guess is that somehow you pick up the future information of your phone ringing before time. I also have noted that a deep concentration state, for example in the car but driving and focusing on "everything" you see, making very conscious note of the grass, the birds, the signs, the people, sort of an information overload. In this state something really weird happens, you start to find it really easy to absorb "all" information, the barrier that filters out irrelevant information to your survival at that moment is broken and it starts to let in everything. I feel this "letting in" is what also enables you to see/hear/know of the future in that moment as your so open up that you just perceive it in some way. I seriously recommend you try it next time you are traveling in a train or in the passenger seat of a car and just for half an hour to an hour try and consciously note everything you see, try to be super conscious. I won't lie, the first 10 minutes of this really sucks as it feels like a headache is coming on and you just feel like you need to stop, but don't! if you push through it there is a window that gets opened and you feel as if it got all of a sudden very easy, this transition is where the barrier gets taken down of acceptable info that you perceive. Its the barrier that feels painful or feels like you will get a headache, not the information as your brain is well and truly capable of picking up supercomputers worth of data, its just that in normal everyday setting its not practical.

Hope this helps in some way, also good luck! Smiley
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    « Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 06:11:54 PM »

    An example of a news worthy event (per yesterday) would be Edwards indictment for example.
    Who? If I was your DC, that would be something I would disregard right away Smiley
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    « Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 08:41:11 PM »

    @PJ - It will be something interesting, no doubt. I already conjured myself this morning. I consider that to be good progress.

    @MB - You are the inspiration to the experiment of course. And I do mean that in a good way.

    @ IG - Oh, agreed. But if you think of the state you are referring to as tuning into a different point along the consciousness continuum, then perhaps there are other conduits to tap. I have a long of experience and theoretical foundation which backs up the concept anyway.

    @ SS - Edwards is an ex US representative who was running for president not long ago. Oh, and he was banging some woman and had a child with her, while his wife was dying of cancer. Oh ... and he was using tax payer money to cover it up. Kinda news worthy in the US for what that is worth.
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    « Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 11:29:27 AM »

    @ SS - Edwards is an ex US representative who was running for president not long ago. Oh, and he was banging some woman and had a child with her, while his wife was dying of cancer. Oh ... and he was using tax payer money to cover it up. Kinda news worthy in the US for what that is worth.
    My question is that:
    1. If you're assuming the DC to be an independent entity, there's a great chance that he/she would not find that news-worthy
    2. If you're assuming the DC as a future/past self of yours, then there's also a good chance that
    a) either the news doesn't make sense in the future (Edwards may no longer exist, another different Edwards may rise in the scene, etc.)
    b) or the news doesn't make sense in the past, because those events could have not generated there (Edwards was a just regular guy, or even not-born yet)4
    That would make a prediction likely to be misinterpreted or disregarded.

    A good way to avoid that would be using events that have relevance to more people (if 1.) or events whose interpretation is unlikely to change with the course of time (if 2.). Which brings another issue... both of these options are more likely to repeat themselves than more specific events.

    I may have misinterpreted your thread though Tongue. If that's the case, just ignore the above.
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    « Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 01:10:23 PM »

    Re-reading this, I don't understand how telling "past" DC's is going to do anything.  We already know nobody in the past got a message, right, so how can that change?

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    « Reply #8 on: June 07, 2011, 08:24:55 PM »

    My main interest is in extracting info from my dreamspace in "some sense". The fact that I am obtaining it from a DC is an abstraction really. I have obtained verifiable info from a DC at least twice. It's not they are truly independent entities. I do not believe that. Nor is it important to the experiment. They are simply a conceptual tool by which to obtain or pass info.

    To your question MB, I am trying to create a balance of info transfer between the past and future database (if you model our reality as a digital virtual reality). It is my speculation that info transfer has to balance, not unlike many other natural phenomenons (e.g. conservation of energy, etc ..). If I am sharing info with a non-actualized past entity it is more or less just for balancing effect. It is an imbalance of info I am trying to create, to encourage info transfer from the relative future. Of course that relative future is an imperfect projection, but it will have to do.

    I wouldn't get super caught up in detail here. The heuristics may be at least as important and the theoretical framework, if you know what I mean?

    I'll probably just rely on the lead story in the Chicago Tribune. That should do.
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