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Offline majic

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Thoughts on reality checks
« on: April 22, 2012, 04:16:41 PM »
This is an area that really interests me. We spend far to much time trying to get lucid and its like trying to wake up in the morning, should be natural and easy but there is a blockage that I feel is more conditioning that anything else. As I like to say its possible so lets make it probable and a then up the LD sucess rate.

I have 3 lines of thought on where to start and one is from within the dream space and I would break this down into two areas. One ask the DC what to do, really simple but there are communication issues here with their baby talk when they dont want to answer and secondly try to seed some something in your dreams while dreaming for next time in the hope that it will trigger the "aha" moment. I really dislike reality checks for the reason that if I am at the stage of doing one I am lucid and and they can be very difficult.

The other two thoughts are for daily life.
First is to make a habit in some way by association, say I want to remember something like where are my keys. I can put them down on a table or if you are brave under a book in a draw. I can then go past something that I do a lot like the stairs mid way down the hall and each time I go past say to myself "the keys are in the draw in the office under the book" After about 3 passes for me it is in and then each time I go past in the future the thought appears in my mind - it can be annoying and I just cant forget as it is seeded by an action. If there is a way to seed the intent to the dream state from here I dont know but can try.


The 3rd way is one that I feel could produce more success. The dream state appears to be under control of the SC and so the SC needs to be able to be instructed and we need to assume that it will take instruction so we have to show some leadership here as it is a stubborn sort of a thing (directly related to its other half)

There are times during the day when I feel connected, say when I see something in the garden that totally captures my attention, or when I am in tune on my bike riding up a hill and just feel complete. At these times I feel my consciousness and sub-consciousness are in tune for an instant at that time I should simply say aloud and in my mind that (in my next dream I want to be told/made aware.... that I AM DREAMING) make it plain that it is an order.
If you are in tune with you body and mind I feel this may get some results.

What leads me there is that when I am trying for WILD and get to solid HI I will sometimes think in a forceful way (I want to be in the dream state, please put me there) and it will sometimes instantly transit me to a dream.


I also think that SC should be chopped a little and maybe called sub-c and super-c. Sub-c being the interface between waking and sleeping awareness and not involved in the dream content. Thinking this way when we immerse for a day its like using a shotgun to kill a flea and firing it a lot of times because we dont where we are aiming. So a day long immersion will of course hit the Sub-c interface and plant instructions for awareness. In going to sleep and using intent and strong will we are doing the same thing but in a shorter time frame, still trying to hit the mark but a little more focused that's all. The key is to know when the Sub-c is active and able to be imprinted with an instruction.
I want to know how and when this part of us can be used to imprint, I dont think the Sub-c is smart or dumb as that is not the correct concept but it is able to collect or be imprinted with instructions and then we will have the issue of saying "I dont want to LD tonight" as it will be simple as I feel it should be.

I feel the the question we ask (am I dreaming) is wrong and we will get better results by asking (am I asleep or awake) and imprinting this during the day when we feel we are in tune with ourselves.  I find in doing this its not long before the question appears and I am being asked. Its at that stage we should start to answer. A simple step by step process.
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Re: Thoughts on reality checks
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 06:29:30 PM »
Interesting and well stated.  I have one comment at this point.

Are you familiar with NLP?  (Neuro-Linguistic Programming.)  One of the techniques of NLP practice is called "anchoring."  What you are describing here is exactly what Anchoring is about - creating a neurological link between one thing and another.  I have always thought this held great potential for lucid dreaming, but never really thought up a concrete way to implement it.

I really like your description of that feeling of wholeness or completeness.  I experience that when I am playing music, and particularly when playing with an ensemble.  The only other times I have felt that way have been during meditation or very slow, long, quiet walks.  I think of it as "being in the zone," and that is a common theme among musicians - particularly jazz musicians.
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Re: Thoughts on reality checks
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 10:03:04 PM »
I read a few books on NLP many years ago and pulled the guts of them to play around with so yes familar with the concept.  What I like is that I read and I have read vast amounts of book on stuff and I file it away and at some time the connections seem to appear between unrelated events or goals (lucid living) . This was one of them so its nothing new but a tool to be used in a new way or for new purpose.

I like that feeling on oneness and get it often enough to know it well. I have never really tried to use it or even understand it but now placing some effort into what it might be good for.  The last few days I have been asking myself each time that I find myself focused if I am awake or asleep and now I find that at the moments that I would be asking that question I am now having it appear in my mind. The next step is to then look around and focus on something in detail for a few seconds and then forget it. I am not trying to judge as I feel that will start logical thinking and I dont want that. When I get the question appear and the looking for detail to follow by itself I will then start to question the detail of what I see.

I got lucid last night simply by the thougth of "I wonder if I am dreaming" and it  just came to my awareness by itself so might be making progress by cunning plan or luck but I will take either.
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