Inception Prep 101

[DrTechnical]

Let's define the following interactions with ones dreamspace. Here, I will borrow some terminology popularized by Robert Monroe. Robert Waggoner calls its something different. I'm not going to run downstairs to get the book right now, but it's the same thing. "Supermind".

Let's assume we are embedded in a lucid dream. Some would argue we have the following manifestations of our "mind", each with a different role.


Conscious Mind

It's what it sounds like. It is the re-activated logical awareness and processes normally associated with wakefulness.


Subconscious Mind

Again, exactly what it sounds like. This element of our mind seems to drive many of the microelements of the dream. Let's say we walk up to our table and expect it to be brown wood, and it's stainless steel. This is probably driven by the SC. Or let's say we find an attractive DC and we make a move, only to get rebuffed. This is almost certainly driven by the SC. So in short, we are talking about micro details of the dreamspace.


Supermind

The supermind is the "man behind the curtain". It controls the macro aspects of the dream. The supermind is timeless, in any sense of that term. The supermind is privy to a great deal of information which we have no conscious or linear space/time connection to. The supermind is at work during some of the actions that Waggoner discusses and suggests. For example, stating a request out loud to your dreamspace and getting a response. This is NOT asking a DC a question. That is different. The most intriquiging example of how to leverage the supermind takes me back to EWOLD, where Keelin (if I recall) was floating in space and asked to see the meaning of the universe (or something similar). The response was provocative indeed.


Now, let's define several ways to interact with our dreamspace so we are all using the same terminology:


Level 1 Interaction

Here, we use the conscious mind to interact with our dreamspace in a very literal sense. An example of this would be trying to open a walnut with a nutcracker.


Level 2 Interaction

Here, we use the elements of the subconscious to alter the reality of our dreamspace to accomplish a goal. The method used is otherwise impossible in waking reality, but still under our conceptual conscious control. Stated otherwise, it is "a meeting of the conscious and subconscious minds". Extending our example, we might hold the walnut in our hand, imagine a melting effect and have the shell melt off, leaving the edible part in tact.


Level 3 Interaction

Here, we have something of a meeting of the minds. A combined interaction of the conscious, subconscious and superminds. How would we do this? Maybe we would state out loud to our dreamspace "show me a special way to dissolve the shell of this walnut, so I can get to the edible portion". Maybe your dreamspace responds by radiating a briliant white light and disolving the shell. This is an example of a level 3 interaction.


Hopefully, it is clear that each of these interactions are progressively deeper. Each, I would conjecture, have a monotically increasing affect of the mental focus or concentration on that region of ones dreamspace.


(bold/red, just to insure that the original point here, was not lost in the otherwise unoriginal and verbose exposition).


To be continued in due course.

[StarSeeker]

My favourite interaction is a bit between level 2 and 3.

[arliatis]

So if i asked the sky to play music, would that be the supermind, or the sc?

[DrTechnical]

supermind. You are asking your dreamspace to change something in the scene. Something that is not even possible IRL.

[IndigoGhost]

I think that if there is such a thing as shared dreaming maybe the supermind or even a 4'th party in the matter is a whole entity that is the same and connected in everyone or everything that consciously exists, maybe observers have this 4'th mind that is a creation mind and can work inside and outside of dreaming.

[DrTechnical]

I think that if there is such a thing as shared dreaming maybe the supermind or even a 4'th party in the matter is a whole entity that is the same and connected in everyone or everything that consciously exists, maybe observers have this 4'th mind that is a creation mind and can work inside and outside of dreaming.

Hey:

Yeah, I see where you are going with this. Interesting thought.

In the context above, I am using the term supermind much like Robert Monroe. Which is basically to say that Supermind = Soul. Supermind is the collective set of all past and future lives that you will have, including the present one.

People who believe in shared dreaming probably won't like my theory on the matter too much. Personally, I am guessing that most presumed shared dreaming experiments have more to do with people who are pychically linked and influencing each other dreams via whatever physical mechanism is responsible for telepathy. But who knows?

[DrTechnical]

Note to self. What is being described here is non-dualism. I just hadn't made this connection yet.

[IndigoGhost]

Note to self. What is being described here is non-dualism. I just hadn't made this connection yet.

Interesting you brought this thread up almost 2 years later, I wonder why.

[DrTechnical]

LOL. You don't have to wonder. You can ask.

The reason I capture thoughts and running theories is to simply document where I was at any given point in time. Nothing more and nothing less.

Yet, these insights from a few years ago are powerful in their own way. I think the human mind inherently knows a great deal more than we are immediately aware off. I think we have some level of insight into this area, but it is simply hard to get ones hands around.

It is interesting to me to read some older insights, correlate them to other theories and reality models I read after the fact and to try to connect the dots. The dots are connectable, which leads one (well me) to believe things are on the right track. That's all.

[IndigoGhost]

LOL. You don't have to wonder. You can ask.

The reason I capture thoughts and running theories is to simply document where I was at any given point in time. Nothing more and nothing less.

Yet, these insights from a few years ago are powerful in their own way. I think the human mind inherently knows a great deal more than we are immediately aware off. I think we have some level of insight into this area, but it is simply hard to get ones hands around.

It is interesting to me to read some older insights, correlate them to other theories and reality models I read after the fact and to try to connect the dots. The dots are connectable, which leads one (well me) to believe things are on the right track. That's all.

That's a good reason, I do similar but keep them in my head and then forget what i was thinking a few weeks later and have no idea where the new information came from when relating to what i had known before. No bother though, this keeps my ideas fresh and means that i don't get too stuck on my old theory's to where i wont change them. I also look back at my old posts sometimes and it sounds like a completely different person and sometimes i find myself thinking "What in the hell was i thinking?"  

Most people have filing cabinets in their brains to store information in its rightful place, names places and things all in order so they can find them later just as they had left them. I'm unable to do this system for whatever reason and find myself throwing all my data into a pile in the center of the room where its not very easy to get at what you want, like clothes in a pile. You could be looking for a black suit and find yourself picking up a leather jacket and a mini-skirt, but this is good in a way because it lets me come up with strange combinations that allow me to learn and combine existing ideas in random fashion and this always leads to new discovery's you would not get if all your information is organized.