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Offline DrTechnical

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Inception Prep 101, part 2
« on: June 11, 2010, 12:01:26 PM »
Hypothesis:   The dreamspace is actually physical in some sense. Furthermore, it is a projection into some of the missing dimensions predicated by M and String theory.

OK, that is not really my theory. I have heard others propose it. But let us consider the implications of this hypothesis, and let's take a stab at answering the question of what vibrations are. But to answer this question, we again turn to physics.


Fundamental Forces in 4-D Space

We all probably remember this from HS or college (or you'll hit this when you get there). There are electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear forces and gravity. If you are a physics expert, forgive my simplied definition ... the strong and weak nuclear forces hold stuff together, at an atomic level. I think the other forces are understood.

So if we wanted to look for a change in gravity, use a scale.

To measure a change in electromagnetism, use an EMF meter (careful on the static vs. dynamic types here).

To measure change in nuclear force, look for ions spewing from a substance, as a natural or unatural decay process.


Force Propagation Between Dimensions

Let's assume we belive M - theory and there are 11 dimensions. Let's assume that our 4-D world dimensions constitute dimensions 1-4 and we will call them "lower dimensional space (LDS)". Dimensions 5-11 will be bucketized to a chunk of space we call "higher dimensional space (HDS)".

What if two points in space/time were linked hyperdimensionally. What would that mean? How would we measure it. Well ... a force in a higher dimensional space might propogate to lower dimensional space as a change  in one of the 4 fundamental forces. Now these forces might not map one to one ( e.g. HDS gravity affects LDS gravity). Furthermore "forces" in higher dimensional space might be altogether different and have no analogue in LDS.

No, none of this is my theory either. I am borrowing.


What are Vibrations?

Now to the original stuff. In its essence, the mind has energy and can produce force. Not necessarily in this space, but in higher dimensional space.

Interestingly, no one has ever figured out how to cheat mother nature. Conservation of energy seems inescapable. It is reasonable to think that if a force flows into LDS, another force must flow into HDS. For now, let's assume that I have some pretty darn good proof of this and take it as a reasonable conjecture.

So what are vibrations? As our mind realigns its awareness into this orthogonal world we call dreamspace, energy is traversing upwards into one or more higher dimensions, the dimensions where the mind in fact is energy and does provide a force. There is an equal and opposite flow of force into our lower dimensional space. It is in fact electromagnetic in nature. This EM force if probably highly localized and affecting areas of the brain which then create a perception of electricity flowing through the body (this part is an illusion of course).

Is this kinda making sense  ;)
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Re: Inception Prep 101, part 2
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2010, 12:20:54 PM »
Making sense, yes.  Still saying "hmmmmm" though. . . (at about 820 hz, in fact.)

When successfully WILDing, my dream body seems to be electrified in some sense, though it is also capable of sensing the dreamscape in what I perceive as more traditional ways.  I dunno. . . gonna have to ponder this one during another excursion north.

What forces really exist in our dreamscapes?  Gravity exists only so long as we believe it does.  Time, however, seems pretty hard to muck with.  EMF?  Perhaps this has something to do with why electronic stuff behaves so badly in our dreams?
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Re: Inception Prep 101, part 2
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2010, 01:05:29 PM »
Missing the 820 Hz reference?

Thus far, the only force I can say exists for sure, is the mind. Conscious/SC/Supermind. My experiments in my dreamspace that have me engaged in literal actions, are all negative.

There also may be a correlation between vibrations, and useable hyperdimensional links. For example, in my case, when I WILD based on HI and have no vibrations (the unusual case) I find myself in random locations in my dreamspace. When I have vibrations, my dreamspace is always a good replica of the real world I just left. Stronger vibrations seem to prop up better links (easier to move force back and forth later in the dream).

Yeah, not sure if I've nailed this one. But I like the conservation of force interpretation. It makes a lot of sense, to me at least.
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Re: Inception Prep 101, part 2
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2010, 01:16:05 PM »
It's a bad joke. . . hummmmmming at 820 hz?  About a G#5 less 22 cents.
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Re: Inception Prep 101, part 2
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 03:45:23 AM »
Interesting but here are two questions:

1) How do you explain that vibrations gradually cease to happen for many experienced dreamers?

2) Can this theory be falsified? :)
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Re: Inception Prep 101, part 2
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 10:38:13 AM »
Interesting but here are two questions:

1) How do you explain that vibrations gradually cease to happen for many experienced dreamers?

2) Can this theory be falsified? :)

Interesting questions.

(1) I think as we get more experienced, our transition becomes quicker, more seemless. Vibrations might be that transitional state where we are mentally stuck in a limbo between this space and the next. The less experienced you are, the longer this process takes. I know my transitions range in time from nearly instantaneous, to perhaps 30 seconds or so.

(2) Honestly, I'm not sure what you mean by falsified? Please elaborate.
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Re: Inception Prep 101, part 2
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 08:30:51 AM »
not sure what you mean by falsified? Please elaborate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability#Falsificationism -- I think he was probably talking about this...
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Re: Inception Prep 101, part 2
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 11:57:49 AM »
This is off base in literal terms. But the fundamental observation of conservation of energy is basically correct. Energy is the ability to do work. We feed the larger consciousness system by reducing entropy, the LCS reverberates back into our space with a subsequent reduction of entropy that is measurable, if only probablistically.

One big feedback loop. Two "layers" that aren't layers at all. They are one. Creating a symbiotic relationship. Pushing and pulling and self organizing.
"In a fearful stampede to save themselves from the terrifying menace of an original idea, the herd can become a mindless destroyer of the light." - Thomas Campbell

"I just had to get nice last night. My Mind is so free, you wouldn't believe ... you wouldn't believe" - Dave Wyndorf

"I don't understand. How can less be more? That's impossible. More is more." - Yngwie Malmsteen