Author Topic: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam  (Read 11804 times)

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CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« on: December 22, 2010, 12:20:11 PM »
CWILD is caffeine-withdrawal induced lucid dream.  This may be one of the most effective supplement methods for inducing lucidity yet described, but unfortunately it is limited to those people who are addicted to caffeine.

Caffeine, like various other stimulants, is known to potentially induce lucidity when taken before a nap or at WBTB, with variable effectiveness.   However, for people with caffeine tolerance/addiction, if caffeine withdrawal is present prior to the caffeine ingestion, it seems to be a much more effective oneirogen.  If true withdrawal is present, the rate of effectiveness is almost 100%.  Lesser degrees of withdrawal may lead to decreased effectiveness.

The advantage of CWILD is that no tolerance is induced, which is a major drawback of the other LDS.   Instead, it takes advantage of the caffeine tolerance that some people already have; therefore, it can be used as often as is convenient for the dreamer.

The method is very simple.   The most important thing is to be physically addicted to caffeine to the point where symptoms, primarily headache, but also feeling of grogginess and relaxation, are felt when caffeine is withheld.  The time it takes to get into a state of withdrawal will vary from person to person.  Usually, refraining during the day, or at least past early morning,  is sufficient for withdrawal to be felt that night at WBTB.   Then a normal WBTB routine is used, with ingestion of caffeine at that time.  It has been found that going back to sleep as quickly as possible, before the caffeine has time to be absorbed, may prevent insomnia, which is a risk with this method.  Use during daytime naps is possible as well.
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 02:24:15 PM »
Posted up front.

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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2011, 07:32:17 AM »
Would this not mess up your sleeping schedule? well its not like most of the methods don't anyway.. WBTB kinda messed me up i could not get back to sleep after and was tired the next day for school but i haven't heard of caffeine method until now, is this your invention made via trial and error or is it well known and i just didn't do my homework before posting?  :oops:

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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 07:36:41 AM »
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 07:58:37 AM »
Not recommended for school nights. 


Yeah i know NOW but trying WBTB was shortly after my first ever LD and i was willing to do ANYTHING to get that buzz of control again you must know what i mean.
Do you think the effectiveness of CWILD is worth getting addicted to caffeine?

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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 11:59:28 PM »
just to make sure I get this right - dont drink during day or at least after the 2 starters in the morning and then WBTB with a cup of coffee. I have to try this one
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 10:15:52 AM »
Yes - but if you aren't addicted to caffeine it is less effective. The withdrawal seems to be a big part of what makes this work.
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 10:46:25 AM »
Yes - but if you aren't addicted to caffeine it is less effective. The withdrawal seems to be a big part of what makes this work.

Has this been tested without reintroducing caffeine at WBTB?  To determine if it's the recent withdrawal itself that is providing the benefit (perhaps by disrupting the routine of addiction).

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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 12:22:22 PM »
Not in any formal way - no.  I have had withdrawal headaches plenty of times without trying to satisfy it and not experienced lucidity though.

It is a good question and worthy of some kind of systematic exploration.
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 03:38:07 PM »
............It's the caffeine.  There have been nights........

So!.. it is the [caffeine] that is helping with lucidity!

The next question is....is coffie alone more effective in boosting lucidity [in dreams]..?
   
Or can other caffeine sources [such as caffeine pills or green tea]...work ..[as well].. as coffie?

Because ..if coffie works best.. it contains more than 1000 other substances  in it that may be adding to the effect..

Also..why does coffie work so well for those who are used to it?
When people who arent used to coffie just get insomnia?

Perhaps a smaller measured dose of caffeine could work for those not used  to it?

It is interesting how caffeine has the action of waking up the part of the brain that controls criticle awareness..even during sleep...
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2012, 08:18:16 AM »
hahah Interesting method but I just couldnt stop drinking my morning coffee ! :) there are much more effective methods that could work :)

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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
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Re: CWILD - Caffeine Withdrawal Initiated Lucid Dream, by Moonbeam
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2012, 10:03:30 AM »
How strong does the addiction need to be for the withdrawal to work?
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