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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2010, 11:23:09 PM »
This community needs to be more involved man. I was very disappointed at the turnout for voting in the contest, but even worse I was expecting a lot more entrants! I had absolutely no confidence in winning. I was SURE that some amazing artist would smoke me.

Once the things working again we should tinker with it, improve it and have another drawing contest. Advertise it on the front page and in PM's with some example works and instructions in it. That would be awesome.

When you know for sure who's in charge of the dream sketcher, have him PM me.
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2010, 12:56:34 AM »
I know..  In fact, the front page thing is a small part of larger picture concerning this; making everyone realize this is their site/forum and that it's not owned, nor its destiny determined by the admins.

I'll find out about the DreamSketcher, and do that.  No promises, but one of these days I might try to learn Java and fix it myself, if we can find the source code.  I think someone else might be (sort of) working on it; not sure about that either.

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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2010, 08:26:05 AM »
Dodobird wrote the Java, and Raklet created the secure socket.  I have no idea why it quit working and don't even remember the circumstances anymore.  The code is still here and surely can be muddled through somehow.  Dodo is not able to help us out right now.

wolvendeer agreed to take a look at it, but that didn't get very far - probably because of me.

I'll show mu where the pieces are. . . maybe we can figure out how to put Humpty Dumpty back together.  I sure miss that feature!
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2010, 09:32:56 AM »
If you have the code then maybe it might be easier just to take it out and put it back in.
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2010, 09:37:09 AM »
I'm giving you access to the Locker Room - there is a thread there with some of the code in it.  I'm really lost as to where to go from here.

Look for a new board for you in just a few minutes
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2010, 02:58:26 PM »
WEE! It works sorta!

Of the things I wanted to see added were an opacity meter (instead of the coffee cup which only has one opacity setting) and some cosmetic stuff that would let you know what color you're using. Also I think it would be cool to use that...big....rainbow square (I can't remember what it's called) to pick colors instead of swatches. Simple electronic drawing stuff. I gotta go to school now.
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2010, 03:00:03 PM »
They're working on it right now. . . and some other ideas are being floated.

I'm not sure we have the source for this - the core of it is Dodo's creation.  mu has some other alternative ideas - we'll see where this leads.
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2010, 01:36:03 AM »
Pancaka--it already has a "rainbow square" :chuckle: I think.  Try double-clicking on one of the colors in the color.. swatch thing.  (I have no idea what any of this stuff is called.)  You have to click really fast.

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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2010, 01:38:32 AM »
ah yes. I remember doing that now. I'd say it might be nicer to have the color square up front, but hey, it's fine the way it is, in that respect anyhow.
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2010, 01:45:29 AM »
Oh yeah. Another thing I thought of was maybe revamping the stars system somehow. Also I think it would be cool to give people custom stars for achieving things somehow.

I want eggs for stars since I won the dream sketcher contest =P. Lol JK

Okay seriously that would be awesome. I want that. I don't want to put pressure on anybody to make me some stars though. :P
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2010, 02:32:11 AM »
Alright Pancaka. You got me. I can't resist design shenanigans.  :P

Maybe we can use ALL of these. The book, the vial, the magic hat. Create a series of animations that could play when the front page starts.

Exactly what I was thinking.  I think it was reading rainbow that had a book flipping open and revealing all kinds of crazy stuff. We could combine images from all the major aspects of MM into a flipping dream journal, and eventually fade into the MM Tree.  ...or something like that.


As far as drawing people here and sparking interest, what got me hooked was relating my own dream experiences to others. I wanted to know what happened and why (scientific), and what other people do/have done (social aspect, dream journaling).  Everybody has had a ridiculous dream, a re-occuring nightmare, or some strange sleep experience, and trying to show this in the logo/main page may help bring in newcomers.

I'd be glad to help with any graphics or design, though I have no web building experience at all.
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2010, 04:42:09 AM »
Oh yeah. Another thing I thought of was maybe revamping the stars system somehow. Also I think it would be cool to give people custom stars for achieving things somehow.

I want eggs for stars since I won the dream sketcher contest =P. Lol JK

Okay seriously that would be awesome. I want that. I don't want to put pressure on anybody to make me some stars though. :P
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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2010, 05:17:06 AM »
Exactly what I was thinking.  I think it was reading rainbow that had a book flipping open and revealing all kinds of crazy stuff. We could combine images from all the major aspects of MM into a flipping dream journal, and eventually fade into the MM Tree.  ...or something like that.


As far as drawing people here and sparking interest, what got me hooked was relating my own dream experiences to others. I wanted to know what happened and why (scientific), and what other people do/have done (social aspect, dream journaling).  Everybody has had a ridiculous dream, a re-occuring nightmare, or some strange sleep experience, and trying to show this in the logo/main page may help bring in newcomers.

I'd be glad to help with any graphics or design, though I have no web building experience at all.
Take a look, it's in a book..  :whistle:

(I apologize; I'm WBTB.)  Thank you, maniakal.  That was my case too.  I don't talk to anyone about dreams except here.  This place is like a *part* of the dreamworld, it's so strongly associated with it.  It's amazing.

I'll post here again tomorrow--I'm too tired to think straight right now.  But thank you for showing some interest!

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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2010, 03:02:12 PM »
We have a number of very talented artists here, and some good general ideas about how to tie the pages together.  Besides looking good, our main goal is to get visitors to the front pages interested enough to come in and spend some time in the forum.  And hopefully join.  ;)

Please note that I'm purposely not responding to some individual ideas, because the purpose here is to generate as much discussion as possible amongst members.  Likewise, I don't think pj or the other admins will, since we don't want it to seem like the matter has been at all settled when we say this or that idea is good (or not.)  Everyone's suggestions carry the same weight.

As far as web design goes--it's completely unnecessary to understand the first thing about HTML, CSS, etc. to "design" a site.  Those things are used to implement a site, and I have enough knowledge to attempt to implement the ideas that come out here.  Think of them as the raw materials artists work with--anyone can learn to use them, but only those who have a vision will be able to create something beautiful.  What we need is vision--those with artistic minds to imagine how things should appear.  We can handle the actual implementation.

So, artists:  besides images, there's the question of the layout of the entire page.  It's an entirely visual thing.  Where should the menus appear?  What should the little things like the boxes containing forum stats look like?  Do they have borders, images, etc. around them?  What we need, really, is an image of the entire page.  That's 90% of web design.  (Of course, the design should also be practical and usable.)  This is the hardest and most important part; the rest is just code-related details I can handle.

All this will take some time to do right.  Hopefully enough people will be involved that a sort of consensus is reached.  In the meantime, please don't think your ideas are being ignored because they've not been acted on right away.  They're most appreciated.  Thank you!

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Re: Pulling Together Some Threads for the Next Steps
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2010, 12:35:00 AM »
HOLY SHIT! I HAD EGGS!

...Okay now it's just ***** lol

I was so excited to see eggs! Thanks! Who did it?! THAT WAS AWESOME! =D
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