SSILD--"A Very Mysterious Technique"

[johnb]

I tried it last night, got very relaxed quite quickly, but then fell asleep...  Would muchly prefer this to supps, but I'll take anything right now!

Thanks for the summary sheet, johnb!

Tried it last night, too, without success. Kept losing concentration. But I guess that's OK with this technique. When you realize you've lost concentration, you just resume with the Cycles.

Anyway, I was really too tired last night. Wasn't a good night to try it.

[johnb]

I tried this last night.  It was more tiring than I expected.  Fell asleep quickly.

Yes. Requires some concentration. The 5-10 minute WBTB interval is supposed to wake you up enough to enable that, I guess.

If focusing on the waking senses can be helpful, I wonder about the extra dreaming senses.

How would that work? What are the extra dreaming senses?

[mentalenforcer]

I tried this last night.  It was more tiring than I expected.  Fell asleep quickly.

Yes. Requires some concentration. The 5-10 minute WBTB interval is supposed to wake you up enough to enable that, I guess.

If focusing on the waking senses can be helpful, I wonder about the extra dreaming senses.

How would that work? What are the extra dreaming senses?

I'm not sure how many there are, and I haven't named them as such.

I remember one is sort of a "feeling" sense.  Something like what the Jedi and Sith might use.  Or a radar for energy.  You can know someone is standing on the other side of a closed door because you can "feel" them there.

The idea is that SSILD would engage even more senses with the inclusion of dreaming senses, and it could help catch FAs with them in the cycle.

[Shellidfl]

I don't know about aspirin, but ibuprofen has been reported to affect dreams.  I wouldn't take it just for that, however.

Right. Ibuprofen can be hard on the kidneys if you take too much of it too often. At least I think that's the case.

But if one needs to take a large dose of it for some other reason, might be good to combine it with SSILD, or other induction methods.

Really only two things you need to worry about with ibuprofen - if you have kidney disease or congestive heart failure, DON'T TAKE IT!

And, take with milk or some food as can be hard on the stomach.

400mg dose is not considered a problem.  Once a day (or night) is nothing - can take even 800mg 3x/day, but not really recommended for long periods of time unless you have arthritis...

I took 400mg last night with my small bit of peanut butter and square of Lindt chili chocolate!

[johnb]

I tried this last night.  It was more tiring than I expected.  Fell asleep quickly.

Yes. Requires some concentration. The 5-10 minute WBTB interval is supposed to wake you up enough to enable that, I guess.

If focusing on the waking senses can be helpful, I wonder about the extra dreaming senses.

How would that work? What are the extra dreaming senses?

I'm not sure how many there are, and I haven't named them as such.

I remember one is sort of a "feeling" sense.  Something like what the Jedi and Sith might use.  Or a radar for energy.  You can know someone is standing on the other side of a closed door because you can "feel" them there.

The idea is that SSILD would engage even more senses with the inclusion of dreaming senses, and it could help catch FAs with them in the cycle.

Worth a try. If you're able to focus on any particular sense, it might be helpful with this method. Even if it's a sense that's not available to us IWL. The inventor(s) of the method recommend just using vision, hearing, and touch, but other senses might work just as well, or better. People who believe in psi senses might be able to employ those as well. Even if those senses aren't real, the act of trying to engage them might help people get lucid. It might also work to just focus on one or two senses, instead of three. (I had trouble focusing on all three last night. I kept getting confused. Forgetting where I was in the Cycle.)

[johnb]

I don't know about aspirin, but ibuprofen has been reported to affect dreams.  I wouldn't take it just for that, however.

Right. Ibuprofen can be hard on the kidneys if you take too much of it too often. At least I think that's the case.

But if one needs to take a large dose of it for some other reason, might be good to combine it with SSILD, or other induction methods.

Really only two things you need to worry about with ibuprofen - if you have kidney disease or congestive heart failure, DON'T TAKE IT!

And, take with milk or some food as can be hard on the stomach.

400mg dose is not considered a problem.  Once a day (or night) is nothing - can take even 800mg 3x/day, but not really recommended for long periods of time unless you have arthritis...

I took 400mg last night with my small bit of peanut butter and square of Lindt chili chocolate!

Thanks for the information on ibuprofen. Guess it's reasonably safe. I never worry about taking it once in awhile.

Love chili chocolate!

[Shellidfl]

Thanks for the information on ibuprofen. Guess it's reasonably safe. I never worry about taking it once in awhile.

Love chili chocolate!

I KNOW!

As far as remembering going through the cycles, I just thought of going through the most ? intense (visual) to the least (skin sensations), but I doubt it really matters, as long as you are changing the focus every so often.

[johnb]

Thanks for the information on ibuprofen. Guess it's reasonably safe. I never worry about taking it once in awhile.

Love chili chocolate!

I KNOW!

Now I'm going to have to get some.

As far as remembering going through the cycles, I just thought of going through the most ? intense (visual) to the least (skin sensations), but I doubt it really matters, as long as you are changing the focus every so often.

True. Probably doesn't matter.

I think the WBTB interval is important, though.

[Sunshine]

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[johnb]

If focusing on the waking senses can be helpful, I wonder about the extra dreaming senses.

How can you focus on them while you are awake?

Guess you'd have to use your imagination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lnr8THgL5k

[Sunshine]

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[johnb]

Hey I made a rainbow once in a lucid dream, just like Sponge Bob.  

Wow!! Definitely a great accomplishment!!

[Snaggle]

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  In other words ibuprofen is a blood thickener that can cause blood clots which in turn cause heart attacks or strokes, so it's not just people with bad hearts that need to look out for it. It's rival aspirin which is a blood thinner (the reason one is took to take it during a heart attack) it seems pretty dangerous. Anyone that's dehydrated on a hot day and has been drinking pop which further dehydrates them rather than water might be at risk.



http://www.rxlist.com/ibuprofen-side-effects-drug-center.htm

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/mono-9368-IBUPROFEN+-+ORAL.aspx?drugid=5166&drugname=ibuprofen+oral&pagenumber=6

  It's always important to check the side effects of drugs (even when they're prescriptions). Russian Roulette is "reasonably safe", but still always a good idea to know one is playing it when on is.

[Sunshine]

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[johnb]

black, bloody, or tarry stools, coughing up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds

In other words ibuprofen is a blood thickener that can cause blood clots which in turn cause heart attacks or strokes, so it's not just people with bad hearts that need to look out for it. It's rival aspirin which is a blood thinner (the reason one is took to take it during a heart attack) it seems pretty dangerous. Anyone that's dehydrated on a hot day and has been drinking pop which further dehydrates them rather than water might be at risk.

http://www.rxlist.com/ibuprofen-side-effects-drug-center.htm

http://www.webmd.com/drugs/mono-9368-IBUPROFEN+-+ORAL.aspx?drugid=5166&drugname=ibuprofen+oral&pagenumber=6

It's always important to check the side effects of drugs (even when they're prescriptions). Russian Roulette is "reasonably safe", but still always a good idea to know one is playing it when on is.

Good point. Nothing is 100% safe. Always should think about what one is putting in one's body.

If any of those side effects ever happen, I'll cut back or stop my ibuprofen consumption. But so far I've never have had any side effects of any kind. Not that I take much of it. A little once in awhile for a headache. Probably the side effects happen mostly at very high dosage levels taken for an extended period of time and/or in people with serious pre-existing conditions.