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« on: March 15, 2012, 08:18:00 PM »

Hi  all...Im looking for an [ origional lucidity institute Nova dreamer].... [dream mask]... [in good workingcondition]... for fair price]
 If you have one your willing to sell... please let me know through e mail or forum post...
thanks ..Tom 
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2012, 10:26:34 PM »

Have you looked on ebay?  Just a thought.  Might put a search in.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2012, 05:36:12 PM »

Hi  all...Im looking for an [ origional lucidity institute Nova dreamer].... [dream mask]... [in good workingcondition]... for fair price]
 If you have one your willing to sell... please let me know through e mail or forum post...
thanks ..Tom 

I know you probably have already set your mind to it but from my personal experience i would tell you not to bother. I have a REM Dreamer in my side dresser that i never use. I got it thinking it would be great and what it ended up doing was being uncomfortable to wear and very hard to sleep with. It works but compared to other methods its really a hassle. I would save your money and if you really want one then save up for the new one coming out as the REM dreamer was basically a clone of the Nova Dreamer, and my REM dreamer is meh.  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2012, 06:57:23 PM »

I know what you mean about the mask being a little uncomfortable but if one trys hard enough they can get use to them...
The REM dreamer you speak of  is really not comparable to the origional nova dreamer ...it may be similar...
  but is something of a poor copy...
I really wanted to see the new novadreamer because it is suposed to be much more comfortable built with very lightweight micro circuts... and above all a more acurate REM detection circut..
But the Lucidity Institute ...[if it really exists anymore] ...keeps promising to put it on the market .  .. [year after year]...but they never do??
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  • has several working nova dreamer 2 s...at dream camp  on one of the islands that  they let  people try...
    In reality any .. flashing light worn to bed could land the sleeper in a lucid dream if   the light  aroused them at just the right moment. durring REM  sleep...
    Thanks...Tom
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2012, 07:20:12 PM »

The inner workings of the business side of the lucidity institute is a very odd thing. Last I looked, Laberge's patent app on use of supplements to induce lucid dreaming was still under review and being tweeked. The app was submitted in 2004. Figure it was reviewed by 2007 or so. It's been 5 years now. Must be a lot of arguing going on over claims and interpretation and so forth. It costs money to keep those things alive.

Then the whole issue of the Nova dreamer 2. We've been waiting for that for the last 3 years or so.

I think you will need to go on the Hawaii retreat and simply steal one  angel
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2012, 09:25:44 PM »

I would produce my own with improvements but sadly I'm not an engineer. Its what someone with some entrepreneurial spirit should pick up as there are so many things that could be changed to make it a heck of a lot better for a heck of a lot less money. I know that for a while i have been thinking about instead of catching rem with eye movement you could use pulse/heat or maybe even some way of detecting SP. I have also had ideas for improving the light system. I think that rather then lights a human being would pick up vibration a lot better and integrate it into the dream scene, a really weird one that i have tested and actually does work is tilt tables. If you sleep on your side on a slope like a tilt table "Does not have to be a big elevation" you will find your self having a lot of "holding onto ledge" dreams and you will also not be able to walk straight.
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    « Reply #6 on: March 30, 2012, 10:02:49 PM »

    You guys won't believe all of the things that iadr has tried in an attempt to become lucid in his dreams. At one time he had all of these strobe lights in his room that he had programmed with timers to go off every 90 minutes, which just ended up depriving him of a lot of sleep. chuckle

    Then he got the idea of having alarm clocks with these rooster sounds going off every 30 minutes after about about 4 hrs 30 minutes, which also deprived him of some sleep. But changing the alarms to these coo coo sounds instead of the rooster sounds worked great, as it is just enough to slightly wake him up and allow him to start becoming lucid in his dreams...usually.

    He used to have a nova dreamer, but it was also distracting, and usually ended up being on the other side of the bedroom when he'd wake up in the morning, as he'd take if off in his sleep and throw it across the room. Very disappointing and probably one of the biggest wastes of money we've ever spent, just like all of these herbs we bought that we're supposed to help us have these pleasant dreams, that we had the wife sow into this giant pillow for us, which herbs did nothing more than stink up our bedroom.
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    « Reply #7 on: March 30, 2012, 10:55:33 PM »

    He used to have a nova dreamer, but it was also distracting, and usually ended up being on the other side of the bedroom when he'd wake up in the morning, as he'd take if off in his sleep and throw it across the room.

    Indigo knows the feel well.

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