Author Topic: Lucid Dream Transitioning  (Read 4522 times)

Offline Vex

  • Lord of the Rings
  • Ambassador Guild
  • Evaluator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3945
  • Ex Kitten
Lucid Dream Transitioning
« on: December 29, 2014, 01:36:37 AM »
Had an interesting experience this month. I became lucid at the very end of one dream because I realized it was 'dream end' ... stayed lucid for the few moments of void space... and managed to hang onto lucidity as a new dream formed all around me.

I got to wondering about the void or transition area between dreams. Would becoming lucid via void be it's own classification if an actual dream had not formed yet?
The impossible is possible tonight. ~Smashing Pumpkins 
https://twitter.com/MortalMist/status/473630187901317120

Offline DrTechnical

  • Lead Tangential Thinker
  • Research Guild
  • Evaluator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3752
Re: Lucid Dream Transitioning
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2014, 02:18:49 PM »
Interesting experience.

But in terms of classification, I would simply call it a DILD, with the voidspace being nothing more than a dream sign.
"In a fearful stampede to save themselves from the terrifying menace of an original idea, the herd can become a mindless destroyer of the light." - Thomas Campbell

"I just had to get nice last night. My Mind is so free, you wouldn't believe ... you wouldn't believe" - Dave Wyndorf

"I don't understand. How can less be more? That's impossible. More is more." - Yngwie Malmsteen

Offline mentalenforcer

  • Evaluator
  • *****
  • Posts: 986
  • If you are not someone else...
Re: Lucid Dream Transitioning
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2014, 03:27:28 PM »
Had an interesting experience this month. I became lucid at the very end of one dream because I realized it was 'dream end' ... stayed lucid for the few moments of void space... and managed to hang onto lucidity as a new dream formed all around me.

I got to wondering about the void or transition area between dreams. Would becoming lucid via void be it's own classification if an actual dream had not formed yet?

The voids are interesting.  How would you describe the void you experienced?

Offline johnb

  • Evaluator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2710
Re: Lucid Dream Transitioning
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2014, 05:41:47 PM »
...and managed to hang onto lucidity as a new dream formed all around me.

Pretty cool, Vex! For me, when the dream imagery goes away while lucid, I almost always wake up. I sometimes get some HI before waking up, but that's about it.

Also, did you use any particular technique to get the new dream going without losing lucidity? Or it just happened?
In the secret space of dreams
Where I dreaming lay amazed
When the secrets all are told
And the petals all unfold
When there was no dream of mine
You dreamed of me.
-- from Attics of My Life, by Robert Hunter

Offline iadr

  • Evaluator
  • *****
  • Posts: 9160
  • Peace Be With You!
Re: Lucid Dream Transitioning
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2014, 07:31:09 PM »
Had an interesting experience this month. I became lucid at the very end of one dream because I realized it was 'dream end' ... stayed lucid for the few moments of void space... and managed to hang onto lucidity as a new dream formed all around me.

I got to wondering about the void or transition area between dreams. Would becoming lucid via void be it's own classification if an actual dream had not formed yet?
Sounds similar to the DEILD (Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream) where a person just lays still after waking up from a dream, and waits for the next dream to form, which is a very effective technique.
Beg and Bas: HA GG TR LM CL SO LC RS FL LW TD
Int: EF BI JR DC WH CT CW IA WA TA WT JT RA WW WF RA MF WF BO TK
Advanced: TT AN OB CS BH ST
Sea:
All tasks completed. Going through a second time.

Offline Vex

  • Lord of the Rings
  • Ambassador Guild
  • Evaluator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3945
  • Ex Kitten
Re: Lucid Dream Transitioning
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2014, 11:39:20 PM »
Interesting experience.

But in terms of classification, I would simply call it a DILD, with the voidspace being nothing more than a dream sign.

I suspected as much too.
It'd be interesting to develop a way to use dream transition time to get lucid. We have several dreams a night, right? If there were a way to determine and use the transition periods between regular dreams there would be the potential for getting lucid even more. I'm willing to bet though that not all dreams transition the same. Just idle ponderings.
Had an interesting experience this month. I became lucid at the very end of one dream because I realized it was 'dream end' ... stayed lucid for the few moments of void space... and managed to hang onto lucidity as a new dream formed all around me.

I got to wondering about the void or transition area between dreams. Would becoming lucid via void be it's own classification if an actual dream had not formed yet?

The voids are interesting.  How would you describe the void you experienced?
The void, which was only a few moments, was greyish and somehow chaotic. It didn't appear to be doing anything but I could feel something else was brewing up.


...and managed to hang onto lucidity as a new dream formed all around me.

Pretty cool, Vex! For me, when the dream imagery goes away while lucid, I almost always wake up. I sometimes get some HI before waking up, but that's about it.

Also, did you use any particular technique to get the new dream going without losing lucidity? Or it just happened?

I did almost wake up. At the moment the previous dream ended and I realized it was ending I felt on the verge of waking. The void came, was just sort of there, and I knew I'd wake up if i didn't do something. I clasped my hands together as tightly as possible and repeated, "I'm dreaming, I'm sleeping, I'm dreaming, I'm lucid,..." or variations of those. It worked. I hanged on through the void, which was a bit scary because I'd never experienced that type of environment before, so serene but at the same time dangerous feeling. The new dream formed abruptly. It started from my feet, with grass and worked it's way up to the sky. It happened startlingly quickly and then there was this huge jolt, like the whole world fell into place or something. That nearly knocked me out of the dream too, that giant jolt. I jumped onto the nearest house and ran my hands along the grit of the shingles to anchor myself in. It worked.

Had an interesting experience this month. I became lucid at the very end of one dream because I realized it was 'dream end' ... stayed lucid for the few moments of void space... and managed to hang onto lucidity as a new dream formed all around me.

I got to wondering about the void or transition area between dreams. Would becoming lucid via void be it's own classification if an actual dream had not formed yet?
Sounds similar to the DEILD (Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream) where a person just lays still after waking up from a dream, and waits for the next dream to form, which is a very effective technique.

I've never been able to DEILD. Maybe this was an in dream version of it? The thing that triggered lucidity was the realization the dream was ending. It was weird experience. I've dropped through floors to change dream scenes and when I do that it's a black void I fall through to the next dream. I've also commanded a dream to change and watched as one dream scene constructed itself downward, like puzzles snapping together, over the old dream scene. There was no void in that though. This was probably the strangest and scariest transition I've ever been through. I want to experience it again.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2014, 11:52:35 PM by Vex »
The impossible is possible tonight. ~Smashing Pumpkins 
https://twitter.com/MortalMist/status/473630187901317120

Offline johnb

  • Evaluator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2710
Re: Lucid Dream Transitioning
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2014, 04:14:31 AM »
I did almost wake up. At the moment the previous dream ended and I realized it was ending I felt on the verge of waking. The void came, was just sort of there, and I knew I'd wake up if i didn't do something. I clasped my hands together as tightly as possible and repeated, "I'm dreaming, I'm sleeping, I'm dreaming, I'm lucid,..." or variations of those. It worked. I hanged on through the void, which was a bit scary because I'd never experienced that type of environment before, so serene but at the same time dangerous feeling. The new dream formed abruptly. It started from my feet, with grass and worked it's way up to the sky. It happened startlingly quickly and then there was this huge jolt, like the whole world fell into place or something. That nearly knocked me out of the dream too, that giant jolt. I jumped onto the nearest house and ran my hands along the grit of the shingles to anchor myself in. It worked.

Wow! Fun experience! Affirming that you were still dreaming kept you dreaming. Have to try that sometime, if I can remember to do so.
In the secret space of dreams
Where I dreaming lay amazed
When the secrets all are told
And the petals all unfold
When there was no dream of mine
You dreamed of me.
-- from Attics of My Life, by Robert Hunter

Offline Vex

  • Lord of the Rings
  • Ambassador Guild
  • Evaluator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3945
  • Ex Kitten
Re: Lucid Dream Transitioning
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2015, 04:30:01 PM »
I stayed lucid through another transition. It was different than the last one I had.

It started the same, with me getting lucid with the realization that the dream was about to end. However, this time the transition didn't happen right away. When it did come it was very sudden, no dramatic swirling landscape creation this time. And again I nearly woke, nearly lost lucidity. I hooked my fingers into the dreamscape ground (though tecnhically there was no seeable ground) and hanged on for dear lucid life. I made it through but the succeeding lucid dream was very foggy and frail feeling.
The impossible is possible tonight. ~Smashing Pumpkins 
https://twitter.com/MortalMist/status/473630187901317120