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Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« on: July 22, 2010, 12:01:42 PM »
That is a pretty pretentious subject, I know. But the subject and the placement in this folder may become clear over time.

This is a stab at creating something of a grand unifying theory. A theory which ties together various subject matter of interest to me. I can prove little to none of this. It simply resonates with my limited human programming and desire to understand the world around me.

Mostly, I am writing this to capture my thoughts. But of course my friends in the Mist are welcome to read and comment.


Haisch's God Theory

In short, Haisch believes that there was an all powerful, all knowing entity, the God Head. The God Head was unfullfilled. After all, being all powerful and all knowing it had no way to experience the unknown and grow in any fashion.

So the God Head created our universe. It did this to create a self sustaining system that would support life. This life would experience things, good things and bad things. This life would engage in various actions and learning experiences. Again, some good some bad. The God Head was unconcerned about the good or bad of it. The God Head was interested in experiencing life through its "children".


Robert Monroe, Someone and Loosh

In Robert Monroe's 2nd book, he discussed an elaborate experience where he receives a rote that explains the purpose and origins of the Earth. In short, "Someone" decided to create a truely self sustaining and slowly developing world which was capable of providing energy. This energy, which is really emotion and experience is called loosh. Now it appears that this energy/force in the form of both positive or negative emotions, both map into this thing called loosh. Humans seem the most capable of generating it, and the premier form of loosh, pure/refined loosh if you will, is generated by love.

I find this to be an interesting theory. It implies that this handwaving description of mental energy that we refer to, may be more literal than we've long given it credit for. It also fits in with my hypothesis that mental energy is in fact a literal "force" in the dreampace. One which is coupled with electricity in our waking reality space.


Buddhism and Karma

OK. We can write volumes on this subject. I will boil it down. When we have experiences, we react in some physical and emotional way. There is a tendancy to create karmic threads based on these reactions. Our reactions in dreams, also have a propensity to either create or destroy these karmic threads. The more karmic threads we hold onto, the deeper and more caught up in life's fantasy we become.

Buddhism, to a large degree is about mental training, and the elimination of karmic threads. These threads do nothing but obscure the true understanding of our own minds and the purpose for our being here. The lucid dream world of course becomes a wonderful forum in which to eliminate karmic threads. It also serves to give us practice for the world we will enter upon death. The Bardos of death are said to be very much like the dream world. If one can eliinate negative and positive karma and master the dream world, they stand a good chance of transcending this world altogether, avoiding another reincarnation onto earth and entering a realm we'll simply refer to as Nirvana.


PSI

Again, one can read and write volumes on the subject. Let's take it as a reasonable fact that there do seem to be mental interconnections between people. These connections seem stronger among people who are more physically or emotionally linked. Yes. But they seem to exist between more arbitrarily related people are well.


Making our own Reality, Positive and Negative Trends

I'm not a huge fan of Oprah, but I do know she spends a lot of energy focusing on the subject of making your own reality. I've been around for 42 years. I have a fair amount of life experience. Enough to say ... that there does in fact seem to be something to this concept. It seems very easy to get locked into a negative trend, and have everything around you slowly fall apart. Conversely, we sometimes have very positive trends. All of the things in our lives slowly support one another and build continued success and support of our goals and desires.

It's seems to be an issue of momentum. But if we are truely making our own reality, it must be deeper than that. We must be influencing people and forces around us in some sense, such that the possible outcomes which affect our reality, gravitate in our favor. Again, this issue of interconnection.

With that said, aren't these trends wonderful loosh producers?


Dreaming and Loosh Feedback

So, why do we dream? When I read Haisch's book, I proposed a theory. I still like it by the way, though I think it requires expansion, which I will do here.

If you believe that the God Head Created us, then you must also think it's reasonable that we have an inherent need/desire/programming to create as well. Our dream world gives us a chance to project and create and allows us to experience things we otherwise would be unable to given the limited physics of waking reality space. So there is a nested relationship here. The God Head creates us as a projection of itself. We exist and provide experiential feedack to the Godhead. We furthermore, project and create and then receive deeper experiential feedback from our own creations of our mind.

Yes, this issue of feedback. Let's look deeper into that point. Let me also point out the obvious. Haisch's theory and the loosh concept are quite consistent.

So, what if the production of loosh is not unidirectional. If it exists at all, then you believe that the "God Head" or "Someone" absorbs and uses it in some sense. Well, wouldn't it make sense to modify our reality based on the received loosh? Maybe the God Head takes action, or maybe their is an autonomous feedback mechanism in place to modify our reality based on the need for maximal loosh generation. After all, loosh production would only improve if the factors that created it in the first place were enhanced. Positive trends would be outstanding loosh producers. Even negative trends would produce a fair amount of the stuff (volume would be good, but negative emotion based loosh is not as pure).

Let's say this feedback mechanism takes the form of mental interconnection. If I have a very positive trend goind on, I am producing lots of loosh. I transmit the factors that support this condition. The people around me are sensitive to this transmisison if only on a subconsouu level. There would be a tendency to influence their actions to continue to allow my positive trend of loosh production. Now to be clear. I am not suggesting that I can override their needs based on my requirements to product loosh. For example, if my loosh feedback mechansim required a friend to give up his job so I would get it. Well then clearly his own loosh production would suffer and my feedback mechansim could not possibly override that influence.

So I view this as a very complex set of multidimensional interdependencies. I propose that PSI is a manifestation of this system. I further propose that we do, in a very real sense influence our realities. But these influences are subtle. We can only influence in so much as we can affect some number of people and circumstances around us. Though it is unlikley we can truely override their needs and desires in the process.

Now, let's go back to Buddhism. If we can eliminate karmic threads and understand the ture nature of the human mind, then what has happened:

We've become lousy loosh producers.

There is very llittle need to have this person around anymore. They earn their place in Nirvana and move on.


The Non-Linearity of Space and Time

OK, many have discussed the apparent non-linearity of space/time which is realilzed in dreams, and most probably life itself.

What if our experiences could in fact feedback into the relative past. How would this manifest? Is there a mechanism in place, beyond the apparent mental inter-person inteconnection, that can influence our actions at any arbitrary perceived point in time?

What if our projections (dreams - literal and figurative, visions, desires) could in fact be read by the God Head. Would this entity feedback these actions and guide us in some sense, so as to maximize the likelihood of reaching that dream, that goal?

What would that feel like? Well, maybe it's a string of gut feelings. Maybe it's a series of dreams. Maybe it's a type of dream you've been having over and over again, which facilitates an investigation and understanding of this process. In short, it's divine intervention, in some way shape or form.

But such interventiojn would certainly not be obvious. It would manifest as a desire to read a particualr book. Or a gut feeling that such and such dream was important. Or a subtle interest in some technology. Maybe it's a feeling that a set of experiences have  a deeper meaning than is obvious one. Maybe it's an effort by the God Head to direct you, and place you into a position where maximum loosh can be generated. After all, understanding the nature of your mind has the potential to create unlimited bliss. This bliss would indeed be a very refined form of loosh.

But therein lie the consequences. If one did truely tune into these messages, this guidance, and achieve this state, loosh production would thrive. But it would also meet its demise upon death. But that too, must be part of the cycle. The human reaches it's peak loosh production, then leaves this space entirely, bypassing reincarnation and the next trip through.
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 12:56:03 AM »

Very interesting! One thing I disagree with, is that eliminating the karmic threads we'll necessarily make you a lousy loosh producer, because according to Buddhist traditions, you will be filled with infinite compassion, so the loosh would be very intense and pure.

I feel that for the theory to be a truly grand unified theory, some more ideas are needed to be put into it. Bear in mind that I'm not an expert about these concepts, so take my words as a source for ideas, not as verified information.
Hindu philosophy may be very important for the unified theory. It has many parallels and similarities to Buddhism, but some differences. You might say that Buddhism is a highly refined Hinduism, but some of the important ideas of Hinduism, that were removed withe creation of Buddhism, should I think be put back into the theory.
One such idea is nature of enlightenment. In Buddhism, enlightenment is not really described, because it is a state you can't really understand until you reach it, only the path to nirvana is fully described. In Hinduism, it is also true that enlightenment can't be understood until it is experienced, but we can at least have an idea of what it is: Enlightenment is Realization of God, the state where you realize that you are not separate from God, that all the universe is a single consciousness, and you are part of this consciousness, but you are not part like a leaf is part of a tree, but more like the tree's DNA is part of the tree: it contains the essence of the complete tree.
You contain the essence of the complete universe, of God. You are one with the universe, one with God, one with the collective consciousness which is everything that there is.
You experience the realization that your Atman, the individual essence, is equal and one to Brahman, God.

Another concept in Hinduism, which is interesting and I think could help inspire the unified theory, is the idea that the perceived universe is a dream that is dreamed by the aspect of God called Brahma. Now this idea too is parallel to Buddhism, where reality is perceived as a dream because you perceive everything with your mind, and your mind is biased and not pure, so everything that you experience is not really the way it is, but an illusion projected by your mind based on the information coming from your senses and your Karmic traces ( also called sankhara ), so the reality that you experience is a dream, and you are the one that is having this dream. In Hinduism, the dream is being dreamed by Brahma, it is an illusion, but not just an illusion created by your mind, but an illusion created by an aspect of God, and we all exist in the same dream. At the end of the day both of these concepts might be the same, but they are described from different angles. Buddhism is more self centered, it is interested in the liberation of your own mind, and your mind alone inhibits you from being liberated. Hinduism is more centered around collective experience, about the nature of the universe, of God.


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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 06:45:53 AM »
Copied for study and meditation.  (I'm not home and not really connected for the next few days.)
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 09:52:20 AM »
Oh, yeah I should have been more specific Dodo.

This is more like DrT's grand unifying theory relative to things which DrT is interested in or seemingly direclty affected by. That's a little more precise. In short, this is the question of "why are we here, what is the significance of dreaming, does it play a role in any sense to life after death, and why the heck does PSI phenomenon exist at all"

I understand your point about infinite compassion. But I still see the path toward eliminating karmic threads and understanding the true nature of the human mind, as something which concurrently gravitates toward the pure elimination of emotion.

Is compassion an emotion, or a state of the mind. I would say it's the latter.

Hence, if you reach that point, you are no longer of "value" in the cycle of life on this world. IDK, somehow that conclusion resonates with my instincts, if you know what I mean?
« Last Edit: July 23, 2010, 10:10:08 AM by DrTechnical »
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 05:53:56 PM »
Have you ever read any Jane Roberts DR T? From some of the things I've seen you speak about here, I think that you would find her work interesting.

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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2010, 08:01:17 AM »
Thank you dodo for outlining these differences between Buddhism and Hinduism. I was not aware of them, you described them so well, i now have taken a greater liking and curiosity for Hinduism.
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Dr T, i love your open mind and curiosity for life's puzzles. Your tendency is towards logic and structure, however if this were not so, there probably wouldn't be something like this written by you. :P Its good to hear you are listening to your intuition as well.
I really enjoyed reading the brief overviews of these various theories. I was also not aware of some of these.


Caradon, i just noticed the text under your avatar "inception sucks" LOL :mwahaha:
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2010, 01:52:56 PM »
Have you ever read any Jane Roberts DR T? From some of the things I've seen you speak about here, I think that you would find her work interesting.

Negative, but I'll look her up.
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2010, 03:05:24 PM »
Thank you dodo for outlining these differences between Buddhism and Hinduism. I was not aware of them, you described them so well, i now have taken a greater liking and curiosity for Hinduism.
 :D

Yes Hinduism is very definitely fascinating. It is not just one religion and philosophy, though. They are many very different Hindu beliefs and ideas, sects, philosophers, teachers, and techniques. This is true also with Buddhism, but with Hinduism there are so many that it is quite possible to never even hear about all of them even studying all your life... :p I'm mentioning this, because if you read a little about Hinduism, bear in mind that what you read is only one interpretation, and there are other interpretations that are very different.


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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2010, 09:21:55 AM »
Yeah, I concur. Hinduism and Buddhism both manifest in somoething of a very sectorized manner. It depends where you live and who you study under.

It's kinda like being in India. There are literally hundres of dialects in that country. Depends where you are from.
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 10:38:30 AM »
Wow, this thread was the equivalent of 250 push ups and 200 star jumps for my brain! Got to try and keep that grey matter in shape!
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 10:45:02 AM »
Wow, this thread was the equivalent of 250 push ups and 200 star jumps for my brain! Got to try and keep that grey matter in shape!

Did you read the flatlands story in general deep dreaming. That will put you over the edge  :)
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 12:12:31 PM »
I still agree with most of this.

It brings me back to my study of MBT. I very much like Campbell's theory. What I struggle with however is:

1) Diffs between the future probability surface and the past data base.
2) Why would you not leverage the data associated with an individuated unit of consciosuness? Hence, the data storage is per IUOC. There is no grand database. Data is distributed and intrapersonal. There is simply no need to store ALL the data. Only the data per IUOC.

I personally believe that the future probability surface is a manifestation of NPMR. We can meet others there in principle, and we can certainly meet residents on non-PMR space. As suggested, it is a projection, but a shared one.

Our PMR past data base is per IUOC. In that sense, we are creating our own database, we are having dreams and affecting our own personal entropy in the process. We are acting as a chip off the old block of AUM. We are self organizing per MBT, Buddhism and several other belief systems.
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 05:35:56 PM »
I wonder if we are capable of understanding a grand theory. You start with what you experiance and then apply your thoughts to it, so far so good. Then what we believe (not what we know from experiance) starts to appear. Why even bother to include past baggage and a lot of that will be so far removed from the origonal thoughts anyway.
I think a big picture may even at some level be correct for one person and not another and that would really chuck a rock at it. Dr T, I think you have posted about the absence of self in the void, if you take this a starting point so there is no self, no beliefs, really just energy how will a theory inlude everything and nothing?

A bit of a ramble here but interesting post.
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 07:32:14 PM »
LOL. And there you have it. "Everything and nothing." That is the challenge, isn't it?

I guess that everything is nothing, at least in terms of the physical characteristics what we believe to define space/time?
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Re: Inception prep 101, Part 3. DrT's Grand Unifying Theory
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 07:35:51 PM »
yip and adding to the mix I think you can start with the nothing and create everything (in one realm at least) and that is what we do in dream and LD start with energy and create but not convinced that we can start with something and explain nothing or is that what we really do LOL start with something and explain nothing
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