Non Verbal Communication (NVC)

[DrTechnical]

I've had my share of lucids. And yet somehow I continue to discover new things all the time. Call them re-inventions of the wheel, I guess?

Let's consider DC communication and the dream world. Communication with DC's is unpredictable at best. Some are brilliant, most seem to be bufoons. We all try the same communication approach by and large ... verbal. Then there's the dream world. The dream world is defined by symbolism and visuals. Enough said.

There are those who have dug into this and firmly believe that NVC is the way to go. What is NVC? Well, it's any thing other than a literal verbal communication. It can be intention in a look, it can be visualizing something and effectively transmitting that image to a DC, it can be emitting an emotion, etc ...

Now, NVC can help communicate many things. Something literal, like a dog running. Or more complex things, like an emotion, a need and so forth. How you might transmit these ideas is something to experiment with and explore. I have recently had some success both receiving and transmitting NVC. Don't expect NVC from DC's to you to be easy to interpret. This is part of the complexity of the challenge.

Why do I think this is important? It dawned on me that I've been doing this all along. For sex. No, I'm not kidding. When I first started pursuing lucid sex, I would hit on or otherwise proposition DC's. It met with very limited success. It then dawned on me that I need to believe they want me. How do I convey this? Well ... mentally. With a thought, a look and intention etc ... Works every damn time. NVC seems to be the language of the dream world.

Yes, this is expectation and intent. But I bellieve it's more than that. You are leveraging the natural dream communication tool with entities who speak that language.

This is something I plan to dig into bigtime. I would be eager to read other peoples opinions and results as well.

Enjoy.

[IndigoGhost]

NVC seems to be the language of the dream world.

If this is the case then since not only DC's but also the ground and the trees are the same shouldn't you be able to look at a tree and it will sprout roots walk over to you and have a stare off conversation? I think this would be pretty cool

Why do I think this is important? It dawned on me that I've been doing this all along. For sex. No, I'm not kidding. When I first started pursuing lucid sex, I would hit on or otherwise proposition DC's. It met with very limited success. It then dawned on me that I need to believe they want me. How do I convey this? Well ... mentally. With a thought, a look and intention etc ... Works every damn time. NVC seems to be the language of the dream world.

When i was first learning to lucid dream i was amazed at how detailed and real it was, so amazed even that i had seen a pretty woman and thought it would be a good idea to see how real she is. I touched her arm and for some strange reason her legs turned to wax and fell off. I have told this story to a few people and i still think its funny and relevant. I never tried anything like that ever again!  

I think the NVC has good grounds as you are yourself so you can talk to other inward entities in your dreams through this means, heck i reckon you could even talk to your DC's just by tapping them on the shoulder with your intention and it being transferred in an instant, you could even tell your DC you whole life story just with a handshake.

[Caradon]

It makes a lot of sense. Since DCs are created by your mind, they should be able to be influenced by your thoughts the same way the environment is. I once tried to see if I could get some women in a room to take their cloths off simply by intending them to do so. Had some success. One of them took her shirt off and went topless. I once used telekinesis as a method of telepathy. Sending my thoughts into a DCs mind basically the same way  as I would use TK on an object. That was very successful. I've also used TK to simply make them do what I want. But I guess that's not quite the same thing ,but it works well. 

Anyway, I think this could be a fun experiment. When I get some good Lucids going again I'll try to remember to do some playing with this. 

[The Littlest Leaf Dragon]

In my DJ and maybe my awake journal as well I've often spoke of an RDC that I've known for years and that we understand what the other of us is saying before we say it usually.  It's been the most effective and meaningful communication I've had with any DC to date.  Definitely something worth looking into.

[DrTechnical]

In my DJ and maybe my awake journal as well I've often spoke of an RDC that I've known for years and that we understand what the other of us is saying before we say it usually.  It's been the most effective and meaningful communication I've had with any DC to date.  Definitely something worth looking into.

That's an interesting spin on the matter. The fact that this DC is recurrent. How interesting.

[Sunshine]

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[arliatis]

Quite often in dreams i don't need to communicate verbally. In the extreme case taking over there minds and doing what you want, but often you could ask them questions while directing the thought at them. I guess this is verbal communication, except it seems to work much better if you want a DC to do something.

[DrTechnical]

What is the difference between verbal and non-verbal communication in a dream?

verbal:  When you ask a DC where PJ is, hoping to get a logical response. This hasn't worked so great for you I know.

non-verbal: Approach a DC, put your hands to their forehead and project a picture of PJ and yourself.

But in general, non-verbal is ANYTHING that is not leveraging a literal verbal form of communication.

[Sunshine]

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[DrTechnical]

Well, it's definately not dreaming of talking out loud. We're all in agreement there.

Then there is the fine line between expectation and intent and NVC. That gets fuzzy.

In the extreme, you have the transmission of more abstract concepts and the reception of such. This is more of what I mean. For example, approaching a DC, trying to assess their relation to you by transmitting abstract concepts and receiving an abstract response back. Yes, I am intentionally being vague because I thiink trying to nail down the definition of abstract becomes self defeating and too restrictive. Hopefully that makes sense.

[iadr]

When I first started pursuing lucid sex, I would hit on or otherwise proposition DC's. It met with very limited success. It then dawned on me that I need to believe they want me. How do I convey this? Well ... mentally. With a thought, a look and intention etc ... Works every damn time. NVC seems to be the language of the dream world.

Awesome thread DrTech, and excellent example. 
Look forward to trying this technique will all of my dealings with dcs.

[Specialis Sapientia]

Here is a discussion of the differences between our ordinary way of communicating and the telepathic (NVC) way of the non-physical. There are not many terms in it the text, but PMR means Physical Matter Reality and NPMR means Non-physical matter reality.

There are also references to Robert Monroe, at least I think you DrT should find it useful. http://www.my-big-toe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2965

[IndigoGhost]

I have just thought about something. I almost never talk in lucid dreams or in any dreams. I also seem to have very few DC's but the ones that i do have are a little bit like puppets that i can do as i want with, maybe this is because I'm doing (NVC) and just never knew about it.

I have background DC's like everyone else but for the most part they leave me alone and i leave them alone.