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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2012, 03:51:47 PM »
Have you played around with WBTB yet?

I really enjoy my dreamwork. But to be honest, when 10:00 pm or so hits, all I want to do (and should do) is sleep.

Trying to DILD, observing HI and trying to DEILD or WILD will all be facilitated by WBTB. For that matter, it should positvely impact dream recall as a general statement,.
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2012, 09:52:45 AM »
Have you played around with WBTB yet?

I really enjoy my dreamwork. But to be honest, when 10:00 pm or so hits, all I want to do (and should do) is sleep.

Trying to DILD, observing HI and trying to DEILD or WILD will all be facilitated by WBTB. For that matter, it should positvely impact dream recall as a general statement,.

I have not yet, I might give it a go once I get some more experience with DILD and dream recall. Thanks for the suggestion DrTech
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2012, 10:27:20 AM »
Firstly, my apologies for not posting the last few days, I have been very busy with work and this has directly affected my dreaming (no recall and nowhere near enough sleep). Anyways, on to the good stuff. I had my first LUCID last night :) after not very long of trying at all. Let me know in a post what colour you guys would like to see me use, as I'm starting from scratch I am open to suggestions. Anyway enough babble, here we go...

February 4th 2012

I find myself sitting on a bench in my current town with 2 DC's. I'm fairly sure they were both old men, and I may have been old myself at this part of the dream. The dream jumps to me being in a queue of men heading into some ancient Egyptian ruins, we are excavating some treasure or something I guess. At this point I wonder how I got here from the peaceful park bench, so I go to perform the finger through hand RC and I have no hands. Even though most people report too much excitement that they wake up on their first successful lucid, it actually took a while to sink in for me. However, I knew what was going on, and decided that I wasn't too thrilled with the idea of going digging (a common theme in my dreams). I head out of the exit and find myself exactly where I wanted to be, back in the park on the bench with the old men. I try to explain to them that I am dreaming, and why this makes me happy, but they just laugh at me.

I get quite annoyed at them because of this, and decide that I don't like them any more. I decide to show off what I describe as "psychic powers". Instead of there being a static scene in front of us the world keeps changing, like a television channel being changed by an impatient person. I tell them I can work out the exact scene with my eyes closed. Of course the benefit here, is that my dream would produce whatever scene I guessed. The only scenes I can remember was an old fashioned game of rugby in sepia tone
(One DC said "How the hell did you guess the correct sport, you didn't even say football") and a vertical view of the graves from WW2.(like this http://www.ww2cemeteries.co.uk/cemeteries006.JPG) The men are constantly checking my eyes to see if i'm "peeking" but are awestruck to see that I am not. I was in fact peeking my eyes open very rapidly to see if my "predictions" were right, but for the sake of the dream and from their point of view my eyes were shut.

I decide to give them one last show before I go somewhere else, so I say "that's fine if you don't believe me, anyone could have guessed that". At which point I see a shadow of a plane through the trees
(literally through the trees... it would have been impossible to spot it) and I straighten my arm in the air in that direction and close my eyes. The triangular stealth bomber style plane comes swooping close overhead, releasing the steam everywhere above us. Yet still, the men of the bench are non believers, at which point I summon a full scale air show above this quiet park. Planes come from every direction swooping overhead in formations and performing tricks, before finally spraying a Union Jack flag in the sky above us, much like the red arrows do. The men burst into applause and I have made the lives of 2 old men a lot more interesting, even if they are just DC's.

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The dream ends there, but I later find myself with minor lucidity in an old mine shaft
(again, d'oh) being chased by or chasing none other than Lord Voldermort from Harry Potter. It's much like one of those action films where you chase the baddie but once you get close to him you get scared of his gun, or wand in this case, and run away again. He is apparently teleporting all over the place, through different tunnels and occasionally shouting out to mock me, or teleporting behind me to try and kill me. Even though this is my dream, I don't realise I can control what he does, but I do however take the initiative to learn to fly, as I've heard about others who do it and decided it would be much quicker and efficient. I just imagined where I wanted to be heading, and sure enough I would be zooming off in that direction. I caught up with Voldermort once, and had a mini battle with him in which I grabbed the end of his wand and snapped it. He grinned, looked at it and bent it back into place without touching it. I got scared and flew away.

After a while of pointless chasing, I found myself in the house that I grew up in. I was in the bathroom, and the roof was leaking because Voldermort had dug a tunnel above the bathroom causing water to drip in. I was being quiet trying to avoid being seen, when I heard him say "WHERE IS MY WATER GOING? HE MUST BE BELOW ME". I bolt out of there and head across to my parents bedroom
(not sure if it's for their protection or for a place to hide) and my sister comes walking out of the door. She appears to be in some kind of trance, I'm not sure what's wrong with her. As this is a dream, I am led to believe she is sleep walking. I try to convince her to leave the house, as I know it is not safe for her here. She isn't listening though, so the only option I have is to let her hide in our parents room whilst I run away. However the door crashes open, and Voldermort is here! Not being the smartest in a panicking situation like this, I jump into the nearest room...the bathroom. It's ok though, as I know if I hide behind the side the door opens, I will fool him. The door creaks open, and I see an ugly, scaly bald head poke into the room. He looks around for a bit, and then pulls away. I think phew, I'm going to get away with this, but then suddenly his head jerks in my direction, his cold black eyes staring straight into mine and drool coming out of his mouth between the few separated rotting teeth he has left. As his head lunges towards mine, I wake up.

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This was an amazing experience for me, my recollection of heading down to a mine or somewhere underground was very helpful in triggering a RC. I did not find my dream to be as vivid as some people describe, and in the second dream I felt that I did not have very much control. However, I thoroughly enjoyed the experience and I really hope I can have more. Hopefully my normal dreams are as dull and monotonous as they have been so far, so I can spot them more often and have some fun :)
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2012, 02:54:40 PM »
First ... congratulations. See, that wasn't so hard.

Second. I think you did a really nice job of keeping things stable and experimenting with what is possible. Nicely done there as well.

Third. And you can read into this any way you would like. In my first lucid dream after getting back into it (many years after I had a few) I found myself flying over a field, and up into the sky. I entered a portal and instantaneously transported to Egypt. I was hovering over the pyramids in pristine form. A scene from thousands of years ago. I flew into a hole at the bottom of one of the pyramids and woke, quite elated.  OK. Ponder  ;)
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2012, 05:17:08 PM »
Use a color that is meaningful to you!  I like magenta myself.  It just makes me feel more lucid.

Congrats on your first lucid!  You did an amazing job of controlling your emotions and not losing it instantly.
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2012, 08:55:58 PM »
Use a color that is meaningful to you!  I like magenta myself.  It just makes me feel more lucid.

Congrats on your first lucid!  You did an amazing job of controlling your emotions and not losing it instantly.

Well I guess it would have to be blue in that case :-)

Thanks guys! I had no idea my first lucid would come this soon, and be quite so good. I hope to have more soon!
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 04:38:18 AM »
Bluebird is on fire, i had ANOTHER LUCID last night. Not as good as yesterday though.

5th February 2012

The dream starts with me having a lot of stolen goods. I have some diamonds, some cash and one more thing I cannot recall, although I believe it was electronical. I am in my old house, and I have hidden said things throughout my room, however I then find myself in prison. I get to talk to my mum  and dad and tell them that no matter what happens, they must not move house until I'm released. My mum is just crying and my Dad says it's my own fault, but I think they get my point in the end. After some terrible time in prison, something gets me thinking about reality checks. I know that being awake always comes after something, but I knew how I got put in prison so thats ok right?

I foolishly don't RC, but I do however find myself out of prison (same dream). I am in what appears to be italian streets, but I am wearing a hat much like the employees of subway (I guess that I got a job there). I walk into the nearest subway and offer my hat to one of the employees, as I am a criminal I won't need it any more. However the prison guard who took me on this day trip is outside, so I head back out. I spend some time mocking him as he seems to be keeping a very poor watch on me, however eventually I let him take me back into prison.

<<Women on island>>
The dream skips and I find myself on a small island not far from the coast of France (even though we are in England). To escape I know I must either swim for it, or wait for the boat. I am with 2 of my real life friends, L and her boyfriend M. M wants to swim for it, but I am terrible at swimming and tell him it's a bad idea. He breaks off small bits of land which apparently float, and we are to use them as floatation devices. However, mine starts to break and I decide to swim back and barely make it. It starts to get dark so we decide to try and take shelter in one of the houses. We break into one of the houses, but some girls come from upstairs and catch us. I recognise one of the girls as someone I know in real life, we will call her R.

One of the girls is telling us we are criminals and she has called the police, however I'm still questioning as to whether this is a dream, so I spend my time trying to "chat up" a different girl, not concerned with my potential arrest. Then a tour bus pulls past the window and I start waving to females on there, at which point the police arrive  :-[ We all run off and hide in a different house, clearly the people here aren't going to help us.

I find myself in an odd room which appears to be L+M's bedroom in our current house. L has pink hair, when in real life she has brown hair. M is not currently in the room, and I am alone with L on their bed (It's worth mentioning I am not "interested" in L, so I find this situation a bit awkward and uncomfortable). I find myself talking to her and starting to think about dreams again. I think, "Hold on, I'm not a criminal and if I was why aren't I in prison". I look down and I have hands this time, they appear to be normal. I try the finger through the palm RC and my finger does not go through. I find this very weird, but I am almost certain I'm dreaming. I go to put my hand through a wall...no luck. I finally remember about the last RC I know, I pinch my nose and attempt to breathe. At first I instictively didn't hold tight enough, or would let go of one side, however I then grabbed tightly and I kept breathing. I was really happy for noticing this one, it nearly slipped past. I'm not sure what to do from here, so I decide ti try to complete one of the challenges from the Badge awards of MM.

I will tell L that she is a DC and have a conversation with her. We are both lying down on top of her bed and I just blurt out "You're not real you know". She looks confused so I say "I'm dreaming, this is my dream and you're not real". She asks me how I know, and I say it's because it's my dream and I can do what I want. She runs off crying, and a few minutes later she comes back with R. They are both angry at me, and make me apologize for my actions. I say "But I'm dreaming, I can do what I want" and they try to tell me that it isn't a dream. I feel guilty and decide to stop talking about being lucid, however
I then lose lucidity, and can't remember any more of the dream (I think I woke up)

Man I feel on a roll, this is great. I'm starting to get the hang of becoming lucid, and dream recall. I next need to work on control, as I had hardly any control in this dream despite realising what was going on. I have a feeling the escape and re-arrest scenes may have looped for a while, but for your benefit I only typed it out once. Hope you enjoyed :-)
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 04:39:47 AM »
Thats an impressive start - good work!!!!   I find it interesting - my DCs never seemed to give a crap when I told them it was a dream, but yours do.

"I'm dreaming, this is my dream and you're not real". )

were you "real"?
 
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 05:32:45 AM »
Thats an impressive start - good work!!!!   I find it interesting - my DCs never seemed to give a crap when I told them it was a dream, but yours do.

"I'm dreaming, this is my dream and you're not real". )

were you "real"?
 

Thank you greg! :)

Hmm, I'd at least say I was more real than my regular dreams, I had a body this time!
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 10:29:48 AM »
Nice job of not giving up on the reality state checking even after the first failures.

Interesting dream after that too - DCs are full of surprises.
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2012, 06:51:08 AM »
7th February 2012

I attempted to do a WILD last night, by using the WBTB method. First of all let me share a fragment of a dream I had before waking up initially.
All I can remember is being at a computer using Facebook chat to talk to some friends, one of whom said a really strange thing to me. Other than that it was a very normal and realistic dream, the text was legible and correct so it didn't trigger a reality check.

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I woke up naturally at 4am, but my alarm was set for 5am and as I hadn't fell asleep until about midnight I decided 4 hours was not enough sleep so I went back to sleep to hopefully get another REM cycle. At 5am I wake up and spend about 10 mins doing a few random things, I ate some chocolate as I heard that is helpful, read a small bit of a book and went to the bathroom.

When I returned to bed, I lay flat on my back and went over the advice I had been reading about WILD's in my head. I started to feel sleepy and wasn't seeing any HI, so I imagined places and scenes where I could be, which was working quite well. My body was relaxing and I'm almost certain my legs "fell asleep", so to speak. About 20 minutes passed and I was starting to see some HI, but not enough to form a dreamscape. My left foot starting twitching, but other than that no vibrations. I then started imagining a dreamscape where I was in a desert staring at a pyramid. I focussed hard on the pyramid, trying to pull myself into this world. I felt my entire body go dead at this point, I became really heavy and sunk into the sheets. However as I noticed this, I started losing my image, and no matter how hard I tried it slowly disappeared into blackness.

I had heard there were usually 2 stages similar to this in completing a WILD, so I focussed again in the hopes of having the second one where I would then be dreaming. However, a lot of time passed and I had no such experience. After I had been in bed a total of 1h30m I finally gave up and just went to sleep normally. Not only do I have no recall from the second part of my sleep, I also slept through my first class. This morning went terribly bad :( hopefully I can have better luck tonight.

If anyone has any tips or advice, please please please share.
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2012, 03:16:05 AM »
Good persistance, even if it didn't pay off! You were very very close it sounds like when you were seeing the pyramid, so you shouldn't feel too discouraged!

I didn't notice that you did any relaxation techniques maybe that would help? It seems you were holding on to your awareness just a little too strongly, instead of letting sleep come. It's the tricky part of of the WILD letting go with just the smallest strand of consciousness intact.

Good luck! And I hope that might be of any help.
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2012, 06:12:32 PM »
Hey guys,

Having terrible luck with WILD's, one I fell straight back to sleep and another I got insomnia for the rest of the night so I was forced to start my day at 7am (after waking up at 5am).

Not sure whether to continue or not, I don't know where I'm going wrong. I think I'm too focused on the real world, I live by a road so I always hear the cars maybe that is distracting me. My main problem is I am not seeing any HI whatsoever, so I'm not sure what to concentrate on as my body goes numb and sleepy.

As such, no lucids or even dreams recalled recently...I'm gonna attempt a WILD again tonight and then I will probably give up, I'm tempted to try suppliments but don't like the idea of doing drugs to try and enhance my dreams... We'll see

So yeah, nothing to report, wish me better luck for tonight :(
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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2012, 06:56:04 PM »
Bluebird. . . it isn't easy.  I do wish you better luck tonight - but would also encourage you to perhaps look toward some other methods and techniques and then revisit it.  Whatever you do, however, do not give up.

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Re: ** Baby steps by bluebird **
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2012, 09:00:37 PM »
Don't focus so much on WILDs. Try it, but don't let it keep you awake. If it works, great. If not, LDing is on your mind and you might DILD anyway.

Like PJ said, stick with one method and build on it for a while.
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