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Offline johnb

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Re: Stopping time
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2013, 08:40:46 PM »
Well we can never really tell for sure if anybody even has one consciousness, so I don't think they can scan for it.

Yes. Probably not possible. Or, at least would require a major breakthrough.
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Re: Stopping time
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Re: Stopping time
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2013, 02:10:49 AM »
But that's the whole thing; you can't know a consciousness really exists for sure unless you experience it.

Right. Don't see how we could.
In the secret space of dreams
Where I dreaming lay amazed
When the secrets all are told
And the petals all unfold
When there was no dream of mine
You dreamed of me.
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Re: Stopping time
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2013, 09:32:35 PM »
Yeah what you're describing sounds very similar! For most of it I just felt like all I was doing was thinking, and sometimes not with "bluebird's mind" but just "a mind", almost like I had disassociated myself with my thoughts completely, it was very interesting. However once I hit the freeze in time I didn't feel consciousness at all, I felt like an outside entity or a spare part that had nothing to do with thinking, so that bit sounds different

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Sounds and seems to me like your mind remembers what ego death feels like. And why wouldn't it? That experience is part of your supermind.

I think DrTechnical raises a point worth mentioning.
Dissocaciated, outside entity no thought.
What would our stripped ego be like? No thinking, just steaming consciousness.

"Consciousness itself is undemanding but put into context, it requires ever elaborate and shifting thought."
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Re: Stopping time
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2013, 02:56:01 AM »
if it was an experience of egoless perception, then why so different than the Tibetan "clear light" dream?
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Re: Stopping time
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2013, 08:03:46 AM »
if it was an experience of egoless perception, then why so different than the Tibetan "clear light" dream?
(shouted an ant into a canyon)

Well, now that you parallel the two...... Maybe nothing? <except the color  :meditate:
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Re: Stopping time
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2013, 08:52:23 AM »
if it was an experience of egoless perception, then why so different than the Tibetan "clear light" dream?
(shouted an ant into a canyon)

Well, now that you parallel the two...... Maybe nothing? <except the color  :meditate:

I am sure there is a symbol that represents this quite nicely.

Unfortunately the ant is deaf.
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Re: Stopping time
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2013, 08:59:30 AM »
if it was an experience of egoless perception, then why so different than the Tibetan "clear light" dream?
(shouted an ant into a canyon)

Wait help me out here, what is the Tibetan "clear light" dream?
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Re: Stopping time
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2013, 01:15:11 PM »
if it was an experience of egoless perception, then why so different than the Tibetan "clear light" dream?
(shouted an ant into a canyon)

Wait help me out here, what is the Tibetan "clear light" dream?

http://www.dreamyoga.com/tibetan-dream-yoga/the-dalai-lama-on-the-clear-light
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