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Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« on: May 08, 2013, 06:45:29 AM »
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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2013, 07:29:19 AM »
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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2013, 07:29:37 AM »
Cool find!
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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2013, 11:20:41 AM »
Cool find!

Agreed.

I'm gonna have to investigate a bit further about my "experience" yesterday with the hypnotherapist re: brain waves when hypnotised vs. NREM sleep - it seemed very much like I was either watching things happening of just sensing things - my conscious mind was trying to break through while my subconscious was actually experiencing the past lives... if you believe in that sort of thing.

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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2013, 02:31:31 PM »
Thanks, MB. I read it.

From what the hypnotherapist said, he would have to disagree with that intro psych info on hypnotism.  Yes, there can be post-hypnotic suggestions, but you are still fully aware during the whole session, and what he "suggested" to me was more relaxation and confidence-building during times I wanted to recall those wishes. 


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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2013, 03:36:39 PM »
Great information. I had been wondering recently what the difference was between REM and non-REM dreams.
In the secret space of dreams
Where I dreaming lay amazed
When the secrets all are told
And the petals all unfold
When there was no dream of mine
You dreamed of me.
-- from Attics of My Life, by Robert Hunter

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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2013, 03:40:59 PM »
I love this example of an LD from that site:

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On September 9, 1904, I dreamed that I stood at a table before a window. On the table were different objects. I was perfectly well aware that I was dreaming and I considered what sorts of experiments I could make. I began by trying to break glass, by beating it with a stone. I put a small tablet of glass on two stones and struck it with another stone. Yet it would not break. Then I took a fine claret-glass from the table and struck it with my fist, with all my might, at the same time reflecting on how dangerous it would be to do this in waking life; yet the glass remained whole. But lo! When I looked at it again after some time, it was broken.

It broke all right, but a little too late, like an actor who misses his cue. This gave me a very curious impression of being in a fake-world, cleverly imitated, but with small failures. I took the broken glass and threw it out of the window, in order to observe whether I could hear the tinkling. I heard the noise all right and I even saw two dogs run away from it quite naturally. I thought what a good imitation this comedy-world was. Then I saw a decanter with claret and tasted it, and noted with perfect clearness of mind: "Well, we can also have voluntary impressions of taste in this dream-world; this has quite the taste of wine."
In the secret space of dreams
Where I dreaming lay amazed
When the secrets all are told
And the petals all unfold
When there was no dream of mine
You dreamed of me.
-- from Attics of My Life, by Robert Hunter

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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2013, 04:09:11 PM »
Yup.  I would SO do that  ;)

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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2013, 07:12:08 PM »
Well... Duh!  I shoulda asked about that :-[

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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2013, 12:06:33 AM »
I didn't really read it; I just saw that it was the next thing.  I don't know anything about it.  A friend of mine was going to learn it, but then a bunch of family stuff happened with her.  I wanted her to hypnotize me into having lucids.

Would really be great to find a competent hypnotist and try to do that.
In the secret space of dreams
Where I dreaming lay amazed
When the secrets all are told
And the petals all unfold
When there was no dream of mine
You dreamed of me.
-- from Attics of My Life, by Robert Hunter

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Re: Dream and sleep stuff on psychweb
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2013, 09:11:35 AM »
I asked my hypnotist to plant the suggestion that I'll lucid dream more easily and often. I don't think it worked. I noticed no big improvement. Maybe he wasn't competent. After the sessions I had the feeling I'd been ripped off.
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