True,,, iv been like i am for so long i find it hard to think another way, are all these techniques just relaxing techniques or some kind of meditation,, cause the last person who gave me tip to lucid dream, he told to put a banana in my mouth , jump on one foot , while chanting 'come buy ya my lord' , not only did it not work, i don't even like bananas,,lol,,, so i thought id just stick to the old tried and tested method of counting sheep,zzzzzzzzzzzz ,, but you know if im up for jumping off a 1000 foot building one after another, im up for anything? Apart from the banana thing,,,hope to hear from u soon, natsy