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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2011, 08:58:40 AM »
Would love to have you join us IndigoGhost, but don't want you to become discouraged if you don't notice any immediate results as most of the results from this device are probably going to be more long term.

I prefer slow anyway, i kind of wonder how quickly it would effect me since i already have a lot of those hunch moments. I for example have walked into a restaurant before and have ordered something complex without checking the menu. I think this type may be because my subconscious picked up the information somewhere in my visual field and was able to give it up when i was asked what i wanted, kind of a "click" then speak response to a sudden question without thinking about it. I have also had similar things when i'm asked random off-hand questions, I seem to be able to answer the question correctly even if i don't know the answer, although it only works when i'm not expecting it to happen or not focusing on anything. I think its even more interesting the restaurant times where i have been able to do it since as you know i have myopia and cant read the words at a distance because its just a blur, that makes me wonder even more about eyesight and how information is gained through the eyes as i have always assumed my ability to do this is down to my visual field picking up information as i walk in and relaying it later, however impossible it would seem with my eyesight.

I also wonder how hard the setup is for the device? I have check on the website and it talks about setting up the audio with 2 headphones every time you use the device, is this really needed? It seems like a ton of work to get it up and running, also is it annoying having it attached to a computer? I would assume so because of all the fiddly wires. I also wonder the effect long term on the brain as what is the actually structural change of the brain being caused by the device? I assume since you gain benefits while not using it that there is some kind of structural change right?

It seems very interesting to me, what kind of things have you guys noticed so far with your use of the device? Like any interesting story's about the use and effects on your daily life? :)
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2011, 07:38:11 PM »
I prefer slow anyway, i kind of wonder how quickly it would effect me since i already have a lot of those hunch moments.
You'd probably just have a lot more of those kind of moments. When iadr first started using the device he'd see what looked like flashes during the day which he assumed were spirits that he was just catching a fleeting glimpse of.

I also wonder how hard the setup is for the device? I have check on the website and it talks about setting up the audio with 2 headphones every time you use the device, is this really needed? It seems like a ton of work to get it up and running.
Not that hard to get set up although maybe a little confusing at first. Once you get it set up though you're good to go from then on and don't need to change anything around unless you decide to do some experimenting with various programs. We've always just stuck with the basic programs though so have never needed to
change anything around.

Is it annoying having it attached to a computer? I would assume so because of all the fiddly wires.
Not really annoying at all having it attached to a computer because the program will work with most any computer, even an old one, at least the version we have does. So we run it on this old Pentium 233 computer that we have on the other side of our bedroom. All you have to do is to plug the cord into the speaker plug in the back of the computer and then put the ball cap on your head and relax. We use ours when going to bed so sometimes fall asleep while using it. As it is somewhat of a distance from our computer to our bed we have a 25 foot extension wire running along the bottom of our bed that we plug the device into, which plug we also use to plug these speakers into to listen to affirmations when we sleep when we're not using the Shakti device. As the wires on the device are somewhat long, we have ours tied up to shorten them, and also put some tape on the wires going into the connections to keep them from coming disconnected which they occasionally did. Not too long ago we had our wires so tangled up from not having straightened them out for so long that we sat down and unplugged the wires one at a time and got them untangled and then plugged them back in. They're a lot easier to manage now that we've gotten them all straightened out. :chuckle: Surprisingly it only took about 10 minutes and was something we should have done about a year ago.

I also wonder the effect long term on the brain as what is the actually structural change of the brain being caused by the device? I assume since you gain benefits while not using it that there is some kind of structural change right?
That would probably be a good question to ask Todd Murphy the creator of the device, although he probably already has it mentioned somewhere in his literature.

It seems very interesting to me, what kind of things have you guys noticed so far with your use of the device? Like any interesting story's about the use and effects on your daily life? :)
The device can affect a person's moods which is the purpose of one of the programs on it called the Feel Good program which is supposed to stimulate a persons brain to just make them feel good. It can also bring up past memories a person has had, so you may find yourself recalling things you've done in the past while using the device.
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2011, 07:46:37 PM »
The God Helmet cfg and waveforms produce a light visionary state. Like very intense HI.

Like I said upfront, there are really three very unique applications here: (PSI, visionary states and lucid dream induction).
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2011, 08:11:10 PM »
The God Helmet cfg and waveforms produce a light visionary state. Like very intense HI.
Sounds like iadr needs to upgrade his software as it sounds like there are a lot more things that can be done with this now. Maybe one of these days old iadr will even upgrade his 8 coil to that deluxe 16 coil one that you have Dr. Tech, so he can send twice as much current into his brain. :chuckle:.
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2011, 09:28:55 PM »
Thanks Iadr! I always think of the other iadr as female i'm not sure why. I just seem to glance a feeling that its like your wife in your head on something haha, not sure how correct that would be but i do seem to relate it with being female and the more dominant and non subconscious Iadr to be male.  :P

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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2011, 02:47:34 PM »
Thanks Iadr! I always think of the other iadr as female i'm not sure why. I just seem to glance a feeling that its like your wife in your head on something haha, not sure how correct that would be but i do seem to relate it with being female and the more dominant and non subconscious Iadr to be male.  :P
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2011, 01:27:33 AM »
So I've got the Shakti now.. Been playing around with different settings and timings for the last month, and think I should probably give it a rest for a few weeks and start again. So far I haven't zapped myself for longer than 30 mins at a time. I remember a little more dreams, and they are more vivid and connected, particularly the second night after using it. I haven't stuck with any one session type though, which is not how it is recommended to be used, but I'm curious and impatient so thats how I did it.. I did do a left/right test session and found my brain to be "normal"..  ::)

So anyway, just thought I'd give a brief update on my progress.

Anyone else got interesting feedback?

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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2011, 04:41:07 AM »
We've not noticed anything unusual for quite some time from using ours, but the effects do seem to be permanent, as we've taken as much as 6 months off from using it before and didn't notice any less vivid dreams. It's difficult to tell how much of our progress in dreams is from the Shakti and how much is from supplements though because we take a ton of brain enhancing supplements, which is probably what most of the improvements in our dreams and lucids has come from.
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2011, 09:08:28 AM »
So I've got the Shakti now.. Been playing around with different settings and timings for the last month, and think I should probably give it a rest for a few weeks and start again. So far I haven't zapped myself for longer than 30 mins at a time. I remember a little more dreams, and they are more vivid and connected, particularly the second night after using it. I haven't stuck with any one session type though, which is not how it is recommended to be used, but I'm curious and impatient so thats how I did it.. I did do a left/right test session and found my brain to be "normal"..  ::)

So anyway, just thought I'd give a brief update on my progress.

Anyone else got interesting feedback?

Have you tried using it during a WBTB session yet? I suspect there is a short term and long term effect to this type of stimulation. The best way to leverage any short term effect would be to use it when your brain is primed to go back into REM for long periods of time. That means doing it at WBTB, as opposed to some arbitrary time before bedtime.
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2011, 10:16:42 PM »
Have you tried using it during a WBTB session yet? I suspect there is a short term and long term effect to this type of stimulation. The best way to leverage any short term effect would be to use it when your brain is primed to go back into REM for long periods of time. That means doing it at WBTB, as opposed to some arbitrary time before bedtime.
Interesting idea DrTech. Iadr's always just used his when going to bed, so half the time just falls asleep with it on, which probably diminishes some of its effect. :chuckle: What iadr is interested in knowing, since Mr Murphy's never responded to his last email, is what is the difference between the 8 coil model and the deluxe 16 coil model the you have. Sounds like the 16 coil model would probably put a person in a much deeper state than the 8 coil model does since it would be sending twice as much current to the brain and has some improved programming with it.
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2011, 09:06:51 AM »
I think the big advantage to the 16 coil Shiva package is that it includes the Shatki and God helmet SW and configurations as well. So you get a lot more options and a lot more to play with.

I have had a lot of success getting lucid with the God Helmet configuration (4 coils over each temporal lobe), with a 30 min modulated chirp on the left, followed by 30 min hippocampus signal L/R. It is interesting how everyone is wired quite differently. Murphy suggests that this cfg and signal might yield some very good HI. For me it doesn't at all. But it is positive for lucid dream induction.
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2011, 03:01:30 AM »
Have you tried using it during a WBTB session yet? I suspect there is a short term and long term effect to this type of stimulation. The best way to leverage any short term effect would be to use it when your brain is primed to go back into REM for long periods of time. That means doing it at WBTB, as opposed to some arbitrary time before bedtime.

No I've been doing it at night before bed.. That's a great idea though, I will give it a go in a few weeks after I take a short break.
I did a few feelgood sessions, and then a few hippocampus temporal lobe sessions, and then a hippocampal test session to find my best side, and then a 30min hippocampal over my right frontal lobe.. This stuff makes me feel like such a geek  :bigsmile:

After a short respite, I will have a go with some of the longer sessions, maybe the God helmet config.

How often are you using your's Dr T, are you sticking to the guidelines?

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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2011, 06:34:35 AM »
How often are you using your's Dr T, are you sticking to the guidelines?

To that question, I would simply refer you to my signature. 3rd quote down. I think Yngwie was referring to his guitar playing/shreding. But the quote applies equally well to the question at hand.
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Re: Circumcerebral complex magnetic neural stimulation.
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2011, 04:59:08 AM »
Ha! well, that was my thought too, and I have certainly been going a little harder that the directions suggest.  Not so worried about side effects, I just wonder if it will have a desensitising effect if I over do it.