CAWILD - Caffeine Addiction Withdrawal Induced Lucid Dream

[Sunshine]

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[joshbotch]

i gotta say thanks, that was one of the best chemical induced LD's since my early Gm days!  i wonder how often this could be used without building up a tolerance, especially for someone like me who doesn't use caffeine during the day... well rarely if at all. 

[Sunshine]

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[pj]

Thanks for trying it and reporting your success!

I suspect you will develop a tolerance for caffeine pretty quickly.  The beauty, however, is that it levels off and stays there, and you can probably throw yourself into withdrawal pretty much every other day.

[pj]

Success!!!

This is the third time I've tried it, but only the second time I actually had a withdrawal headache and drank coffee.  The other time I did not have much of a headache at all and took Excedrin.  Both times I drank coffee and had a good headache going have been successful.

I had only one cup of coffee yesterday morning and nothing afterward.  I woke a bit after 1:00 with a withdrawal headache, which is quick for me, but I deliberately drank a lot of coffee on Friday.  I had a cup (not a full mug - probably about 6 or 7 ounces) of coffee, and tried returning to sleep.

After what seemed like a long time, I was laying there wondering if I should get back up and take some L-Theanine or maybe some melatonin to help me get back to sleep.  Then I felt the WILD transition even though I wasn't trying to WILD at that time - it just happened.

The dream is recorded under today's date in my DJ.

[Sunshine]

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[joshbotch]

i am going to try again tonight, not sure about how the day might affect my chances though... i needed caffeine in the morning not to fall asleep at the wheel, then most of the afternoon was spent drinking.

we'll see.  oh, instead of excedrin i bought some nodoz pills

[pj]

Good luck!  Looking forward to hearing about the results.

[joshbotch]

well nodoz lived up to its name and gave me insomnia... i took a full pill last night which equals 200mg.  tonight i'll take a half pill and see what happens.  when this worked for me with excedrin i had taken 130mg.  fingers crossed.

[pj]

That does seem a bit extreme!

It works for me with a half mug of coffee. . . probably 5 or 6 ounces.

[joshbotch]

the really nice thing about this technique is that unlike the times G has caused me to lose sleep, i don't spend the day in a tired fog... i actually feel ok and sort of refreshed.

[pj]

Agreed.  GM leaves me in a not unpleasant fuzziness, but a fuzziness nonetheless.

For me, it is a game of not letting the headache go so far as to ruin my day.  I seem to have found that point now.

[Sunshine]

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[chrisal2000]

I'm of the opposite opinion.   I think that the withdrawal doesn't matter.  What does matter is that you go to sleep with caffeine in your system, without being completely tolerant to it.  But the headache does set up a natural WBTB, during which time you can take the caffeine.  Of course, I don't really know .  .  .

Hello, I attempted to take a caffeine pill today (100mg) in the middle of day to LD. I haven't used caffeine for at least 8 months, so I do not have any tolerance built up. Although, I figure I should give it a shot as a LD aid. Last night I had another bout of insomnia (I slept 4 hours, then woke up on my own and could not go back to sleep), so I was very tired and sleepy by mid-day today. I took the pill, attempted to WILD unsuccessfully, then I fell asleep for about and hour, and woke up with no dream recall and could not go back to sleep. However, I do feel that I would be able to have a vivid dream, or hopefully my first lucid dream if I attempt this again. In undergrad, I had the habit of drinking a Redbull before a nap in the mid evening  (when I was already exhausted from lectures) so that I could sleep for a short amount of time and wake up naturally an hour or so later to study. I remember having very vivid dreams on occasion. Today I was simply knocked out cold - probably because of 8 consecutive nights of insomnia. But at least now I feel wide awake and ready to study.
Thank you all for posting your experiences.
I will post my experience when I reattempt this in a few days.
-Chris

[pj]

For what it's worth, Chris, I highly recommend you get your first lucid experiences without supplements.  Even the most powerful and reliable of them well just bring you to the door - you still need to be able to get through it.

Everybody's different, of course.  Just my humble opinion on the matter.