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« on: December 27, 2011, 01:54:26 PM »

Greetings dreamers!..Last night I took one 5htp capsule plus one ..one mg  [delayed  release melatonin] went to sleep and 5 hours later woke at 3:00am  then took one 4mg lucid dreamer capsule and one 250mg KAL [Bitartate choline] caplet..

I was hoping for strong vibrations hypnogogic audio video activity to occur within an hour after taking supplements..
But It took me almost two hours to get to sleep before the dream came..

I did notice some far away sounding ..[knocking noises].. that were auditory road sighns before the dream started...

I remember having trouble getting back to sleep tossing left to right in bed...

At one point I got disgusted and said to myself... [I don't care if I ever dream again!].. figuring the morning was a wasted effort..

Well..about 2 hours and 45 minutes after WBTB It happened like magic!..

 I smoothly transitioned into a high quality dream where I found myself in a room with a TV playing next to the  bed I was lying in trying to sleep..

 There were two other people in the room watching  the TV next to my bed...

I remember stirring awake and asking the people to move the TV away from my bed and put it in another corner of the room..

I got up myself and moved it to a far corner of the room..

After returning to bed I remember still hearing the TV playing and people talking but was determined to get to sleep at any cost...!

After a while I woke up [still in my dream bed]..and noticed the people were gone ..the TV was also gone..

After getting up I slowly looked around the room at all 4 walls and thought  what a small room!

I then looked at my door and noticed  voices coming from behind the door..

I went to the door and noticed it was unlocked because I looked at the narrow crack between the door jam and door and saw no bolt..

I then started turning the deadbolt lever to the left carefully watching for the bolt to move into the jam..

It moved one way but it returned ..so I turned it the other  way and the door locked properly...

While turning this door lock I was able to concentrate   and see everything perfectly I had very high sense of awareness...

 Then a little later ..still hearing voices behind the door I unlocked the door and went out carrying something from the room..

I think all the auditory noises I was experiancing early in dream where the noises I wanted to hear only I was already in the ongoing dream at that time?1!

I quickly noticed I was in a large  space that looked like a hotel lobby with two women standing behind what looked like a reception desk..

As I walked past them they kinda stared at me so [still not lucid] I walked down a short hallway ..[wondering how I got into that room?] 

I went into a hallway restroom and then tryed to get back into my room...

I did enter a room but it looked different but I went to a table and employed a bag I was carrying on a table...

I then had a bottle of capsules and  emptied one capsule on the  table resulting in a huge pile of light blue powder!..[much more than one capsule could hold!]

I remember  struggling with this abnormal result of just one galantamine capsule I thought to myself!

I was confused but scraped up a small amount of dream galantamine powder  and washed it down with water...

Somehow I left that room and entered another room across the hall and when I entered the room it was large and looked like a public  library!

Shortly after entering the huge place I suddenly got a sudden shift of consciousness as I thought...[Wait A MINUTE!] then I raised my arms in the air and threw myself forward and didn't fall on the floor instead I started floating in mid air !!

[At that  point]..I knew what was happening...I was in a dream!!

I then started propelling myself all over the library laughing at startled faces looking up at me...

As I flew [It was like slow swimming in mid air] and at one point I got mischievous and took a hat of a DC and put it on my head laughing...

I then flew near the librarians desk and she gave me a startled shy grin as I playfully displayed another mid air act of humor!

All the excitement of realizing I was in a dream somehow cut the dream short as the imagery suddenly went Grey and blank...

When this happens while in the dream I think  that I must record this in case I forget it!

[I must stop this kind of  thinking within the dream]...because It seems to cut my dream short....

I also would like to get lucid  within an hour or less after taking the  Galantamine instead of 3 or more hours later   because I may e able to enter a second or third lucid dream this Way earlier...

All in all lucidity attained this morning!!!

Tom...

PS..this galantaming choline combo I havent tryed in a very long time...
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 10:34:37 PM »

Galantamine + choline + nicotine = fun while you're asleep.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 01:28:56 PM »

 ......also would like to get lucid  within an hour or less after taking the  Galantamine instead of 3 or more hours later   because I may e able to enter a second or third lucid dream this Way earlier...

Moonbeam..
When you take [galantamine] are you able to get lucid within close to an an hour after ingestion..?
 Or does it take you atleast 2 or 3 hours ......and sometimes 6 hours to get lucid..?
Just curious...thanks..Tom

PS.It just seems to me.. that getting effects from [galantamine] .. [QUICKLY] .. [within 60 to 75 minutes is more  dramatic like hearing a freight  train  tear through your room at  2:30am Smiley also with a lot of auditory sounds and imagry...
But I guess some people might not like that ..because its much like sleep paraylisis?..[I just think its a cool experiance that can offer a doorway to an OBE...
Tom..
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 08:59:25 PM »

Well, different at different times, I think.  If I take it at bedtime, it might not happen for a few hours.  But if I take it at WBTB time, it's usually immediate, either a WILD, or as soon as I go back ot sleep.

Do you take it on an empty stomach?
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2011, 10:01:41 PM »

.............Do you take it on an empty stomach? ........

At WBTB my stomach is fairly empty   ..but i often eat one half of a small banana for potasium and glucose boost with the galantamine..or mabey a few rasions..
maybe the sugar and potasium keeps me awake for a few hours..[but i suspect the [G] is causing a little insomnia..
If I experiance  quick action  from [Gm] within an hour to 90 minutes It can be like a freight train going through my  room ..it can be like [SP]...
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« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 11:02:54 AM »

Yes I imagine the gm is causing the insomnia; I can't imagine that a little bit of banana or raisins would do much.  But maybe they are slowing down the absorption of the gm somewhat.

I like the freight train thing; it means it's going to work well after I get past that part.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 02:46:43 PM »



 Greetings.  All....I skipped one night ..[yesterday]..not taking any [G]  but ..[this morning]..I took only 4mgs of galantamine again with one 250 bitartate  choline caplet  last night at ..[WBTb.. 1:30am]..

 This time.. I managed to  get to sleep at some point within 60 minutes of taking WBTB stack...

But compared to the other  morning I  got lucid ........WBTB was at 3:00am instead of 1:30am this morning...

I believe this timing made a difference in effects of the small dose of Galantamine I took.

Although I got to sleep sometime within the 60minute window after taking stack..

 ..[this morning]..I did recall only the end of a dream by 2:30 am..

[remembering [ the other night..[as  tonight]...I took one mg delayed release melatonin at 10:00am  [melatonin may have interfered with [G]s effects?]

 

But my next dream was anything but boaring.!!!..[strong galantamine effect]..

In that dream ....I recalled at 4:25am ..I found myself and two other DCs  jumping onto a slow moving freight train at night  looking for adventure ...

We all got aboard an enclosed  freight car it was  night stars shinning bright..

I remember the sounds I heard were ..[awesomely real ]!..as I clearly heard the clicking of the steel train wheels on the track under the floor of our  freight car..

I also  felt the ..[real to life] ..vibration that the train made through my feet and the roaring of the engine ahead of us..

Everything  I experienced on the train had me fooled to believing it as being a real experience!!

As we rolled along the tracks I felt the train speed up  a little.. and remember exploring the contents of  a freight car..

After climbing onto and over many boxes ..

All I saw was  box after box of chicken eggs packed in crates..

I also noticed the eggs were spoiled and rotting and some eggs appeared to have half born chicks protruding from  the shells..

This was weird I thought!

There must be something of value in some of the other train cars..

So me and one of the Dcs walked on the roof of the moving train ...[night time stars over head]...and climbed down on the next train car ahead and explored the contents of that car..

To  our surprise that car contained the same thing  inedible rotten chicken eggs?

Any way...The train continued on and on and on!

We started from the Midwest USA and had been traveling for many many hours!..

I began to get cold and hungry  and asked the larger of the two DCs where  are we??

 

The two DCs traveling with me never appeared clear ...they always appeared as shadow people without faces.in the dark. and  made no sounds..

 

Finally... the larger of the two mystery DCs answered  ..WE are in the state of MANE and heading for the Canadian border !!

I said WHAT!? ... IN MANE !??... How did we get way over here!? that's way off course..I thought to myself]/....

 I then looked out side the car ..[and  through moon  light]... could see we were  entering high country and going through a very wild wooded area and it was getting colder!

At that point I felt I was being taken off the face of the earth never to return...

How in the world did this train travel so far still in the same night ..I thought to myself!

I also noticed the train approaching a sharp curve and it was going very fast for a train!

It took the curve as though the wheels were magnetic with the tracks!

In another part of the dream We were approaching another curve ..[still night]..and a truck was on a nearby road driving the same  direction as the  train..and the smaller of the two Dcs was standing on an open   flat car in plain view of the truck!

We called to him to get out of sight of the truck because it may be a railroad bull!

He then came into the box car and said no one is driving the train!!

This is spooky.... I thought to myself!

The train continued on and  and on never stopping traveling into dream eternity!

After a while I finally woke up in  bed and recorded this fantastic adventure on my reorder! [but  had no trouble remembering it!]

 

The later dream ..[this morning]..took on a much more positive  tone.. 

In dream I was sitting an a doctors office with many other  DCs around...

There were also   many little kids with the Dcs and they were playing all over the waiting room..

There were so many  little kids.. they were like a small army and they were running amok all over the waiting room playing swinging from the ceiling lights throwing stuff at each other laughing and yelling ..and their DC parents were ignoring all this reading magazines..

As I sat in my chair the place looked like an insane asylum as the uncontrolled kids ran amok!

It was all somewhat cartoon like but getting on my nerves.

I wanted some quiet so I went into the washroom to wash my face with some cold water..

After getting in the wash room I opened a cabinet  and there were three of the little devils  hiding inside  the cabinet smiling  with  mischievous grins.....

I had enough ... and for my sanity ...I left the waiting    room and went outside for fresh air...

I then started walking down this long sidewalk as it was sunny and summer out side..

For some reason I was feeling very good and full of  energy and started singing a song as I walked along...

The song was...[she was a black magic woman]...and i continued singing this song as I walked..

After a while my voice was sounding great! and I continued to walk along and sing this song...

 As I walked I found that the longer I sang this song the better it sounded to me!

In fact it sounded just like the original artists sounded on the CD or record ..clear and amplified with sound equipment. and my voice was  just like the one who sang it on stage..

This was getting great as I started passing many DCs I continued singing this song [black magic woman] ..

I then began to snap my fingers and  ..[spin around  real cool ]..[with an imaginary guitar]...and really seemed to be holding an electric guitar as I went along..

This  continued  and the spinning increased in style as I was having a ball entertaining all the Dcs that passed buy me...

My own voice sounded so perfect that it was a carbon copy of the original recording!

I was becoming addicted to my own cool voice and let  Dcs around me know it  ...

I just kept spinning every few steps singing this song as I went along..

Finally I heard a voice call me over to  him..

It was a waking world guy named  Scotty that I knew and he was a real musician years back  according to him..

I came over to him

 what brings you to town Scotty?..I said with a fast..spin..kinda the Fonsie on happy days..

He tryed to hand me a pamphlet advertising a musical gig he was going to star in...

I looked at him and said listen to this dude ...I said with a spin....

I started with a verse of [Black magic woman   proudly..and did some fast dance steps ending it with a spin...

I then laughed and said later and continued on my musical state of giddiness walking along..

That dream was an overdose of humor and fantasy I think..? 

No lucidity on  this time.. but still wasn't let down by Galntamines effects..

Tom

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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 07:07:59 PM »

Yes, it's amazing even when you don't get lucid.  Smiley
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